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post Dec 15 2016, 03:04 PM

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Dec 15 2016, 03:56 PM)
need to be ready if Diegoal is not available, just like Hazard suddenly injured...
Conte need a plan for Batshuayi...many double strikers?
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shouldve bring him on last night when we were playing 352..
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post Dec 15 2016, 03:10 PM

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QUOTE(yokoloco @ Dec 15 2016, 03:10 PM)
after January, we can play Kenedy? brows.gif
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Antonio Conte to assess Kenedy's Chelsea future after return from loan

I think he has a chance to play WB

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Good times to be a Chelsea fan, eh guys.
Some of you are like, carrying over negativity from past season. Downplaying your title chances etc. Don't know if fake humility or what. But here's what. Enjoy your day in the sun, dudes. 10 in a row. Congratulations on that.

And knowing Conte, Chelsea is only going to get stronger as the season progresses. Feller knows grit.
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Dec 15 2016, 03:42 PM)
Good times to be a Chelsea fan, eh guys.
Some of you are like, carrying over negativity from past season. Downplaying your title chances etc. Don't know if fake humility or what. But here's what. Enjoy your day in the sun, dudes. 10 in a row. Congratulations on that.

And knowing Conte, Chelsea is only going to get stronger as the season progresses. Feller knows grit.
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for me i still will not put high hope yet since we still in rebuilding stages but yea i do enjoy the things happen now. what i dont expect is conte doing very well on his first season. and i really hope he will gonna be the one who gonna bring some changes in our academy players.
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QUOTE(lol~ @ Dec 15 2016, 03:46 PM)
for me i still will not put high hope yet since we still in rebuilding stages but yea i do enjoy the things happen now. what i dont expect is conte doing very well on his first season. and i really hope he will gonna be the one who gonna bring some changes in our academy players.
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Did you watch the Euros? See what he did with such a crappy Italy team. Feller is no joke, man. Rebuild rebuild rebuild, you think what? United ah. Every season play fantasy football is it.
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QUOTE(itekderp @ Dec 15 2016, 03:48 PM)
Did you watch the Euros? See what he did with such a crappy Italy team. Feller is no joke, man. Rebuild rebuild rebuild, you think what? United ah. Every season play fantasy football is it.
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i know but like i said we are in rebuilding stages.

players? rise up from slump
formation? totally different

usually this will take 1-2 season but he manage to fit everything in less then half season. that is why i impress and in the same i didnt expect this to happen so fast
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post Dec 15 2016, 04:10 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Dec 15 2016, 03:42 PM)
Good times to be a Chelsea fan, eh guys.
Some of you are like, carrying over negativity from past season. Downplaying your title chances etc. Don't know if fake humility or what. But here's what. Enjoy your day in the sun, dudes. 10 in a row. Congratulations on that.

And knowing Conte, Chelsea is only going to get stronger as the season progresses. Feller knows grit.
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no doubt we are title favorites now, total turn around from early this season up till that Arsenal thrashing.
but the league isn't over yet, anything still can happen like Liverpool under BR season.

on top of that, looking at yday game, seems like those core players are tiring out. Conte hasn't changed much and we are right in December busy schedule. seem to have a bit of goalscoring problems against smaller defensive teams.
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Finishing sucks. Need make sure William and Pedro do more shoot training.they lack something. And for Alonso and Luis? I like how they jus keep trying to score. Good
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Dec 15 2016, 04:53 PM)
Finishing sucks. Need make sure William and Pedro do more shoot training.they lack something. And for Alonso and Luis? I like how they jus keep trying to score. Good
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Willian shoot, but straight to keeper
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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Dec 15 2016, 05:53 PM)
Finishing sucks. Need make sure William and Pedro do more shoot training.they lack something. And for Alonso and Luis? I like how they jus keep trying to score. Good
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Pedro playing on the left side is not his optimum position

Willian probably still rusty not much gametime
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Dec 15 2016, 04:57 PM)
Willian shoot, but straight to keeper
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Either go out of target or directly to keeper..

QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Dec 15 2016, 05:13 PM)
Pedro playing on the left side is not his optimum position

Willian probably still rusty not much gametime
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Pedro need to adjust then. If not later become sub again

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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Dec 15 2016, 10:59 PM)
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He need a couple more of those world class monumental saves for the world to notice hes one of the best
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Got a few burning questions but we need prepare plan B and plan C just in case hmm.gif

Chelsea’s perfect 10 but are they that good and have they any weak points?
Louise Taylor

Chelsea have won 10 straight Premier League games, they are six points clear at the top of the table and their progress towards the title seems inexorable. But are Antonio Conte’s team really that good? Can they answer some critical questions?

1) Is matching up a trend capable of demystifying Conte’s 3-4-3 blueprint?
Premier League managers have a new buzz phrase: “matching up”. It entails mirroring your rival’s formation and explains why David Moyes, a long-time three-at-the-back sceptic, rearranged Sunderland in 3-4-3 configuration for the 1-0 home defeat by Chelsea on Wednesday.

Conte can expect more of the same when his side visit Crystal Palace on Saturday – particularly as Alan Pardew is an enthusiastic convert to “matching up”. Palace switched from 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2 during the 3-3 draw at Hull City in order to create a certain, theoretically opponent-nullifying, symmetry with their hosts.

This tactic made Sunderland a bit more resilient and, conceivably, could have enabled them to snatch a draw but Chelsea are capable of wrong-footing the opposition by seamlessly switching to four at the back when necessary, notably doing so in the second half of their 1-0 win at Middlesbrough and during last week’s 1-0 home victory against West Brom.

“All round the country coaches will be working hard on trying to stop Chelsea’s 3-4-3,” Moyes says. “They play with very high wing-backs, so at times it’s five up front. You have to cope with that when you’ve not got the ball and then work out how you can cause them problems when you do have it. They quite quickly get back into a back five when they need to and they’ve also got two midfield players who sit. But you’ve also got to be aware of their counterattacking ability.”

2) Long term, is three at the back really that great an idea?
Moyes is not so sure but acknowledges few managers are as steeped in the system as the former Italy coach. “They’re a really technically good, well-balanced, team but I don’t think that, in the history of the Premier League, a team have won the game playing three at the back throughout a whole season,” Moyes says. “The difference with Antonio Conte is that he’s played in and coached that system and knows it inside out but Chelsea can also play four at the back effectively.”

3) How important is Conte’s appreciation of the art of catenaccio?
“Chelsea have a toughness about them all over the pitch,” says Moyes, who suspects Conte’s ability not only to bolt the door but to resist attempts to pick the lock could be unrivalled this season. “They’re particularly tough at the back, whereas maybe people wouldn’t see Manchester City being quite like that.”

Such resilience has enabled Chelsea to keep eight clean sheets during 10 straight top-tier wins, conceding only two goals along the way. “It’s amazing,” says Marcos Alonso, the wing-back and, like Victor Moses on the right, a catalytic influence. “But it’s not just about the system. It’s that our team’s working very hard. We’re concentrating very hard.

“Everyone puts everything into defending and we have also to thank Thibaut Courtois in goal; he’s amazing. He’s not participated much in recent games but his two saves at Sunderland gave us three points. He’s one of the best goalkeepers in the world. He’s very important.”

4) Are Chelsea stronger than their rivals in mind and body?
It looks that way. “We’re getting used to winning,” Alonso says. “And we don’t celebrate it like we used to. Instead we just keep working hard. We want to keep the amazing atmosphere in our dressing room that comes with winning but we know we’ve got to be at 100% every game because it’s a tough league. The manager hasn’t changed with success, he hasn’t mellowed, definitely not. He wants the players to keep giving everything and we know that’s very important.”

