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post Nov 17 2016, 03:48 AM, updated 3y ago

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post Nov 17 2016, 03:53 AM

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From previous Military Thread V22...

QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 16 2016, 07:35 AM)
QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 16 2016, 12:08 PM)
BTW yesterday some good news
RMN Receives MV Aishah Aims 4 For Hydrographic Survey
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QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 16 2016, 08:15 PM)
Indonesian National Search & Rescue Agency (Basarnas) to buy 13 more AS365N3+ Dauphin helicopters from PT DI.
Read more: http://angkasa.co.id/info/penerbangan/basa...n-lagi-dari-di/
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QUOTE(cleaner @ Nov 16 2016, 08:32 PM)
Dari berita harian online..
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 16 2016, 11:37 PM)
Pulau Tekong to get extra land the size of two Toa Payoh towns using new reclamation method
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 16 2016, 11:44 PM)
US panel urges probe on whether China weakening US militarily
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 17 2016, 01:25 AM)
Royal Navy to lose missiles and be left only with guns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/15...only-with-guns/
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QUOTE(junsheng @ Nov 17 2016, 04:34 AM)
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Still awake no work later?

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Sputnik EXCLUSIVE: Secret Document Tells Daesh Not to Attack US Coalition Planes

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The document, discovered in the recently-liberated Iraqi city of Bakhdida, about 32 km southeast of the Daesh-held stronghold of Mosul, explicitly tells jihadis not to attack any coalition aircraft over Mosul or its suburbs.

According to Sputnik Arabic, the decree was discovered by Assyrian Christian militia on an information stand in central Bakhdida, at a so-called Daesh 'mobilization center'. Such centers were established by the terrorist group to mobilize the local population and train new recruits.

The text of the decree reads: "It is strictly forbidden to shoot down, using any weapons whatsoever, any aircraft that is in the air, no matter what height they are flying at, even if the aircraft lands on the rooftop of houses."

The document is signed by local Daesh leader Abu Muawia.

The decree was discovered by the Nineveh Plain Protection Units, a militia group composed mostly of Assyrian Christians, who are concentrated in northern Iraq. The militia was formed in late 2014 to defend against Daesh, which has treated those who refused to convert to their faith with extreme brutality.

"It should be noted," Sputnik Arabic stressed, "that the competency to conduct airstrikes against Daesh in the Nineveh region lies [strictly] with planes of the international coalition led by the United States, which has repeatedly been accused of airstrikes on forces of the People's Militia and the Iraqi military, and of dropping humanitarian and military aid which has ended up in Daesh's hands."

The US and its allies began a massive campaign of airstrikes against Daesh targets in and around the northern Iraqi city of Mosul in mid-October, after Iraqi Prime Minister Haider Abadi announced a campaign to liberate the key Daesh stronghold.

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Hillary Clinton Was a War-Policy Menace — Donald Trump Could Be a Disaster

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Would Trump actually attempt to implement his plan to defeat ISIS — that is, “bomb the shit out of them” and then “take the oil” of Iraq? Or was that just the bellicose bluster of the campaign trail?
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Wall Street investors seemed convinced that the president elect would be good for defense industry giants like Lockheed Martin and General Dynamics, whose stocks surged in the wake of Trump’s win. It’s unclear whether that indicates a belief in more armed conflicts or simply more bloated military spending.
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Under President Obama, the U.S. has waged war in or carried out attacks on at least eight nations — Afghanistan, Iran, Iraq, Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen, Libya and Syria. A Clinton presidency promised more, perhaps markedly more, of the same — an attitude summed up in her infamous comment about the late Libyan autocrat Muammar Gaddafi. “We came, we saw, he died.”
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“Trump does not believe in war. He sees war as bad, destructive, death and a wealth destruction.” Of course, Trump himself said he favors committing war crimes like torture and murder.
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So there’s good reason to assume Trump will be a Clintonesque hawk or even worse, but some reason to believe — due to his propensity for lies, bluster and backing down — that he could also turn out to be less bellicose.
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Given his penchant for running businesses into the ground and for economic proposals expected to rack up trillions of dollars in debt, it’s possible that, in the end, Trump will inadvertently cripple the U.S. military.


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Thales Australia delivers Hawkei military vehicles

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CANBERRA, Australia, Nov. 16 (UPI) -- The Australian military has received Hawkei armor-protected vehicles from Thales Australia, part of an intial production from a local plant.

The delivery was witnessed by Australia's Minister for Defense Industry Christopher Pyne.

"The Hawkei, built right here in Australia, is another triumph of the capability of our defense industry, which is able to compete with the world's best," he said.

"Hawkei production will involve about 170 jobs in the Bendigo region [of Queensland]. It's expected approximately 60 additional jobs will be created in Thales' supply chain to support the production of the Hawkei vehicle."

The Hawkei is a 4x4 that carries four troops and can be airlifted by Chinook helicopters. They are for reconnaissance, liaison, command and utility functions.

It has an operational range of about 373 miles.

The Department of Defense signed a billion-dollar contract with Thales Australia last year for production of 1,100 Hawkei vehicles and more than 1000 companion trailers.

The initial production run is 10 vehicles. Full-rate production begins in 2018.

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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 17 2016, 03:25 AM)
Royal Navy to lose missiles and be left only with guns
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2016/11/15...only-with-guns/
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I thought YOU were bringing the boat? Indonesian Navy puts on a display of its military might... by making its troops stand waist-deep in water

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Troops in Indonesia have shown they do not need a boat in order to navigate through troubled waters.

