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Frozen_Sun
post Nov 17 2016, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Nov 17 2016, 01:51 PM)
hahaha! mitsubasi sucks!
then again, that's the beauty of 8x8, lose one tyre oso no problem.
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QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Nov 17 2016, 02:02 PM)
lol at standing soldier expression.  laugh.gif
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Watch out....can happen to AV8...and yes, Badak too
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post Nov 18 2016, 06:06 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 18 2016, 03:29 PM)
Nice hat, captain.  laugh.gif

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His ancestors from union cavalry corps would be impressed too.
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post Nov 21 2016, 07:40 PM

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QUOTE(TechSuper @ Nov 21 2016, 09:06 AM)
7th Cavalry, i suppose?
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 21 2016, 12:25 PM)
Unfortunately no. These troopers are from 2nd Cavalry regiment (Stryker), based in Vilseck, Germany.
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post Nov 24 2016, 06:00 PM

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QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Nov 24 2016, 02:46 PM)
Indon defense will have to factor this development of PRC military nearer to their shore ... with or against them?
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Already had exercises with them, not to mention bought plenty of air defense and anti ship weaponry

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post Nov 26 2016, 06:19 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 26 2016, 01:39 PM)
wwooots, receive some gossip... what do u think of singkie making their own tanks?
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After Bionix in active service, I thought it will be followed by a domestic MBT
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post Nov 26 2016, 08:27 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 26 2016, 07:21 PM)
doubt so... but defense companies sure make lots of $$$ now
bionix was so long ago... lol

from bronco to terrex to lsv2 to peacekeeper prc and yesterday belrex pcsv... hmmm

news report that merkavas bring brought in might have to do with it... but i got news more towards licensing of certain parts
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yeah...I know. I thought they would start the MBT development in early 2000s, because they still had old light tanks. But after the purchase of Leopard 2SG.... I think that it'll be at least delayed.....
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post Nov 29 2016, 02:21 PM

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Kristania Besouw was bashed by Indonesian netizens when the news surfaced about her enlistment. Like what I always said, your homeland is the best for you.
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post Dec 11 2016, 02:18 PM

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I'm sure these long SureFire mags can still be useful combat situation. Personnel with these mags can lay down suppressing fire and not as part of the maneuvering team.

Kopaska operators have excellent training, I'm sure they are aware of the drawbacks and benefits of these long mags
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post Dec 11 2016, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Dec 11 2016, 03:13 PM)
If the squad still has part of the team assigned to establish a base of fire in addition to the maneuver element, I reckon they would be better off being equipped with a heavier fire support weapon like a belt-fed LMG or GPMG which would be much more suited to the job. The oft complained part about these weapons being heavy and cumbersome usually evaporate when they show their worth in a firefight. Simply using a normal assault rifle to fire hi-cap magazines would be insufficient in these cases.
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Kopaska also has Minimi, FN MAG, GPMG and Daewoo K3. With high capacity mags, assault personnel can also turn into non-maneuvering light machine gunner during close quarter combats.
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post Jan 5 2017, 05:38 PM

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West Papua is better off with Indonesia....Comparing West Papua and PNG is like heaven and earth. Just go to the outskirt of Port Moresby, you will be robbed, raped and killed.

Significant infrastructure projects are undergoing in West Papua, soon will be enough to silence those insurgents..
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post Jan 21 2017, 05:44 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 20 2017, 02:00 PM)
Nice video of the Indonesian Army Leopard 2A4 MBT manuevering on muddy grounds.

https://instagram.fjkt1-1.fna.fbcdn.net/t50...464262656_n.mp4

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Fertile, black volcanic soil...meters underneath can find ancient candi, after being forgotten for centuries through dozens of eruptions
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post Feb 11 2017, 10:53 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 10 2017, 11:25 PM)
People waiting to see how it performs in more operations first I think. For one thing, it has a rather small ammo magazine.

What's the status on those M109s coming to us BTW?
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Based on its design, I think Caesar shouldn't be seen as a conventional SPH. Better to see it as a highly mobile towed artillery; but instead of being towed the gun is mounted on the truck. Performance records in Mali and Northern Iraq recently are acceptable.


