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post Oct 16 2017, 04:47 AM

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Android Co-Founder: Keyboards Will Be Gone in 20 Years[B]

Within 20 years, computer keyboards will be relegated to the technology dustbin, says Android co-founder Rich Miner: he and others believe that the way humans communicate with machines is undergoing a fundamental change. The keyboard -- which dates back to the 1800s -- will be phased out over the next couple of decades, except for some "legacy applications," Miner argues. Touchscreens have already kicked off this shift.

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The key methods will include voice recognition; "digital ink" (think stylus pens that enable you to write and draw on screens); and the ability for computers to understand facial expressions and gestures. These technologies already exist but are far from perfect. Miner believes they’ll continue to get better. Some example capabilities he mentions include holding up a hand to pause a video; software that digitizes and transcribes handwritten notes, even if the handwriting is so sloppy the writer can’t make out the words; and software that recognizes, from a person’s facial expression, that her or she is frustrated with an app—and responds accordingly.



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well with smartphones you have haptic feedback. so unless that technology improves enough to provide as good an accuracy, and typing we've come to appreciate on a mkb, then i don't think keyboards will be going away.

even rubberdome keyboards will still be around if only due to being cheap.



only way mkb will be dead is once minotiry report level of tech finally becomes a thing hmm.gif
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post Oct 25 2017, 04:55 PM

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Just an example of a skeuomorphism ( a concept first invented by archaeologist Henry March in 1890. There are more definitions than you can count, but broadly it refers to the aspects of an object’s design that no longer have a function)


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The most famous case is the keyboards of modern computers. The QWERTY layout, the name of which comes from the first six letters on the upper left-hand row, was created by newspaper editor Christopher Latham Sholes in the early 1870s. According to urban legend, the design was intended to make typing slow and awkward. In reality, it made his writers even quicker.

At the time typewriters had a major flaw: if you pressed down on two neighbouring characters in quick succession, the whole thing would jam. To overcome this he designed a keyboard where the letters that often follow each other in a sentence, such as “ST”, were placed further apart.

Eventually this layout was copied onto other technologies. There’s no longer any mechanical need for it and others such as Dvorak, a simplified keyboard invented by educational psychologist August Dvorak in 1936, require less finger movement and boost typing speed. Yet QWERTY has stuck because that’s what we all learned on.  

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http://www.bbc.com/future/story/20171023-t...modern-products





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https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001637.htm


so unfortunately something outdated like QWERTY is still in use regardless of more logically thought out layouts better suited for the job.

But it takes time to learn a new layout, ontop of having to worry whether a game or app supports it, and as gamers the WASD is quite important as well rclxub.gif but qwerty isn't going away anytime soon.

So using that as a basis i doubt that some of these outdated skeuomorphisms will necessarily be dying off anytime soon, especially if we are already habitually hooked into their usage.

I did try dvorak out of curiosity but quickly reverted back to QWERTY after a while.

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post Nov 6 2017, 09:33 AM

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now even virtual got keyboard icon_rolleyes.gif


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post Nov 17 2017, 07:32 PM

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saw a nice shop local shop selling mech keyboards. i'll go check it out this week :} they got mech keyboard, keycaps and gaming chairs.

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So this was the MKB shop i went to go visit. This is a very good place if you intend to purchase Ducky MKB and some of the other brands locally in Malaysia (these days no longer have to import, local market now has reliable distributors). They got an online store at lazada, or you can buy direct from their shop located at Pelangi Square, Mutiara Damansara, Petaling Jaya, Selangor.

https://www.ultimatchsolution.com.my/


another great thing about this store is they also have teaching sessions if your interested to learn about soldering so you can DIY by switching out switches when the need arises. You can then buy new switches and install it yourself when some switches has issues, or you can modify your switch layout with different switch types. They even had some models with modular switches that don't require soldering. It's just remove/replace (no soldiering involved).


also if you are a serious buyer, you can try out MKB before making your decision which switch and model you like most. they don't mind.



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I was pleasantly surprised that they had ducky year of the rooster Limited Edition MKB. pbt double shots. RM799 and they got 6 units in the whole of Malaysia. if you want one, you had better go buy now before out of stock. Quality wise it's way better than my old tiger limited edition, and cheaper than when i bought mine as well.

in total for world wide, only 2017 of these units were made o-O;

the boxing is very nicely packaged, but more important the MKB itself also feels like a very premium grade mkb. it was nice to look at and type on (tested). I recommend this mkb if you're a collector and want to add something artistically cool to your work station desktop tabletop.



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the other collectible i saw was a 711 Ducky limited edition. This one has a variation of different cherry mx switches. Seemed usable for me. It's nice collectible if you want a mkb with a variety of switches. RM 579



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Most of the lowyat members probably will go for something more minimal and budget oriented. So i also checked for that at the store nod.gif for their budget minded model, i saw these that i liked

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- Ducky One tenkeyless Pbt keycaps which are side printed. You see the txt via the sides, so when typing it doesn't wear them out. Price RM 369  (just keep in mind this does not have numpad if your not familiar with tenkeyless term)

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- they also had this ducky tkl but not sure how much. but i recall it was doubleshot pbt with lighting

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- Ducky Zero non backlit. double shots abs keycaps. Rm 319. even though it's the cheapest they have, the contrast on these double shots are quite crisp. i would not mind using this as a daily usage mkb.

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they got other brands too, but these were the ones i looked at the most.



One of the newest switches i tried was a Cherry silver. this video is an example of these switches in action. i tried and it's and it's something like a RED brown hybrid. red with tactile similar to a brown. actuation similar to a red but with tactile feedback which is more to my tastes.



Silver and Brown are my favorites atm

PS: some of these ducky mkbs with pbt, they also add in spare pbt keycaps which is a nice extra.


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noticed that amazon is having some heavy discounts year end. spotted this
https://www.amazon.com/KrBn-Typewriter-Stea...d/dp/B06ZZ3X3P5

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This is one for the record books. the largest mechanical keyboard in the world o_O: and it's a razer

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https://thenextweb.com/gadgets/2018/01/12/r...ard-size-table/




maybe once humans evolve to become giants, there will be a mkb ready for them laugh.gif

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post Jan 15 2018, 01:57 PM

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low profile cherry mx switches, debut ces 2018 hmm.gif solution for laptops?


https://www.lowyat.net/2018/152382/ces-2018...g-laptops-soon/

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post Jan 23 2018, 10:13 PM

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getting more n more yintelesting each year.

thanks for the share. good info for silent lurker like me biggrin.gif
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yes things are indeed getting more interesting bruce.gif



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post Feb 21 2018, 02:30 AM

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5-Way Mech Keyboard Roundup & 2.5 Tech Guys at Hot Hardware

Chris over at Hot Hardware took the time to do a roundup review that covers five difference mechanical keyboards from Corsair, Azio, HyperX, Aukey, and Cherry. Interestingly enough, the one from Cherry, was the only one that sucked.

https://hothardware.com/reviews/rgb-at-your...eyboard-roundup
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