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post May 6 2019, 09:31 AM

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Hello peeps,

Im looking for a 4TB external hdd, was looking at WD external my passport, is this good in terms of reliability, I'm using it to store 4K movies only,

Any other recommendations?

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post May 19 2019, 12:10 AM

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Sometimes I feel those external hard disk from wd or sg have some weird pricing.

Same old question on how they market the price


Can someone tell me why does an external WD/Sgate hard disk 2TB cost RM240-270 while one Sata 2.5 hard disk 2TB cost RM350-370 ?
The sata 2.5 internal hard disk does not have cover , same rpm speed and even need to spend more on a connector.

Why price is much cheaper on build in external hard disk ? if you said build quality on external hard disk is low.How low will it be until a price of RM100-150 less compare to normal sata 2.5 2TB ?

I member before all USB3 solder port , all are using normal sata interface with connector.Does a sata firmware board/connector worth an extra rm150 ?

Pricing problem ?
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post May 19 2019, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ May 19 2019, 12:10 AM)
Sometimes I feel those external hard disk from wd or sg have some weird pricing.

Same old question on how they market the price
Can someone tell me why does an external WD/Sgate hard disk 2TB cost RM240-270 while one Sata 2.5 hard disk 2TB cost RM350-370 ?
The sata 2.5 internal hard disk does not have cover , same rpm speed and even need to spend more on a connector.

Why price is much cheaper on build in external hard disk ? if you said build quality on external hard disk is low.How low will it be until a price of RM100-150 less compare to normal sata 2.5 2TB ?

I member before all USB3 solder port , all are using normal sata interface with connector.Does a sata firmware board/connector worth an extra rm150 ?

Pricing problem ?
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2TB here is a bit more expensive, but just a few more dollar.
I never opened external HDD before so i can't comment much lol. My Toshiba 2TB and WD element 1TB (PS4 ext drive) still alive after half of the decades, WD Blue and Toshiba 2.5'' drive are much more durable than i though.
I never unplug them so their life expectancy is prolonged.-

Bigger drive probably can put more low density platter, rather than 1 high density platter.
High density platter might have lower yield thus increase cost, just like cpu, and hi res monitor (>1440p) which cost lot more than FHD monitor. but when yield improved the cost will decrease.

But those are just my assumption, I don't work in IT industry, but loosely connected sweat.gif
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post May 22 2019, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 19 2019, 12:58 PM)
2TB here is a bit more expensive, but just a few more dollar.
I never opened external HDD before so i can't comment much lol. My Toshiba 2TB and WD element 1TB (PS4 ext drive) still alive after half of the decades, WD Blue and Toshiba 2.5'' drive are much more durable than i though.
I never unplug them so their life expectancy is prolonged.-

Bigger drive probably can put more low density platter, rather than 1 high density platter.
High density platter might have lower yield thus increase cost, just like cpu, and hi res monitor (>1440p) which cost lot more than  FHD monitor. but when yield improved the cost will decrease.

But those are just my assumption, I don't work in IT industry, but loosely connected sweat.gif
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What I mean the range of price.

2.5 inch sata sgate 2TB = RM350
2.5 inch usb3 sgate/WD passport/element/backup plus = RM250-270 range.

Why does sata cost RM100 extra more ? an external drive plus casing and board for usb3 is even cheaper than sata ?
Logically , more component = higher price.

Maybe your HD depends on usage and manufacturer date which last long.As state , if a usb3 external HD not able to detect , how to back up ?
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post May 22 2019, 08:00 AM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ May 22 2019, 01:41 AM)
What I mean the range of price.

2.5 inch sata sgate 2TB = RM350
2.5 inch usb3 sgate/WD passport/element/backup plus  = RM250-270 range.

Why does sata cost RM100 extra more ? an external drive plus casing and board for usb3 is even cheaper than sata ?
Logically , more component = higher price.

