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post Feb 12 2007, 02:51 PM, updated 19y ago

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what do you guys think abt this Hybrid Media Cameras? can record nice HD video. and can shoot like a digital camera as well ....

any Hybrid Media Cameras owners here? can share?
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post Feb 12 2007, 04:08 PM

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good video, crappy IQ.
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post Feb 12 2007, 11:49 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ Feb 12 2007, 04:08 PM)
good video, crappy IQ.
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come on now - at least u shud give a link of a review or something to back your statement or maybe u have tried one??

btw is this camera actually available here - last month i was in KL - i cannot find a single camera shop carry the latest xacti video cam, i think now up to C6 variants, n a few camera shops still carry a C2??


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post Feb 13 2007, 07:56 AM

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i got most of the info from users feedback in the steve forum
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_forum.php?id=27
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post Feb 13 2007, 11:25 AM

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i thought latest is SANYO Xacti HD1a now. and end of the match 2007 will come out SANYO Xacti HD2 which got 7.1 MegaPixel. HD1 only got 5.0MegaPixel~ smile.gif
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post Feb 13 2007, 11:36 AM

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MP isnt the main point, people are looking for HD2 becoz it the OIS.
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post Feb 17 2007, 12:56 PM

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where to buy, have never seen anyshop carry them?
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xacti is sold cheap at lelong.com.my now....

poison ! poison !

i'm planning to get the sports model.
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post May 26 2007, 06:49 PM

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post May 26 2007, 06:54 PM

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post May 26 2007, 07:41 PM

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 26 2007, 06:54 PM)
where cheap? rm1000 not cheap la, i bought new lumix tz1, x10 zoom only rm745.
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i think the main purpose for ppl to get this is for video shooting, actually i'm quite interested too by looking at its ability to record an hour 640x480 30fps quality movie with 1GB SD, plus the size is so portable for u to bring along. btw, here is the its successor CG65's review (using better H.264 AAC video compression which is 25% smaller size as compare to CG6 with MPEG4 AVC)
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 26 2007, 07:41 PM)
i think the main purpose for ppl to get this is for video shooting, actually i'm quite interested too by looking at its ability to record an hour 640x480 30fps quality movie with 1GB SD, plus the size is so portable for u to bring along.  btw, here is the its successor CG65's review (using better H.264 AAC video compression which is 25% smaller size as compare to CG6 with MPEG4 AVC)
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i bought tz1 mainly for video.
damn i check cd65 video, the quality is so nice, can auto focus, but cost rm450 more. thanks for the link. i think i should get this instead.
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post May 26 2007, 10:18 PM

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Canon TX-1, 7.1 MP, 10x optical zoom, HD 16:9 video, Stainless Steel casing, not cheap lol

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QUOTE(itanium @ May 26 2007, 10:18 PM)
Canon TX-1, 7.1 MP, 10x optical zoom, HD 16:9 video, Stainless Steel casing, not cheap lol
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the RSP is rm1,799, the drawback is it records movie in MJPEG format, so only ~15min recording time with 2GB SD which seems to me it defeats the purpose as a camorder sweat.gif

btw, sanyo's reviews are quite good:
Xacti CG6
Xacti HD1a
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the Canon was not meant to be a dedicated camcoder, its called a hybrid.
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QUOTE(itanium @ May 26 2007, 11:31 PM)
the Canon was not meant to be a dedicated camcoder, its called a hybrid.
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actually Xacti series is a hybrid too with 6MP effective pixel count, it is just that canon is not willing to pay more on the video compression (frm what i read-lar).

btw, is Panasonic SDR-S10 in our market yet?
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post May 27 2007, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 27 2007, 05:49 AM)
actually Xacti series is a hybrid too with 6MP effective pixel count, it is just that canon is not willing to pay more on the video compression (frm what i read-lar).

btw, is Panasonic SDR-S10 in our market yet?
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SDR-S10 doesnt have OIS?? i google no indication that it has OIS, if no OIS then its useless, the best video quality is crap if its shaky.

i just realized that CG65 also doesnt have OIS, the video is very clear, but shaky, really not worth the price.

tz1 is still the best value for money.


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QUOTE(itanium @ May 26 2007, 10:18 PM)
Canon TX-1, 7.1 MP, 10x optical zoom, HD 16:9 video, Stainless Steel casing, not cheap lol
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tx1, video quality is top-notch in good daylight, but very bad in indoor, worst than average camera.

beside the big filesize, grainy video in not-so-low light is another prob, crazy price tag too.

