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post Feb 18 2017, 03:29 PM

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https://www.linkedin.com/pulse/elon-musk-sa..._spock-articles

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Why we need to become cyborgs to master AI

We're living in a simulation or we have to merge with the machine? According to Elon Musk, actually both are correct.

You see, humanity has a bandwidth dilemma, to keep up with the evolution of Artificial Intelligence, we might have to alter our neural interface with digital.

To use Musk's own version of this:

Over time I think we will probably see a closer merger of biological intelligence and digital intelligence. (insert his great accent)

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Cyborgs are Not Terminators, They are Our Descendants

lon Musk is a good spokesperson for transhumanism at this point, a very rational voice for Silicon Valley's agenda and vision. He's also a passionate advocate of making our species inter-planetary and colonizing Mars.

That we're likely destined to be cyborgs, is not a bad thing. There's quite a few TedTalks even about how we're already cyborgs, we are just a bit in denial of the fact.

If humans can communicate at 10 bits per second (such as typing), computers communicate at a trillion bits per second.

hat follows in a few years or a few decades, is an artificial intelligence technology that continues to improve, where at some near point in the history of our species, humans will become irrelevant. It's an evolutionary bottleneck. So how can we overcome this limitation?

Elon Musk and many others believe, the neural interface is the biggest challenge (biggest asset) to human beings achieving a kind of super intelligence and perhaps merging with AI to discover a new evolutionary path, in order to survive.

In a sense, human beings are Tesla (in the Nikola Tesla sense) machines waiting to happen, ready to incarnate into the cloud and become immortal, if the exponential pundits are to be believed.

GenZ and the Alpha cohorts may be the first human beings to be able to "live forever" in some digital sense, a fitting end for many futurists.

It's 2017, and not even politics is as hot on the public agenda of debate, as Artificial Intelligence.

We must become cyborgs to interface with Artificial Intelligence.

Engineering Human Evolution

There's no doubt that humans need to merge with machines, but it doesn't have to feel alien.

Do people give it a second thought when they need (eye) glasses? Or how about when they need a pace maker? What about a 3D-printed organ?

The fact is, we're at the dawn of an era of BioTechnology, where we'll become pioneers of self-modification.

We may well end up being more socialized by artificial intelligence, than we will by our own peers, and we'll soon live at a moment in history where going to Mars will actually become a reality.

Does it matter if the universe is a kind of simulation anyways? We'll be directly modifying our genes and it's AI that will help us do this in a safe, ethical and the most advantageous way.

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Nobody takes the bandwidth dilemma seriously (in 2017), we talk about machine learning, deep learning and an Artificial general intelligence manifesting itself in the near future, but we don't talk about what will happen to us?

The hybrid human-AI interface. When in fact, that's the juicy part.

Sure there will be robots. There will also be folk who are willing to give up some of their humanity to have meta-cognition and access to processing speeds, with neural implants and enhancements that give them a new kind of life.

Following DARPA, Google's pioneering work in AI, and the evolution of IBM's Watson and D-wave, and you get a sense of how the future is nearer than you think. Even TedTalks give you a glimpse as to where we are heading.

We have to engineer the kind of future that gives humanity the best chance of surviving, not just for the next 200 years, but the next 20,000 years. (my quote, not Elon)

So how do we develop a direct high-bandwidth connection with IoT, machines and supercomputers where we walk the fine balance of not endangering our own humanity, while not lagging behind and risking irrelevance and obsolescence so utterly as to be left completely behind the planet's evolution.

This is coming, it's the post-automation and trans-exponential age.



When the singularity comes, it won't just feel "different", it will evolve so quickly that we're unlikely to be able to understand what it's doing or thinking, since, it overtakes the sum total of collective intelligence likely in a very short period of time.

The Bandwidth Dilemma

I once had a CEO who admitted he was the bottleneck to the marketing team. He couldn't decide what to do, so we were all fired. We all have bottlenecks to understanding the universe from multiple frames of reference. Call it what you will, Maya or Ego or the limitations of human cognition.

Our brain is the bottleneck to our access to information in the cloud, unable to use efficiently the resources now at our disposal in the digital age.



Let's not simply obsess about robots taking our jobs, let's actually also think about how humanity will work along side AI, and how we can optimize with the evolution of AI to create a meta-species. How well we are able to accomplish this, might impact our descendants directly.

The Future of the Web is the Matrix

Would you want a more direct access of bandwith output in how you relate to life digitally? Not to get all Black Mirror on you, but what would you be willing to give up?