Significantly Conte also has competition for places in key positions with Cesc Fàbregas putting pressure on Nemanja Matic by shining at Sunderland and proving he can both thrive and be trusted in a 3-4-3 formation after all.

Then there is the fitness aspect. “From the start of the season we’ve worked a lot on physical aspects and we continue to work on them,” Conte says. “In this league it’s important to have intensity and strength as well as good technique. This league’s very tough so, if you’re not strong, it’s difficult to win. I trust in my conditioning work and now I’m seeing what I wanted to see at the start.”

It also helps that Chelsea do not have the mental and physical distraction of European involvement. And they know how to pace themselves and how to slow games right down before returning to high-intensity mode. There is possibly less danger of burning out than with Jürgen Klopp’s full-on Liverpool.

5) What happens if Costa, Moses or Alonso are injured?
With his aggression now controlled, Costa increasingly looks the complete centre-forward and his loss would be a body blow. Nonetheless Chelsea do have a £29m striker on the bench in Michy Batshuayi. He has not done much since joining from Marseille but should be anxious to prove a point. Moreover a revolving front three of Willian, Eden Hazard and Pedro would not necessarily be too shabby.

In one sense losing the width and zip provided by Moses and Alonso could arguably prove more damaging to an otherwise rather narrow team. Ditto David Luiz’s imperious sweeping skills. Even so, if forfeiting Costa would not be quite as bad as removing Alan Shearer from Blackburn’s 1995 title-winning team, it would probably be broadly comparable to Manchester City losing Sergio Agüero or Arsenal Alexis Sánchez.

6) Can they break Arsenal’s 14-game run of wins?
In 2002 Arsenal won 14 straight games. To better that, Chelsea require victories against Crystal Palace (a), Bournemouth (h), Stoke (h), Tottenham (a) and Leicester (a). Easy-peasy or what?

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...-league-10-wins
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Got a few burning questions but we need prepare plan B and plan C just in case hmm.gif

Chelsea’s perfect 10 but are they that good and have they any weak points?
Louise Taylor

Chelsea have won 10 straight Premier League games, they are six points clear at the top of the table and their progress towards the title seems inexorable. But are Antonio Conte’s team really that good? Can they answer some critical questions?

1) Is matching up a trend capable of demystifying Conte’s 3-4-3 blueprint?
Premier League managers have a new buzz phrase: “matching up”. It entails mirroring your rival’s formation and explains why David Moyes, a long-time three-at-the-back sceptic, rearranged Sunderland in 3-4-3 configuration for the 1-0 home defeat by Chelsea on Wednesday.

Conte can expect more of the same when his side visit Crystal Palace on Saturday – particularly as Alan Pardew is an enthusiastic convert to “matching up”. Palace switched from 4-2-3-1 to 3-5-2 during the 3-3 draw at Hull City in order to create a certain, theoretically opponent-nullifying, symmetry with their hosts.

This tactic made Sunderland a bit more resilient and, conceivably, could have enabled them to snatch a draw but Chelsea are capable of wrong-footing the opposition by seamlessly switching to four at the back when necessary, notably doing so in the second half of their 1-0 win at Middlesbrough and during last week’s 1-0 home victory against West Brom.

“All round the country coaches will be working hard on trying to stop Chelsea’s 3-4-3,” Moyes says. “They play with very high wing-backs, so at times it’s five up front. You have to cope with that when you’ve not got the ball and then work out how you can cause them problems when you do have it. They quite quickly get back into a back five when they need to and they’ve also got two midfield players who sit. But you’ve also got to be aware of their counterattacking ability.”

2) Long term, is three at the back really that great an idea?
Moyes is not so sure but acknowledges few managers are as steeped in the system as the former Italy coach. “They’re a really technically good, well-balanced, team but I don’t think that, in the history of the Premier League, a team have won the game playing three at the back throughout a whole season,” Moyes says. “The difference with Antonio Conte is that he’s played in and coached that system and knows it inside out but Chelsea can also play four at the back effectively.”

