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ozak
post Nov 28 2016, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(colinchoo @ Nov 28 2016, 06:42 PM)
Thanks. Just want to ask if this is something that is normally done, or something that shouldn't be done? smile.gif  (assuming i take all precautions of course to ensure the fit is good).

Reason why I am thinking of doing this is because I am looking into installing a Broadlink TC2 smart switch. Currently it doesn't work with my 7.5w LED lights due to low wattage (doesn't fully turn off, flickering etc).  Would I be correct to think if i connect 4 of the lights into the same gang, it would then be a total wattage of 30W?
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It is probably cause by no neutral wire on the smart switch?
ozak
post Nov 29 2016, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Nov 29 2016, 01:40 PM)
Hijack topic a bit. Won't it cause heating?
My switch for heaters have a bit too much wires inside the box. So I lazy cut and just stuff everything in. What I notice is it heats up from time to time. Major problem? It won't heat if switched off right.
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Your heater wire carried higher Ampere compare light.

That cause the wire heat up.

Cut short the wire to reduce it. But it still heat up.

Unless you change the wire to bigger gauge.
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post Nov 29 2016, 03:23 PM

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QUOTE(itekderp @ Nov 29 2016, 03:07 PM)
Thanks dude, not so good at electrical.
So what you mean is, even if I cut it short it'll still be hot. Except now is hotter because I stuff it all inside the box?
Any risk of fire? I can feel the switch is warm to touch, but not hot.
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It is not much different because the wire is really not that long. Cut it short is to make it more proper and have some space for the hot air out. (not much also)

You won't get risk of fire if

1) the time using is short.
2) The heater KW doesn't exit the max wire ampere carry. Maybe around 20A. or 4.8kw.
3) the connection not loose and tight secure. switch and heater side.

Get a better higher Amp switch.
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post Nov 29 2016, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(Richard @ Nov 29 2016, 04:41 PM)
Its not the cable length that's the problem..

The higher the current carrying capacity the more the contact area and contact pressure becomes critical..

For round conductors like wires carrying heavy current you MUST use terminal lugs which are properly suited flat and make capacity for the application..

Take a thermal imaging device and point it at the load..

The heat is always at the contact points where the contact area and pressure is the least..

Your item 3 is correct and primary.. Emphasize it more..
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I know.

That's why I told him, not much different. But trim down the wire in a tight space will have the wire properly done and some air space. A tight space behind the socket will bend the wire 90degree at the screw contact wire side. With the thick wire usually use in the wall, the wire have intend to brick at the end insulation expose wire side.

You know all this consumer wall socket even a 20A socket don't have a cable lug type of terminal. So you only can tightly screw the wire to get a secure contact.

I usually will strip the insulation longer, bend the wire to equal length and insert into the hole. That increase the wire contact amount in the hole. It also help for the smaller wire gauge that the screw have difficult to lock it.

I use a lot of cable lug in industry. If the consumer socket, plug do have, definitely I will advise them to use it.


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post Nov 30 2016, 11:49 AM

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QUOTE(DecaPix @ Nov 30 2016, 11:32 AM)
i tot wires making a small loop carrying high current will act like a heater element?
better not to loop the wire inside the switch box. make a clean connection to reduce the induced current
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The actual name is coiling.

Specially extension cord that is wind type. Usually they won't allow over 1000w on this extension cord. Otherwise will heat up in the case.

I usually will pull the whole wire out even in short distance.

Another is the vacuum cleaner. The manual inside will normally advise you to pull the wire out complete and not left some coiling inside.


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post Dec 1 2016, 12:43 PM

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QUOTE(colinchoo @ Dec 1 2016, 11:57 AM)
Ok thanks. Now i need to figure out how to connect all four light wires safely into the 1 gang switch....
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Twitch the 4 wire together and stuck it inside the hole.

 

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