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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 27 2007, 10:53 AM)
SDR-S10 doesnt have OIS?? i google no indication that it has OIS, if no OIS then its useless, the best video quality is crap if its shaky.

i just realized that CG65 also doesnt have OIS, the video is very clear, but shaky, really not worth the price.

tz1 is still the best value for money.


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tx1, video quality is top-notch in good daylight, but very bad in indoor, worst than average camera.

beside the big filesize, grainy video in not-so-low light is another prob, crazy price tag too.
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LOL you said it all in your post, no more comments rclxms.gif
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plan to get CG65 for casual use, let me be the guinea pig sweat.gif

CG65 Review#1 (with video clip samples)
CG65 Review#2 (in chinese)
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post May 27 2007, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 27 2007, 12:55 PM)
plan to get CG65 for casual use, let me be the guinea pig sweat.gif

CG65 Review#1 (with video clip samples)
CG65 Review#2 (in chinese)
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i already dl all the samples by Caelum last nite when you posted the link to the reviews.

seriously, OIS is a must-have feature in video, especially at x10 zoom, for still pic can still do without OIS, but not video.

after i use lumix fx01 to take video, i really like the OIS, so big diff, no matter how i shake the camera, the video is very stable, unlike video without OIS,
see this sample: Cat, indoor TV-SHQ

it is shaking quite badly, make me dizzy, you dont get this kind of shake at all with OIS.

plus the price is not cheap, rm1200, if it has OIS CG65 is perfect, x10zoom, stereo.
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actually it draws my attention with its small size, long recording hr, decent video quality and acceptable price (if compare with TX1). btw, it has digital stabilizer (of course can't compete with ois), here is the sample clips with stabilizer on frm its predecessor C6

just think of getting one so that i can bring it along, take out frm my pocket and start shooting for any happening... smile.gif of course for main event like wedding dinner or birthday party i will still stick to my antique mini-dv camcorder.
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if you have super steady hands, and hold very steady with both hands while filming, it is ok, for me i dont like hold steady, and i like filming with 1 hand, free style.

tz1 is as big as cd65, same size, rm450 cheaper, has OIS, downside is only last 22 mins video and mono sound.
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 27 2007, 01:40 PM)
if you have super steady hands, and hold very steady with both hands while filming, it is ok, for me i dont like hold steady, and i like filming with 1 hand, free style.

tz1 is as big as cd65, same size, rm450 cheaper, has OIS, downside is only last 22 mins video and mono sound.
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i got canon A620 which can shoots a pretty decent video too, just that it is too bulky to fit in my pocket and only 17min video recording with 2GB SD. furthermore, it can't zoom in/out during recording
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 27 2007, 02:08 PM)
you should try 4 gb card first with a620, someone said it worked:
http://forums.dpreview.com/forums/readflat...06&changemode=1

i also dislike size like canon A620, too big.

canon A620 =  105 x 66 x 49 mm = 339,570cc.
TZ1 =  112 x 58.1 x 40.2 mm = 261,589cc.
CG65 = 68.0 x 100.0 x 35.0mm = 238,000cc.
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thks for the info, saw the thread b4 actually, the answer is not definite, that's why i avoid to take risk for any potential incompatibility issue, will rather get 2x2GB. yesterday went to hsl & courts, unfortunately they dun have the cg65, as quite bz this few days, will search around again when i'm free icon_rolleyes.gif
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 27 2007, 01:40 PM)
if you have super steady hands, and hold very steady with both hands while filming, it is ok, for me i dont like hold steady, and i like filming with 1 hand, free style.

tz1 is as big as cd65, same size, rm450 cheaper, has OIS, downside is only last 22 mins video and mono sound.
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hi, just wan to ask is the tz1 can zoom in and out while doing video recording ???
tq.
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QUOTE(vex @ May 28 2007, 03:54 PM)
hi, just wan to ask is the tz1 can zoom in and out while doing video recording ???
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yes can, its the only lumix that can zoom during filming.
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 28 2007, 04:01 PM)
yes can, its the only lumix that can zoom during filming.
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it is optical zoom or digital zoom wow ????
not motorize sound during the zoom meh ?? if it is optical zoom.