Maybe your HD depends on usage and manufacturer date which last long.As state , if a usb3 external HD not able to detect , how to back up ?
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I never bought an Seagate hdd before so i can't comment on this,
Normally if you back up imports ant files, you would make multiple copies of it, not just in to a super fragile external hdd, it's no different from writing important note then put it at kitchen.
Back up To a cloud, to a raid 1 hdd, nas, ect,
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post May 24 2019, 11:29 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ May 22 2019, 08:00 AM)
I never bought an Seagate hdd before so i can't comment on this,
Normally if you back up imports ant files, you would make multiple copies of it, not just in to a super fragile external hdd, it's no different from writing important note then put it at kitchen.
Back up To a cloud, to a raid 1 hdd, nas, ect,
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I know most of what you meant but I am doubt and wanted some expert here to justify the reason behind of high price on sata HD vs external hard disk + USB3 PCB casing and the price range different is RM150.
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post May 24 2019, 11:47 PM

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QUOTE(Maxieos @ May 24 2019, 11:29 PM)
I know most of what you meant but I am doubt and wanted some expert here to justify the reason behind of high price on sata HD vs external hard disk + USB3 PCB casing and  the price range different is RM150.
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It could be internal HDD use better quality component, or bigger RAM.
Or the external hdd is old stock, there are various reason sweat.gif sweat.gif
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post May 25 2019, 02:27 PM

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learn the hardway on optane + hdd

i use optane on my torrent drives since alot of private torrent sites i download from rars the files into small chunk. only way to get close to 800mbps.

so what did i learn.
1. anytime you update your mobo bios ... better unoptane it in windows.
optane+hdd runs in bios raid mode.

2.if u want to use your mobo secure erase an ssd/nvme you have to switch to ahci. again unoptane it in windows first.

3. dont ever unoptane it in bios

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post Jun 2 2019, 03:50 AM

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I am so tempted to consolidate my hdd. Is it ok to buy the Seagate 10TB Backup Plus Desktop Hub STEL10000400, or buy 2x 4TB WD Passport??

I know the passport would be portable and good convenient to carry around, but the 10TB would be so convenient as a all in 1 storage
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post Jun 2 2019, 01:22 PM

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wd red 4tb nas how much cheapest o-O: ?
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post Jun 2 2019, 02:57 PM

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guys any hdd recommend ?
if i wan put 24 x 7 on my own nas

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post Jun 17 2019, 02:09 PM

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QUOTE(silrave @ Jun 2 2019, 02:57 PM)
guys any hdd recommend ?
if i wan put 24 x 7 on my own nas
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if want 7200rpm, can try Toshiba N300. it is the only few NAS with 7200rpm.

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post Jun 18 2019, 05:23 PM

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park kejap.. waiting for new info... im using laptop hdd for desktop.... just out of curiousity...nothing much dfferent right? except form factor
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post Aug 29 2019, 11:42 PM

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may i know for budget RM2xx 2TB harddisk, which model is reliable and more lasting??
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post Aug 30 2019, 10:12 AM

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WD been reliable for external 2.5" HDD
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post Sep 8 2019, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(davidman82 @ Aug 29 2019, 11:42 PM)
may i know for budget RM2xx 2TB harddisk, which model is reliable and more lasting??
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I'm aiming for this too, thinking to get WD blue.
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post Sep 8 2019, 09:51 PM

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QUOTE(davidman82 @ Aug 29 2019, 11:42 PM)
may i know for budget RM2xx 2TB harddisk, which model is reliable and more lasting??
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lasting if you back up to multiple place, mechanical hdd life span around 2-3 year max, more than that is considered very good already and bad sector will crop up anytime.
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post Jan 28 2020, 11:12 AM

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hye guys want to ask, is this good external hdd ? just wan to get cheap for put some things so 500gb is enough.
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post Feb 10 2020, 03:18 PM

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Anyone can help me regarding my WD Red?

I bought a new WD Red.
Tried to put into my computer as secondary HDD, and when I try to initialize, it says "The request could not be performed because of an I/O device error".
Tried to find Google for all possible solutions, but problem still persists.
Tried to change my SATA cable, still the same.
Tried to install OS on the HDD, but Windows cannot detect the HDD.

Any solutions, guys?
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post Mar 12 2020, 06:34 PM

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are the wd passport any good?

https://shopee.com.my/WD-Western-Digital-1T...09145.704796448

im not looking for anything too big, just looking to backup my phone gallery and av stash.

i noticed you guys say hardisk degrade over time why is that?

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