A drill to mark the 71st anniversary of the country's military being founded has been held - during which marines were made to walk through waist-deep water.

Pictures showing troops wearing distinctive purple berets and camouflage gear show the unusual ceremony celebrating the formation of the Tentara Nasional Indonesia (TNI).


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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 16 2016, 06:30 PM)
As ever, I believe its budget issue as well as operational requirements
6 Kedahs x 8 missiles x about EUR 1m each = Rm224 million

Thats not chump change. Even if we arm just 2 Kedahs at a time, thats Rm75M... its the choice between up gunning the Kedahs with token* antiship weapons or buying another 1.5 LMS platforms... choose.

*with the vast array of SAMs and CIWS in existence the best antship weapon is a sublaunched torpedo. Thats the Western doctrine anyway.

P.s. RAM missile is the same price and come in 21 round launcher... you figure that price out I already rclxub.gif
Damn it looks big!

The ships are old. If it saves money to decom then, we should. Similar to UK Armed Forces, suck up a capability gap for 5-10 years then come back into the game with a bigger wallet


EUR 1 million get ASM?
well Exocet MM40 Block 3 cost usd 3.5-4 million each, even NSM also cost 2.8-3 million each.
and kedah class only design with 4 ASM (2X2 formation).

and i think you confuse with RAM Missile & launcher, only missile is cost usd 1m+-
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MK49 Launcher with hold 21 missiles cost 8 million,plus support, training, installation may cost up to 10 million usd.

assume 1 kedah class:
4pcs NSM + Launcher = usd 16 million +
30pcs RIM116c missile @1m each (21 in hole+ remaining for spare and training/testing) + launcher = 40million
total usd 56 million per-ship. (a LMS price)

My view priority still install searam (RIM116c) with Mk49 launcher first, since new version now can attack small fast moving boat.

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 17 2016, 09:41 AM)
EUR 1 million get ASM?
well Exocet MM40 Block 3 cost usd 3.5-4 million each,  even NSM also cost 2.8-3 million each.
and kedah class only design with 4 ASM (2X2 formation).
and i think you confuse with Missile & launcher, only missile is cost usd 1m+-
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Or as per my suggestion, take out the launch units on the old missile boats we're retiring anyway and install them on the Kedah-class. Should be doable. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 09:55 AM)
Or as per my suggestion, take out the launch units on the old missile boats we're retiring anyway and install them on the Kedah-class. Should be doable.  laugh.gif
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if still can use why not, but need to think it is old and short range. and how many lifespan
SG formidable class for starting also use old version Harpoon ASM take from old ship.
but our arm force usually not want old stuff, due to get old staff means possible never get new item

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2016 LATIHAN TNI AD DI NATUNA


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WW2-era wrecks of British and Dutch warships sunk of Java Island goes 'missing'

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The cruiser HMNLS De Ruyter, one of the allied ships sunk in 1942 by the Japanese off Java Island has gone missing, presumably broken apart by illegal metal scavengers

The wrecks of three British warships that sank during the Second World have been destroyed by illegal metal scavengers.
An investigation was launched after divers also discovered three Dutch ships that were torpedoed in the same place off the coast of Indonesia in 1942 during the Battle of the Java Sea had vanished.

HMS Exeter, a 175m heavy cruiser, and destroyers HMS Encounter and HMS Electra, were destroyed by Japanese forces in March 1942.

Three Dutch vessels - HMNLS De Ruyter, Java and Kortenaer - all sank on February 27, 1942, in the Battle of the Java Sea off the coast of Indonesia.

The wrecks have been almost completely removed from the seabed by illegal scavengers, an act condemned by The Ministry of Defence.

A government spokesman said: 'The UK government condemns the unauthorised disturbance of any wreck containing human remains.

'We have contacted the Indonesian authorities to express our serious concern at this news and to request that they investigate the reports and take appropriate action to protect the sites from any further disturbance.'
He added, the desecration of wrecks of war causes distress to loved ones of those lost on board and is against international law.

The shocking discovery was made by an international expedition which sailed to the wreck site in preparation for next year's 75th anniversary of the battle, the Dutch defence ministry said.


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Indonesian X18 Tank Boat Renderings. Credit to TankBoat.com.

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well, i wouldnt underestimate the will of the PRC... while its not appropriate to bring politics into this thread, it has an effect on national security and geo politics..

1st najis already makan dedak prc,

2nd both klang n jb have industries nearby mlk dont have therefore its role as an export import port wont work, might it be a regional transshipment port like sg? no, that's in the hands of western shipping companies and the biggest market in the region indonesia wont buy into it.. so what's left? resupply port? which is most likely...

3rd, other port near south asia can be a precedence of what's to come..

4th short term it would be good for msia, but the populus wont benefit much as like most big prc projects they bring in their own materials and people... long term wise, msia loses that portion of waterfront
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Why on earth they still refer this as 'tank boat'?

Got tank turret on boat count as tank boat already? Should call as 'Gun boat'. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(xtemujin @ Nov 17 2016, 10:09 AM)
2016 LATIHAN TNI AD DI NATUNA


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A much larger joint exercise involving TNI-AD, TNI-AU and TNI-AL "Latihan Pasukan Pemukul Reaksi Cepat (PPRC)" is scheduled also in Natuna on November 19th.
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A much larger joint exercise involving TNI-AD, TNI-AU and TNI-AL "Latihan Pasukan Pemukul Reaksi Cepat (PPRC)" is scheduled also in Natuna on November 19th.
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Thanks for the heads up.

QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 17 2016, 11:05 AM)
A much larger joint exercise involving TNI-AD, TNI-AU and TNI-AL "Latihan Pasukan Pemukul Reaksi Cepat (PPRC)" is scheduled also in Natuna on November 19th.
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EUR 1 million get ASM?
well Exocet MM40 Block 3 cost usd 3.5-4 million each,  even NSM also cost 2.8-3 million each.
and kedah class only design with 4 ASM (2X2 formation).

and i think you confuse with RAM Missile & launcher, only missile is cost usd 1m+-
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MK49 Launcher with hold 21 missiles cost 8 million,plus support, training, installation may cost up to 10 million usd.  

assume 1 kedah class:
4pcs NSM + Launcher = usd 16 million +
30pcs RIM116c missile @1m each (21 in hole+ remaining for spare and training/testing) + launcher = 40million
total usd 56 million per-ship.    (a LMS price)

My view priority still install searam (RIM116c) with Mk49 launcher  first, since new version now can attack small fast moving boat.
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Harpoon Block 2 claimed USD 1.2M, Exocet claimed EUR 800K in previous years, then I mark up a bit. Tomahawk cruise missile is USD 1.1M-1.2M also. Kongsberg NSM is quoted to be around or slightly lower than Tomahawk ie USD 1M or a bit less. RAM also, yes per shot , I didn't check RAM launcher price but it should be expensive since RAM's standout point is in its rapidfire systems and radar.

Of course this is from Jane's, defence news and US govt budget data. If you have better source it would be great.

I didn't know Kedah only supposed to have 4 biji total sad.gif

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left 6 week end 2016,still no sign MD530G delivery. hopefully got news on next week.
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Not this year but in middle 2017.

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SHAH ALAM: Its better late than never, so the saying goes. When I first heard about the decision to order the MD-530G Light Scout Armed Helicopters in October last year, I expected that it will be delivered by 2017, at the earliest.


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The MD-530Gs will not be delivered this year. It is likely that the first aircraft will only be ferried here by the middle of 2017.

And the training of PUTD pilots selected for the MD-530Gs will only commenced early next year, a delay as much as six months.

The training – basic aircraft handling and weapon system familiarization to safely release ordnance – will be conducted at MD Helicopters facilities in Mesa, Arizona. And by that, it will take at least another 24 months before the helicopters could be declared operationally ready.

Why the delay then? As funding for the helicopters was not included in 2016 allocation, payment – even the initial one – need to be green lighted under the 2017 Budget. No one from the Treasury will take the chance to pay for something that had yet to be funded. In certain cases, they will but the helicopters are not priority items.


http://www.malaysiandefence.com/better-late-never-2/
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 17 2016, 11:47 AM)
I didn't know Kedah only supposed to have 4 biji total sad.gif
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Exocets are designed to be installed in modular crate/launch units for smaller ships like small frigates, corvettes or missile boats, AFAIK they aren't designed to be launched by VLS. Most ships that use Exocets have max 8 missiles anyway IIRC. Smaller ships like missile boats carry as little as 2 missiles only.

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 17 2016, 01:17 PM)
resupply port  unsure.gif
welcome Russian fleet to pump petrol and get refreshment  rclxms.gif
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Do Russian Navy ships regularly make port calls when they pass through here?
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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 10:40 AM)
well, i wouldnt underestimate the will of the PRC... while its not appropriate to bring politics into this thread, it has an effect on national security and geo politics..

1st najis already makan dedak prc,

2nd both klang n jb have industries nearby mlk dont have therefore its role as an export import port wont work, might it be a regional transshipment port like sg? no, that's in the hands of western shipping companies and the biggest market in the region indonesia wont buy into it.. so what's left? resupply port? which is most likely...

3rd, other port near south asia can be a precedence of what's to come..

4th short term it would be good for msia, but the populus wont benefit much as like most big prc projects they bring in their own materials and people... long term wise, msia loses that portion of waterfront
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It will likely turn out to be the 1st military foothold in SEA for the PRC.
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 17 2016, 11:47 AM)
Harpoon Block 2 claimed USD 1.2M, Exocet claimed EUR 800K in previous years, then I mark up a bit. Tomahawk cruise missile is USD 1.1M-1.2M also. Kongsberg NSM is quoted to be around or slightly lower than Tomahawk ie USD 1M or a bit less. RAM also, yes per shot , I didn't check RAM launcher price but it should be expensive since RAM's standout point is in its rapidfire systems and radar.

Of course this is from Jane's, defence news and US govt budget data. If you have better source it would be great.

I didn't know Kedah only supposed to have 4 biji total sad.gif
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well we must see on hole packages cost not single unit price, US missile sell locally is national price, also it only missile price, not include packages. mainly refilll the stock.
you can see other country order Harpoon price price include all packages can from usd 3-7 million if average out for single unit price。
also US missile usually cheaper than euro missile due to large quantity production。
now small small missile also usd 1++ million.
but you know lah use US missile weapon must follow there role & policy。
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 12:14 PM)
Exocets are designed to be installed in modular crate/launch units for smaller ships like small frigates, corvettes or missile boats, AFAIK they aren't designed to be launched by VLS.  Most ships that use Exocets have max 8 missiles anyway IIRC. Smaller ships like missile boats carry as little as 2 missiles only.
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actually Harpoon is smaller than Exocet, but now NSM also smaller than Harpoon & But NSM warhead also smaller。
JSM will have VLS version call JSM-VL (in RnD now), use for navy warship。JSM-VL will add 1 meter booster,range possible extend to 220km+ so can install in 5 meter MK41 VLS
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well we must see on hole packages cost not single unit price,  US missile sell locally is national price, also it only missile price, not include packages. mainly refilll the stock.
you can see other country order Harpoon price price include all packages can from usd 3-7 million if average out for single unit price。
also US missile usually cheaper than euro missile due to large quantity production。
now small small missile also usd 1++ million.
but you know lah use US missile weapon must follow there role & policy。
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Fair enough.
Then our best source is probably this recent sale to India.