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QUOTE(vex @ May 28 2007, 04:52 PM)
it is optical zoom or digital zoom wow ????
not motorize sound during the zoom meh ?? if it is optical zoom.
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optical. no sound, dont hear anythng.
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 28 2007, 04:01 PM)
yes can, its the only lumix that can zoom during filming.
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the feature is great, hope the its successor would use MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 for video compression. Panasonic & Sony AVCHD is using this format too.

btw, casio new cameras EX-V7 & EX-Z1200 are also using h.264 video codec, both provides optical zooming during filming too.
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 29 2007, 08:40 PM)
the feature is great, hope the its successor would use MPEG-4 AVC/H.264 for video compression.  Panasonic & Sony AVCHD is using this format too.

btw, casio new cameras EX-V7 & EX-Z1200 are also using h.264 video codec, both provides optical zooming during filming too.
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yes thats the problem, right now tz1 with .mov format 2gb can last only 22mins, it is quite short but enuf for me, i rarely shoot anything over 15mins, it would be great if pany release a new firmware that enable tz1 support sdhc.

so far i find only cg65's h.264 format has the best video clarity, its as clear as TX1 HD, very impressive, EX-V7 h.264 not really that good, mpeg4 is just so-so, my tz1 .mov is clearer than mpeg4.
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many samples of video clips frm various dc can be found at the link below:
http://www.anjoyplanet.com/video/sample.html
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already change to .flv, so cant really see the quality.
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QUOTE(greyPJ @ May 31 2007, 07:08 PM)
already change to .flv, so cant really see the quality.
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yeah, what a pity but certain clips are still in original format.
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xacti 7.1 mp selling RM1300 from singapore, price ok ?
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ May 31 2007, 12:05 PM)
many samples of video clips frm various dc can be found at the link below:
http://www.anjoyplanet.com/video/sample.html
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HELLO
I'm the owner of this great special CA65 page ;-)))

I HAVE UPDATE and dowloaded ORIGINAL SAMPLE with no compression ( READ BY QUICKTIME )
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Enjoy xacti life !!!
http://www.anjoyplanet.com/video/SANYO_XACTI_CA65.html


Added on August 20, 2007, 12:38 am
QUOTE(greyPJ @ Feb 13 2007, 12:56 AM)
i got most of the info from users feedback in the steve forum
http://www.stevesforums.com/forums/view_forum.php?id=27
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I'm also very interested by all the XACTI models and I made a SPECIAL PAGE
with a lot infos and VIDEO SAMPLE ;-)))
WELCOME !!! rclxms.gif
http://www.anjoyplanet.com/video/sample.html

my FINAL CHOICE is definitly FOR THE XACTI CA65 (or E1) wub.gif thumbup.gif wub.gif
WHO IS WATERPROOF and with the fantasctic codec H.264 ;-)))
more details and SAMPLE HERE :
http://www.anjoyplanet.com/video/SANYO_XACTI_CA65.html





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@anjoyplanet, u r welcome to lowyat.net, what a nice video compilation thumbup.gif , i dun see any ca65 in m'siayet, how much is it? btw, i got myself a cg65 and i really enjoy it flex.gif
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QUOTE(sotong168 @ Aug 20 2007, 02:09 AM)
@anjoyplanet, u r welcome to lowyat.net, what a nice video compilation thumbup.gif , i dun see any ca65 in m'siayet, how much is it?  btw, i got myself a cg65 and i really enjoy it flex.gif
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Oh...you manage to get CG65? I was looking for it also. Where you get it from?
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QUOTE(ericthb2 @ Aug 20 2007, 11:18 PM)
Oh...you manage to get CG65? I was looking for it also. Where you get it from?
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my place dun cater for sanyo dc, so i get it frm lelong rm1.2k incl. postage
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Hi,
I just read about Sanyo producing underwater camera/videocamera....does anyone know how's the quality? And I think it's not yet available in Malaysia coz Sanyo Malaysia's website has no info about it.
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QUOTE(sherrina @ Oct 10 2007, 01:49 AM)
Hi,
I just read about Sanyo producing underwater camera/videocamera....does anyone know how's the quality? And I think it's not yet available in Malaysia coz Sanyo Malaysia's website has no info about it.
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for hands-on experience, u can always consult ppl over here, i saw it is selling in lelong @ rm1.3k mth ago

 

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