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post Feb 18 2017, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(LTZ @ Feb 18 2017, 01:32 AM)
Indonesia.....tested really good, good price as well. Ada SWAT drp US pun pkai produk depa ni
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Really? I thought MICH TC helmets are made by a US-based company, MSA
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post Feb 23 2017, 05:18 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 23 2017, 02:51 PM)
The Russian military received massive numbers of new equipment in 2016

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The Russian military received a sweeping array of new weapons last year, including 41 intercontinental ballistic missiles, and the wide-ranging military modernization will continue this year, the defense minister said on Wednesday. This was despite economic downturn and sanctions for the annexation of the Crimean peninsula.

Minister Sergei Shoigu told lawmakers the air force received 170 new aircraft, the Army received 905 tanks and other armored vehicles while the Navy received 17 new ships last year.

The rising number of new weapons has raised demands for new personnel. Shoigu said the military currently needs 1,300 more pilots and will recruit them by 2018.

As part of President Vladimir Putin's military reforms, the armed forces have received new weapons and now engage in regular large-scale drills.

Russia has also used its revived military capability in Syria, where it has launched an air campaign in support of Syrian President Bashar Assad and used the conflict to test its new weapons for the first time in combat.

The weapons modernization effort has seen the 1-million Russian military narrow the technological gap in some areas where Russia had fallen behind the West, such as long-range conventional weapons, communications and drone technologies.

The minister also said the military will complete the formation of three new divisions in the nation's west and southwest, and also deploy a new division on the Pacific Kuril Islands, which have been claimed by Japan.
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905 tanks? Refurbished T-80 and T-72?
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post Mar 10 2017, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Mar 10 2017, 04:32 PM)
NOW I KNOW doh.gif
KORANG DENGAN AKRONYM KAU bangwall.gif
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simple:
arhanud
armed
yonif
yonkav
tontaipur
penerbad
penerbal

complex:
Bengpusbekangad
Binpotnaskuatmar
Danbrigiflinud
Sesmenkopolhukam


http://library.fes.de/pdf-files/bueros/indonesien/06992.pdf


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post Mar 10 2017, 07:20 PM

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QUOTE(lokideangelus @ Mar 10 2017, 06:47 PM)
I feel Indo military must be checked .
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It's an era when PKI, the communist party strongly influenced the government, including Sukarno himself. TNI-AU has strongest inclination towards communist interests, TNI-AL is in the middle, although the marine is known for their loyalty for Sukarno and TNI-AD has significant internal opposition against Dwikora. Dwikora itself can be seen one of the proxy wars during Cold War.

In fact, the communist purge in 1966 and beyond, is a war between TNI-AD and communists. The generals killed in 1965 massacre were also known for their opposition towards communists.

After the communists are toppled, Indonesia became western-inclined and communist-phobic, even more than US and other NATO members. Also, Indonesia switched to Malaysia's side, by eradicating TKNU in Borneo.

Investigating TNI right now for Singapore bombing would be useless, many of the communist-inclined officers were imprisoned by the new government. Even current generals were still toddlers and pre-schoolers during the Dwikora conflict.

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post Mar 10 2017, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Mar 10 2017, 09:14 PM)

the PKI was a scapegoat for CIA back military elements within the TNI to seize power from sukarno.. every since then TNI is strongly backed by the CIA

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Scapegoat or not....the conflict between (TNI-AD + religious elements) vs. communists was quite intense, especially when PKI planned to establish millions of armed peasants militia. These militia could be used to fight TNI-AD and start an actual civil war to establish a Maoist state. Fortunately, it didn't materialize, Even without CIA backing, the conflict will erupt. Of course, TNI-AD and CIA shared similar goals.

It's one of the biggest Cold War victory for western bloc, a communist-influenced country many times larger in size than Vietnam can be transformed into an ally without shedding a single drop of blood of western soldiers.
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post Mar 10 2017, 10:24 PM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 10 2017, 10:11 PM)
Indonesian marines are just trying to catch up with the Army...  sad.gif
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Yes...PT-76 and BTR-50 will need to be replaced soon. 54 BMP-3F, as well as some BTR-80 and BTR-4 is a start, don't know what will be chosen for the next 50 units of APC/IFV, but K21 seems to be the strongest candidate.


Anyway...


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post Mar 10 2017, 10:46 PM

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QUOTE(TigerLion @ Mar 10 2017, 10:35 PM)
They will be killing each other in a conflict...  sad.gif

That's why I hate doing bilateral exercises with Malaysia and Indonesia...  sad.gif

It hurts a lot to kill a friend...  sad.gif
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