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The contract is worth $81 million, according to PTI. The contract includes the procurement of 22 Lot 89 Harpoon missiles, associated containers and components. These missiles will be ready by June 2018 to be delivered to India.


US$ 3 million, almost US$ 4 million rclxub.gif can expect Exocet to cost at least as much if not a little more... the price of two LMS
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 17 2016, 01:45 PM)
actually Harpoon is smaller than Exocet, but now NSM also smaller than Harpoon & But NSM warhead also smaller。
JSM will have VLS version call JSM-VL (in RnD now), use for navy warship。JSM-VL will add 1 meter booster,range possible extend to 220km+ so can install in 5 meter MK41 VLS
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Wah so lightweight? And here I thot Exocet small already. laugh.gif
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QUOTE(ks1230 @ Nov 17 2016, 10:57 AM)


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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 12:57 PM)
Why on earth they still refer this as 'tank boat'?

Got tank turret on boat count as tank boat already? Should call as 'Gun boat'. laugh.gif
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suka dia org.. boat plane ke, tank plane ke, boat car ke.. janji indon bahagia.. anyone tried out such a platform before? i wonder how accurate is the gun while on water..

QUOTE(azriel @ Nov 17 2016, 01:05 PM)
A much larger joint exercise involving TNI-AD, TNI-AU and TNI-AL "Latihan Pasukan Pemukul Reaksi Cepat (PPRC)" is scheduled also in Natuna on November 19th.
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integrated force.. indons are getting smarter... their konstrad seems to be well trained

QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 17 2016, 03:17 PM)
resupply port  unsure.gif
welcome Russian fleet to pump petrol and get refreshment  rclxms.gif
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the last time a ruski vessl berth and was stranded at indon port near kalimantan due to demurrage issues.. 18 of the 40 crew died after bringing on board moonlighted drinks laced with industrial alcohol.. noone expected them to drink so much

QUOTE(mcnoodle @ Nov 17 2016, 03:31 PM)
It will likely turn out to be the 1st military foothold in SEA for the PRC.
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hidup prc!!! msia boleh serbis byk byk.. syukur myr jatuh..

QUOTE(pcboss00 @ Nov 17 2016, 04:02 PM)
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hahaha! mitsubasi sucks!
then again, that's the beauty of 8x8, lose one tyre oso no problem.
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suka dia org.. boat plane ke, tank plane ke, boat car ke.. janji indon bahagia.. anyone tried out such a platform before? i wonder how accurate is the gun while on water..
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Just like tank on land, if the gun is fully stabilized then it should be pretty accurate.

This reminds me of the Soviet WW2 river gunboats. To simplify production, they simply installed tank turrets onto armored hulls to patrol the riverways of Russia.

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 17 2016, 03:22 PM)
Just like tank on land, if the gun is fully stabilized then it should be pretty accurate.

This reminds me of the Soviet WW2 river gunboats. To simplify production, they simply installed tank turrets onto armored hulls to patrol the riverways of Russia.

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Just like tank on land, if the gun is fully stabilized then it should be pretty accurate.

This reminds me of the Soviet WW2 river gunboats. To simplify production, they simply installed tank turrets onto armored hulls to patrol the riverways of Russia.

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their tank boat can go on land no? hmm.gif
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Why nobody call this pt boat? laugh.gif
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The aircraft is likely to be a Changhe Z-8, a Chinese copy of the SA 321 Super Frelon, according to an earlier press release by the ministry.

It had to make a force landing aboard the ship and was on fire, the deputy commanding officer of the vessel made a decision to push the aircraft off the deck after he discovered fuel was leaking while putting out the fire.


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
suka dia org.. boat plane ke, tank plane ke, boat car ke.. janji indon bahagia.. anyone tried out such a platform before? i wonder how accurate is the gun while on water..
integrated force.. indons are getting smarter... their konstrad seems to be well trained
the last time a ruski vessl berth and was stranded at indon port near kalimantan due to demurrage issues.. 18 of the 40 crew died after bringing on board moonlighted drinks laced with industrial alcohol.. noone expected them to drink so much
hidup prc!!! msia boleh serbis byk byk.. syukur myr jatuh..
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No. What made you think they could? They are boats after all.  confused.gif
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they tough every clear alcohol must be Vodka  sad.gif  kesian
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biggrin.gif poor buggers..

i dun like bintang either
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Negotiations under way on additional equipment package for Indonesia's PKR frigate

Richard Scott, London - IHS Jane's Navy International
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Key Points

• Damen has been contracted by Indonesia to procure a range of 'fitted for but not with' systems
• Specific equipments include MBDA's VL Mica point defence missile system and its MM 40 Block 3 Exocet anti-ship missile system, and the Rheinmetall Millennium 35 mm cannon

Damen Schelde Naval Shipbuilding (DSNS) is in negotiations with several suppliers for the procurement of a package of weapons and equipments for backfitting to two SIGMA 10514 Perusak Kawal Rudal (PKR) frigates being delivered to the Indonesian Navy (Tentara Nasional Indonesia - Angkatan Laut, or TNI-AL).