3) How important is Conte’s appreciation of the art of catenaccio?
“Chelsea have a toughness about them all over the pitch,” says Moyes, who suspects Conte’s ability not only to bolt the door but to resist attempts to pick the lock could be unrivalled this season. “They’re particularly tough at the back, whereas maybe people wouldn’t see Manchester City being quite like that.”

Such resilience has enabled Chelsea to keep eight clean sheets during 10 straight top-tier wins, conceding only two goals along the way. “It’s amazing,” says Marcos Alonso, the wing-back and, like Victor Moses on the right, a catalytic influence. “But it’s not just about the system. It’s that our team’s working very hard. We’re concentrating very hard.

“Everyone puts everything into defending and we have also to thank Thibaut Courtois in goal; he’s amazing. He’s not participated much in recent games but his two saves at Sunderland gave us three points. He’s one of the best goalkeepers in the world. He’s very important.”

4) Are Chelsea stronger than their rivals in mind and body?
It looks that way. “We’re getting used to winning,” Alonso says. “And we don’t celebrate it like we used to. Instead we just keep working hard. We want to keep the amazing atmosphere in our dressing room that comes with winning but we know we’ve got to be at 100% every game because it’s a tough league. The manager hasn’t changed with success, he hasn’t mellowed, definitely not. He wants the players to keep giving everything and we know that’s very important.”

Significantly Conte also has competition for places in key positions with Cesc Fàbregas putting pressure on Nemanja Matic by shining at Sunderland and proving he can both thrive and be trusted in a 3-4-3 formation after all.

Then there is the fitness aspect. “From the start of the season we’ve worked a lot on physical aspects and we continue to work on them,” Conte says. “In this league it’s important to have intensity and strength as well as good technique. This league’s very tough so, if you’re not strong, it’s difficult to win. I trust in my conditioning work and now I’m seeing what I wanted to see at the start.”

It also helps that Chelsea do not have the mental and physical distraction of European involvement. And they know how to pace themselves and how to slow games right down before returning to high-intensity mode. There is possibly less danger of burning out than with Jürgen Klopp’s full-on Liverpool.

5) What happens if Costa, Moses or Alonso are injured?
With his aggression now controlled, Costa increasingly looks the complete centre-forward and his loss would be a body blow. Nonetheless Chelsea do have a £29m striker on the bench in Michy Batshuayi. He has not done much since joining from Marseille but should be anxious to prove a point. Moreover a revolving front three of Willian, Eden Hazard and Pedro would not necessarily be too shabby.

In one sense losing the width and zip provided by Moses and Alonso could arguably prove more damaging to an otherwise rather narrow team. Ditto David Luiz’s imperious sweeping skills. Even so, if forfeiting Costa would not be quite as bad as removing Alan Shearer from Blackburn’s 1995 title-winning team, it would probably be broadly comparable to Manchester City losing Sergio Agüero or Arsenal Alexis Sánchez.

6) Can they break Arsenal’s 14-game run of wins?
In 2002 Arsenal won 14 straight games. To better that, Chelsea require victories against Crystal Palace (a), Bournemouth (h), Stoke (h), Tottenham (a) and Leicester (a). Easy-peasy or what?

Source: https://www.theguardian.com/football/blog/2...-league-10-wins
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for now..3-4-3 seems to be working
if required, can try 3-5-2 formation
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QUOTE(zoidx_chung @ Dec 15 2016, 12:56 PM)
I think Oscar and Terry will not leave us at least this Jan window, all players now can smell the cup within reach.
After the season ended, then we see how it going
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QUOTE(Iceman74 @ Dec 16 2016, 10:31 AM)
I think Oscar and Terry will not leave us at least this Jan window, all players now can smell the cup within reach.
After the season ended, then we see how it going
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But we need oscar to gibedemuny to chelsea
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