Your privacy? Your individuality? Your brain alterted by interfaces and implants? Would you want telepathy with your loved ones? What if you could have virtual telepathy with the smartest Artificial intelligences on Earth in real-time, all the time?

Let's not just live in a static digital world, of fake news and mobile notifications, let's get ready to enter a cloud where the intelligence can and will surpass our own.

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QUOTE(PakBelalang2014 @ Feb 18 2017, 07:14 PM)
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You can join Humanity+. The Humanity+ is a nonprofit, democratic membership organization that works to promote discussion of possibilities for the radical improvement of human capacities using technology, as well as of the ethical issues and risks involved in technological developments. It was founded in 1998 as an umbrella organization to publicize transhumanist ideas and to seek academic acceptance of transhumanism as a philosophical and cultural movement. Humanity+ organizes conferences, publishes H+ Magazine, (did published an academic journal), issues press statements, and coordinates student campus chapters and local transhumanist groups around the world. To find out about current projects and upcoming events, and to become a member, please visit the Humanity+ website.

Humanity+ has been growing since its inception and especially rapidly in the last couple of years, but the task before us is both momentous and mountainous. Your help is needed. There are myriad ways to contribute – organizing or participating in a local discussion group, writing articles or letters to the editor, making a financial contribution, spreading the word to friends and acquaintances, volunteering your skills, translating key documents into other languages, linking to Humantiy+ from your website, attending conferences and sharing your ideas, directing your research or creative activity towards transhumanist themes, to name but a few.

If you want to study transhumanist ideas in more detail, you can find some syllabi and reading lists on the website to get you started. If you want to exchange ideas with others, or just listen in to ongoing conversations, you may want to join one of the mailing lists and newsgroups maintained by Humanity+.

The coming technological transitions may be the most important challenge that humanity will ever face. The entire future of intelligent life on Earth may depend on how we handle it. If we do the right things, a wonderful posthuman future with limitless opportunities for growth and flourishing may lie ahead. If we handle it badly, intelligent life might go extinct. Don’t you want to take part and attempt to make a difference for the better?

References: - Humanity+. http://humanityplus.org. (From this site, links to local groups and affiliated organizations can also be found.)
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http://mobile.reuters.com/article/idUSKBN15V2KM

European parliament calls for robot law, rejects robot tax

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European lawmakers called on Thursday for EU-wide legislation to regulate the rise of robots, including an ethical framework for their development and deployment and the establishment of liability for the actions of robots including self-driving cars.

But they rejected a proposal to impose a so-called robot tax on owners to fund support for or retraining of workers put out of a job by robots.

The resolution is a recommendation to the bloc's executive, the European Commission, which the Commission is not obliged to follow but must give reasons if it chooses not to.

"The EU needs to take the lead on setting these standards, so as not to be forced to follow those set by third countries," the parliament said in a statement.

The decision to reject the robot tax was hailed by the robotics industry, which says it would stunt innovation.

"The IFR believes that the idea to introduce a robot tax would have had a very negative impact on competitiveness and employment," said the Frankfurt-based International Federation of Robotics.

The IFR and others argue that automation and the use of robots create new jobs by increasing productivity, and point to a correlation between robot density and employment in advanced industrial nations, for example in the German car industry.

Global shipments of industrial robots rose 15 percent in 2015, according to the latest statistics from the IFR, and were worth a total of about $46 billion. Demand for service robots for medical, domestic and personal use is also on the rise.

The parliamentary resolution on the amended report was passed by 396 votes to 123, with 85 abstentions.

The report's author, MEP Mady Delvaux, said she was disappointed that lawmakers "refused to take account of possible negative consequences on the job market".

"They rejected an open-minded and forward-looking debate and thus disregarded the concerns of our citizens," she said.

(Reporting by Georgina Prodhan; Editing by Alison Williams)

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post Feb 21 2017, 02:38 AM

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Thought this may be a good transhumanist music piece:


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https://www.theatlantic.com/video/index/515...he-way-we-live/

Video available in the link.

How Would Immortality Change the Way We Live?

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Terror management theory, as Atlantic writer Olga Khazan explains in this video, posits that whenever you remind someone of dying, they try to manage their fear by regaining a sense of control. What would the benefits be to living forever, and consequently, not fearing death? Would it make us happier, or more generous? In Silicon Valley, some of the country’s wealthiest and brightest minds are pooling their resources behind technologies that promise to extend life. “Our purpose now, in the 21st century, is to become god-like and overcome death,” says Zoltan Istvan, a transhumanist and former presidential candidate. This episode of “That Feeling When” explores the growing number of people who have already begun preparing for a life without death.

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As an atheist, I find the concept of "Christian Transhumanism" to be rather amusing and refreshing.