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The Indonesian Ministry of Defence (MoD) and DSNS as prime contractor, signed a contract in December 2012 for the first PKR.


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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 17 2016, 02:53 PM)
the last time a ruski vessl berth and was stranded at indon port near kalimantan due to demurrage issues.. 18 of the 40 crew died after bringing on board moonlighted drinks laced with industrial alcohol.. noone expected them to drink so much
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On 21 June 2011, after having been anchored off Muara Asam Asam in Kalimantan, Indonesia, for almost two months due to a commercial dispute on a quality of loaded nickel ore, seven crew members managed to purchase three litres of pure spirits from a ship chandler to have a party.

Unbeknownst to them, the captain of the ship had asked the ship chandler to deliver ethanol for the ship's medical kit, but had rejected the suspicious-looking bottles because they had no prints proving that the content was suitable for medical use. Instead of 90–95% ethanol spirit the liquid in the bottles contained 36% of methanol, and four of the seven crew members involved in the party died as a result of methanol poisoning.
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You could imbibe small doses of ETHANOL and it will give you a buzz. Not so much METHANOL though, that stuff is totally toxic to the human body and will kill no matter the dose.
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Japan gives Malaysia two patrol boats

Japanese Prime Minister Shinzo Abe said on Wednesday that Tokyo will give Malaysia two patrol boats, a move that visiting Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak welcomed as an aid to promoting stability in the South China Sea.

Najib arrived in Japan on Tuesday on a visit that comes just weeks after he was in China on a six-day visit in which he agreed to buy four Chinese patrol boats in his nation's first significant defense deal with China.

"Today's agreement - Japan is willing to hand over two decommissioned patrol vessels to our maritime enforcement agency - shows the nature of our relationship is now broad-based," Najib said.

Malaysia, along with three other members of the Association of Southeast Asian Nations (ASEAN) - the Philippines, Vietnam and Brunei - are among the countries contesting territorial claims with China over the South China Sea. China claims nearly the entire body of water as its territory.

Najib said talks with Abe touched on this issue, adding: "Malaysia continues to play its part to ensure the South China Sea will be an area of peace and stability, without which we cannot achieve prosperity."

Discussions also included the planned high-speed rail link between Singapore and the Malaysian capital of Kuala Lumpur, set to be built by 2026 and with the two neighbors set to finalize a bilateral agreement in December.

Japan has expressed interest in the project, and Najib said he had assured Abe that the bidding process would be conducted in a fair and transparent way.


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I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that? confused.gif

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I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that?  confused.gif
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 18 2016, 08:25 AM)
not only soldier, Human are like that car too big complain no power , great power complain fuel monster, too small car not stable.....
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I don't get soldiers sometimes. One time they will complain current weapons are too heavy, range is too long and uses bullets that are too large. Later complain weapons are too light, range is too short and uses bullets that are too small.

How la like that?  confused.gif
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that's why have different weapons.. sama je la, ns boy also complain byk byk
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Today I Learned: In WW2, the Nazis awarded 'German Blood Certificates' (Deutschblütigkeitserklärung) to Jewish military officers that served in the Armed Forces

A German Blood Certificate (Deutschblütigkeitserklärung) was a document provided by Hitler to Mischlinge (those with partial Jewish heritage), declaring them deutschblütig (of German blood). This practice was begun sometime after the Nuremberg Laws of 1935, and allowed exemption from most of Germany's racial laws.

These certificates were 300 mm (11¾ in) by 210 mm (8¼ in), with a signature on the front and the red seal of the Office of Racial Research of the Nazi Party. The back listed the ancestry of the individual concerned, back to the grandparents of the father and the mother. Individuals awarded these 'Blood Certificates' were deemed 'Honorary Aryans'.

During the Third Reich, the status of Honorary Aryan was occasionally conferred to certain Jews out of pragmatic considerations. For instance, Jews who had been decorated in World War I by providing military service for the German Empire and who had maintained their support thereafter were unofficially commemorated as "honorary Aryans" and subjected to comparatively less discrimination than most other Jews were.

These were also awarded to currently-serving military officers and soldiers which achievements allowed their racial status as Jewish to be overlooked. A top example is Field Marshall Erhard Milch, who was one of the fathers of the Luftwaffe and who reported directly to Hermann Goering. He was one of the highest recipients of the award. Another Luftwaffe top officer was General Helmuth Wilberg.

Other high-ranking Jewish recipients of the Blood Certificates were Wehrmacht Generals Gottard Heinrici, Artur Zukertort and his brother Karl Zukertort. Others were Waffen-SS General Horst Heyer, Kriegsmarine Admirals Bernhardt Rogge, Harald Netzbandt and Paul Ascher (who was Chief of Staff and first officer to the battleship Bismarck). Besides these high-ranking officers, numerous lower-ranking soldiers also was awarded these certificates. It is speculated that there are more than 150,000 soldiers of various ranks in the armed forces who are recipients of this award.

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RAF Typhoons Claim Win In Exercise With Malaysian Flankers
Oct 28, 2016 Bradley Perrett | Aviation Week & Space Technology

The Royal Air Force (RAF) does not usually claim victory in an exercise—it prefers to stay quiet about such matters. But British Eurofighter Typhoon pilots report that they defeated Malaysian Sukhoi Su-30MKM Flankers in mock battles this month, with a new helmet-mounted sighting system regarded as essential. Warm-up drills for Exercise Bersama Lima 16, held in Malaysia Oct. 4-21, provided the first opportunity for RAF Typhoons to be pitched against the Su-30MKMs of the Royal Malaysian .

link, but no account to read all report.

http://aviationweek.com/combat-aircraft/ra...aysian-flankers
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RAF Typhoons Claim Win In Exercise With Malaysian Flankers
Oct 28, 2016 Bradley Perrett | Aviation Week & Space Technology

The Royal Air Force (RAF) does not usually claim victory in an exercise—it prefers to stay quiet about such matters. But British Eurofighter Typhoon pilots report that they defeated Malaysian Sukhoi Su-30MKM Flankers in mock battles this month, with a new helmet-mounted sighting system regarded as essential. Warm-up drills for Exercise Bersama Lima 16, held in Malaysia Oct. 4-21, provided the first opportunity for RAF Typhoons to be pitched against the Su-30MKMs of the Royal Malaysian .

link, but no account to read all report.

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US Government Approves $21.1Bln Sale to Qatar of F-15 Fighter Jet Package

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WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The US government approved the sale of an F-15 fighter jet package that will include 72 aircraft, support and training worth an estimated $21.1 billion to Qatar, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a press release.

“The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Qatar for F-15QA aircraft with weapons and related support, equipment, and training. The estimated cost is $21.1 billion,” the release stated on Thursday.

The release added that the proposed sale enhances the national security of the United State by helping to improve the security of a friendly country.

Qatar, a wealthy Persian Gulf nation, is part of the Saudi Arabian-led coalition that is engaged in an air war against Shia Houthi rebels in the neighbouring country of Yemen.

The approval of Qatar’s latest weapons request follows US sales of $33 billion in military hardware to Persian Gulf nations since May 2015, according to the State Department.

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Trump talked to Putin on Monday. And he reportedly met with Abe on Thursday in New York. But his transition team reached out to the Pentagon and several other agencies for the first time only on Thursday afternoon, a defense official told The Daily Beast. Throughout his first week as president-elect, Trump has forged ahead with crafting U.S. foreign policy apparently without the input of the relevant departments.
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Almost two decades after buying the hull from Ukraine in 1998, China’s sole aircraft carrier, the Liaoning, has finally been declared combat ready.

China’s aircraft carrier, as well as the rest of its rapidly modernizing navy, puts Beijing in an elite club with the greatest naval powers in the world. The development has raised eyebrows in the Pacific and globally, as China ignores international law, builds and militarizes artificial islands in the South China Sea, and threatens and bullies its neighbors.
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US Government Approves $21.1Bln Sale to Qatar of F-15 Fighter Jet Package

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WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The US government approved the sale of an F-15 fighter jet package that will include 72 aircraft, support and training worth an estimated $21.1 billion to Qatar, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a press release.

“The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Qatar for F-15QA aircraft with weapons and related support, equipment, and training. The estimated cost is $21.1 billion,” the release stated on Thursday.

The release added that the proposed sale enhances the national security of the United State by helping to improve the security of a friendly country.

Qatar, a wealthy Persian Gulf nation, is part of the Saudi Arabian-led coalition that is engaged in an air war against Shia Houthi rebels in the neighbouring country of Yemen.

The approval of Qatar’s latest weapons request follows US sales of $33 billion in military hardware to Persian Gulf nations since May 2015, according to the State Department.

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US Government Approves $21.1Bln Sale to Qatar of F-15 Fighter Jet Package

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WASHINGTON (Sputnik) — The US government approved the sale of an F-15 fighter jet package that will include 72 aircraft, support and training worth an estimated $21.1 billion to Qatar, the Defense Security Cooperation Agency said in a press release.

“The State Department has made a determination approving a possible Foreign Military Sale to the Government of Qatar for F-15QA aircraft with weapons and related support, equipment, and training. The estimated cost is $21.1 billion,” the release stated on Thursday.

The release added that the proposed sale enhances the national security of the United State by helping to improve the security of a friendly country.

Qatar, a wealthy Persian Gulf nation, is part of the Saudi Arabian-led coalition that is engaged in an air war against Shia Houthi rebels in the neighbouring country of Yemen.

The approval of Qatar’s latest weapons request follows US sales of $33 billion in military hardware to Persian Gulf nations since May 2015, according to the State Department.

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72. fking 72.  ohmy.gif
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South Korea to buy Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures from U.S.

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WASHINGTON, Nov. 17 (UPI) -- The U.S. State Department has approved a proposed foreign military sale of Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasure systems to South Korea.

Large Aircraft Infrared Countermeasures, or LAIRCM, are pods integrated onto aircraft to assist pilots with detecting and avoiding incoming threats. The devices are capable of countering advanced missile systems with no action required by the crew.

The LAIRCM program was launched by Northrop Grumman to protect large aircraft from man-portable missiles. The industry giant is listed as the principal contractor for the sale.

The proposed $141 million sale includes LAIRCM systems for up to 4 A-330 multirole tanker aircraft. Each system is comprised of 3 Guardian Laser Terminal Assemblies, 6 Ultra-Violet Missile Warning Systems, and additional equipment.

According to the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency, which manages the FMS program, South Korea is seeking the devices to support its aerial refueling and troop transport capabilities, enabling their forces to project air power across larger distances.

The State Department says the sale advances U.S. security interests, noting the close military and economic alliance with South Korea.