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^ They're the victims of society. I feel pity for them. Christian transhumanism is an oxymoron.

Waiting for someone to self-proclaimed that he's a Hindu transhumanist. LOL doh.gif

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QUOTE(Meis @ Mar 4 2017, 12:21 PM)
^ They're the victims of society. I feel pity for them. Christian transhumanism is an oxymoron.

Waiting for someone to self-proclaimed that he's a Hindu transhumanist. LOL  doh.gif
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Well, even the mainstream Christianity won't accept them, so in a way they're kinda on their own.

But hey, if they do want to help transhumanism grow, I don't think I mind any help from them.
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^ They're unwelcome. I will not accept religious folks as part of the transhuman movement.
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That's a news to me. I didn't know the space exploration industry is so "corrupted". But then again, all corps are profit-driven.



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Btw, you do have any nice youtube channel regarding transhumanism? There used to be one with regular updates but got deleted. What a shame.

I desperately need one...

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DNA Dreams (2012)
Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI)
http://futuristablog.com/195/
http://tinyurl.com/hhjor3x
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QUOTE(Meis @ Mar 4 2017, 02:10 PM)
^ They're unwelcome. I will not accept religious folks as part of the transhuman movement.
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Yeah, I understand. I would probably accept the transhumanism part of them, but never the religious parts. So, hurray to super longevity, good, but hurray of longevity because of Jesus, ahem, definitely a no no.

QUOTE(Meis @ Mar 4 2017, 02:10 PM)
That's a news to me. I didn't know the space exploration industry is so "corrupted". But then again, all corps are profit-driven.


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Will watch this later. Parking first.

QUOTE(Meis @ Mar 4 2017, 03:12 PM)
Btw, you do have any nice youtube channel regarding transhumanism? There used to be one with regular updates but got deleted. What a shame.
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I usually follow the Futurism and Humanity+ channel, and sometimes I follow stuff from the transhumanism topics from reddit and the ones from facebook groups as well.

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These are what I subscribed to...

https://www.reddit.com/r/transhumanism/

https://www.facebook.com/TranscendentMan/
https://www.facebook.com/FHIOxford/
https://www.facebook.com/singularityu/
https://www.facebook.com/singularityhub/
https://www.facebook.com/transhumanismo/ (inactive)
https://www.facebook.com/Transhumanists/ (inactive)

https://twitter.com/yingym7/lists/tech
https://twitter.com/yingym7/lists/transhumanism
https://twitter.com/hsu_steve [this is the guy from Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI), the documentary that I posted above]
https://twitter.com/peterxing
https://twitter.com/MissTechSpec
https://twitter.com/isaac
https://twitter.com/BaiduResearch
https://twitter.com/GreatDismal (Cyberpunk fans should've known this legendary writer)
https://twitter.com/KurzweilAINews

No youtube =\

Please list them in the first post for references.
And also, "Blade Runner" (movie).

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (book) was the work that influenced Blade Runner... which influenced Ghost in the Shell... which influenced Matrix. Matrix also influenced by HK's fighting/action movies. But I don't think "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" belong to this thread here. But nonetheless, I just leave it here in case you guys want to check it out.

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QUOTE(Meis @ Mar 4 2017, 05:02 PM)
These are what I subscribed to...

https://www.reddit.com/r/transhumanism/

https://www.facebook.com/TranscendentMan/
https://www.facebook.com/FHIOxford/
https://www.facebook.com/singularityu/
https://www.facebook.com/singularityhub/
https://www.facebook.com/transhumanismo/ (inactive)
https://www.facebook.com/Transhumanists/ (inactive)

https://twitter.com/yingym7/lists/tech
https://twitter.com/yingym7/lists/transhumanism
https://twitter.com/hsu_steve [this is the guy from Beijing Genomics Institute (BGI), the documentary that I posted above]
https://twitter.com/peterxing
https://twitter.com/MissTechSpec
https://twitter.com/isaac
https://twitter.com/BaiduResearch
https://twitter.com/GreatDismal (Cyberpunk fans should've known this legendary writer)
https://twitter.com/KurzweilAINews

No youtube =\

Please list them in the first post for references.
And also, "Blade Runner" (movie).

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" (book) was the work that influenced Blade Runner... which influenced Ghost in the Shell... which influenced Matrix. Matrix also influenced by HK's fighting/action movies. But I don't think "Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep" belong to this thread here. But nonetheless, I just leave it here in case you guys want to check it out.
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Thanks for the recommendations. I'll get to it soon enough.

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I have forgotten on this:

https://www.facebook.com/groups/techsingularity/

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