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Nice hat, captain.  laugh.gif

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 18 2016, 07:18 PM)
plus 24 rafales worr
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who's threatening them? iran?
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72. fking 72.  ohmy.gif
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and 40 F/A-18E/F Super Hornets for another USD 10.1 billion. However they may buy less F-15s if they want to include Typhoon... I'm not sure why???

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/kuwait...-into-the-2020s

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The agreement with Qatar would bring in approximately $21.1 billion for the aircraft and their associated weapons systems, US-based training, maintenance support equipment, and logistics support, among other items. The country is considering splitting the 72-jet purchase between Boeing’s F-15 and the Eurofighter Typhoon.


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Iraq: ISIS Retreat from More areas in Mosul Countryside

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Iraqi forces have made more agains against the ISIS terrorist group in the countryside of Iraqi city of Mosul. Iraqi security forces have libearted the villages of Umarkan and Tawajinat south the ISIS-controlled city. The Popular Mobilization Units have taken control of the villages of Zariqi and Khidr al Yas west of Mosul.

Now the PMU is advancing on the key ISIS-controlled town of Tal Afar. If the PMU is able to liberate it from ISIS, the terrorist group will be cut off from their supply lines heading to Syria.

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7 out of 18 major blocks have been assembled
7 daripada 18 blok @RMN_LCS pertama telah siap dibina & disambung di atas keel line.
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Philippine defense and military officials today have seen how Israeli missile system work. Israel Military Industries (IMI) and Israel Aerospace Industries (IAI)-ELTA jointly conducted a live-fire demonstration in Israel, Friday afternoon (Manila time), according to MaxDefense Philippines.

The said live-firing was to demonstrate Israeli firms’ offer for Philippine Army’s Shore Based Missile System (SBMS) acquisition project, MaxDefense said.

“Among those demonstrated were the IMI Lynx mobile launching system, the EXTRA, Accular, and Predator Hawk guided rocket systems, and smart ammunitions for the 155mm howitzers, which are offered to the AFP as well,” MaxDefense said.

Present during the said demonstration were National Defense Undersecretary for Finance and Material Raymund Elefante, Armed Forces of the Philippines (AFP) Chief-of-Staff General Ricardo Visaya, Army commanding general Lieutenant General Eduardo Año, Philippine Marine Corps commandant Major General Andre M. Costales Jr., Navy vice commander Rear Admiral Rafael G. Mariano, and other officials from the Army and Navy.

MaxDefense Philippines is being managed by Max Montero, an Australia-based defense analyst and a former naval reservist officer in the Philippine Navy.

In mid-2015, a reprioritization in the AFP modernization program was made by senior defense and military officials shelving the planned SBMS acquisition project (at that time) in favor of equipment that can be used for internal threats.


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The MoD is used to having Harpoon missiles, however due to budgetary concerns the Navy will be forced to use its 4.5 inch gun with a range of just 17 miles.

Without the Harpoon Block 1C system, the Navy's escort fleet — that is, Type 45 anti-aircraft destroyers and Type 23 anti-submarine frigates — will be left with purely defensive missile weapons, various automatic guns of up to 30mm caliber and a single 4.5" medium gun.

As a result, the Royal Navy warships will now be less capable of fighting enemy vessels than they were in the 19 century.


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RAF Typhoons Claim Win In Exercise With Malaysian Flankers
Oct 28, 2016 Bradley Perrett | Aviation Week & Space Technology

The Royal Air Force (RAF) does not usually claim victory in an exercise—it prefers to stay quiet about such matters. But British Eurofighter Typhoon pilots report that they defeated Malaysian Sukhoi Su-30MKM Flankers in mock battles this month, with a new helmet-mounted sighting system regarded as essential. Warm-up drills for Exercise Bersama Lima 16, held in Malaysia Oct. 4-21, provided the first opportunity for RAF Typhoons to be pitched against the Su-30MKMs of the Royal Malaysian .

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 20 2016, 01:16 PM)
i have question, not intend to bad name anyone just for common knowledge as normal rakyat .

i know a robbery incident at Tesco Puchong video below :


the place is just few step away from a Pos mini, can the Pos Malaysia police banduan respond to this robbery or they have no right to do it since this is not under his job scope.
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 20 2016, 01:16 PM)
i have question, not intend to bad name anyone just for common knowledge as normal rakyat .

i know a robbery incident at Tesco Puchong video below :


the place is just few step away from a Pos mini, can the Pos Malaysia police banduan respond to this robbery or they have no right to do it since this is not under his job scope.
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what can they do? bludgeon those armed robbers to death with their baton? lel

also, not every pos station got those polis bantuan
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what can they do? bludgeon those armed robbers to death with their baton? lel

also, not every pos station got those polis bantuan
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How prepared is Singapore for an attack?

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The scene: With their submachine guns raised, police officers stormed into the Century Square shopping mall in Tampines.

Moving swiftly in teams of two to four, they took aim and fired. Moments later, the "terrorists", who had earlier "killed" shoppers and taken others hostage, lay dead on the floor.

The reality: These were the police's new Emergency Response Teams (ERTs) responding to a mock terror attack during an islandwide counter-terrorism exercise last month.

These crack troops, who are trained in counter-assault skills, will be one of the first responders to any terrorist attack. They were commissioned in June and it is not uncommon to see them with their HK-MP 5 submachine guns and kevlar helmets patrolling the heartlands or city area.


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The threat of a terror attack is at its highest ever in recent times and security agencies have been packing more muscle to deal with the possibility of a strike.

This year, the police, Singapore Civil Defence Force (SCDF) and Singapore Armed Forces have held a series of drills simulating mock strikes on different types of civilian targets, ranging from shopping malls to a hospital. These culminated in an islandwide exercise last month that involved coordinated attacks on multiple targets across the island.

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Two months ago, the SG Secure national movement was launched by Prime Minister Lee Hsien Loong in an effort to sensitise, train and mobilise Singaporeans to prevent terror incidents and respond to them.

Under the campaign, the Government is hoping to equip at least one person in every household with basic emergency skills such as CPR.

The National Security Coordination Secretariat (NSCS) has ramped up its Let's Stand Together initiative to make people aware they can play a role in staying alert.

It put out ads and animated videos at bus and train stations based on eyeball figures who flag suspicious objects and raise the alarm.

"Eyeball characters were used because our eyes are our first defence in spotting and reporting threats; also, a play on the word 'I', which can represent each and every Singaporean," the NSCS said.

These measures amount to Singapore's largest counter-offensive against the terror threat, but has this been enough?

A WORK IN PROGRESS

At a panel discussion organised by Insight last Monday, experts said the nation still has some way to go.

Associate Professor Kumar Ramakrishna, head of policy studies at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies, said these efforts will go some way towards boosting awareness of the threat and could "pay dividends" in future.

But it is still very much a work in progress.

Last Monday, Home Affairs Minister K. Shanmugam said at a dialogue at the National University of Singapore that there was a real risk of citizens seeing no need to be concerned about the threat.

"The real challenge for us is how to make our population more sensitised and not that they will overreact," he said.

Professor David Chan, director of the Singapore Management University's Behavioural Sciences Institute, told the roundtable that, to some, a terror attack in Singapore is still a distant possibility and campaigns that do not make the danger relatable are at risk of being dismissed as "just another tagline".

"Think about Marina Bay, its famous skyline, and think about a rocket hitting that place, can it happen? Even if it misses, it can hit somewhere else," said Prof Chan, referring to a recent plot by a Batam terror cell to fire a rocket from the Indonesian island to Marina Bay.

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While the plot was foiled by Indonesian police in August, it is proof that the threat of an attack is ever present and not a remote possibility, said Prof Chan.

Another wake-up call came this year when six Bangladeshi workers were jailed for two to five years after being caught raising money in Singapore to fund acts of terror in their homeland.

They were the first to be convicted under the Terrorism (Suppression of Financing) Act.

Drawing on his own experience to illustrate Singaporeans' indifference to the terror threat, Prof Chan cited a recent example where he saw an unattended bag left near an escalator at the Harbourfront Ferry Terminal. Even though there was a considerable crowd, no one had reported it.

There is a scientific explanation for this, he said, adding that research has shown that when there are more people around, the impetus to take responsibility and do something is reduced.

"The responsibility is diffused and you begin to wonder: Is it my job?" he said.

His advice: "Don't wait... if I keep waiting, nobody would do it. But if I know this and if I do it, then maybe I can prevent something."

DANGER OF COMPLACENCY

This indifference might be due to the fact that although Singapore has disrupted the Jemaah Islamiah terror network and foiled its plots, and detected radicalised persons, it has not had a terror attack for decades.

The last one happened in 1991 when four Pakistani hijackers seized Singapore Airlines plane SQ117.


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Two other significant attacks have happened in Singapore's history.

In 1965, at the height of Konfrontasi, two Indonesian commandos set off a bomb at MacDonald House in Orchard Road, killing three people.

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And in 1974, the Laju ferry was hijacked off Pulau Bukom by four terrorists from the Japanese Red Army and the Popular Front for the Liberation of Palestine.

Prof Chan said the Government has been doing such a good job of preventing attacks since then that Singaporeans are inured to the threat.

He called it the "paradox of success".

Contrast the attitudes of Singaporeans with people in Israel - there, those who can afford it buy cars for their children so that they can drive to school and avoid taking the bus, said Dr Kumar.

"Why? Because the suicide bombers targeted the buses and public transport. So the threat is very palpable. You don't need to convince them, they know this is what you need to do," he added.

While buying a car to avoid taking public transport here would be quite extreme, Singaporeans could instead take small steps such as keeping their eyes peeled for suspicious characters and unattended bags in public, said accountant Rama Diwakar, 45.

"We can all play a part by being the eyes and ears of the authorities," said Madam Rama.

She is an example of a concerned person who has gone one step further - she is a trained community responder with the SCDF, knows basic triage and could be activated if there is an emergency in her vicinity.

Dr Kumar, meanwhile, said that the challenge is cultivating "situational awareness" in all people here.

Some effort has been made to encourage this with SG Secure and the mobile app that was launched along with it. The app can broadcast important alerts during major emergencies and it can also be used to alert the police to incidents or to request help.

The problem is, since there has not been an attack here in recent years, people do not use it regularly, said fellow panellist Remy Mahzam, an associate research fellow at the International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research.

"We can't wait for something to happen before we get up and use this app," he said.

Prof Chan said the real challenge was to engage people with technology on a day-to-day basis: "Everybody needs to realise that you can make a real difference, not just to yourself and your family, but the entire country."
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i have question, not intend to bad name anyone just for common knowledge as normal rakyat .

i know a robbery incident at Tesco Puchong video below :


the place is just few step away from a Pos mini, can the Pos Malaysia police banduan respond to this robbery or they have no right to do it since this is not under his job scope.
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i have question, not intend to bad name anyone just for common knowledge as normal rakyat .

i know a robbery incident at Tesco Puchong video below :


the place is just few step away from a Pos mini, can the Pos Malaysia police banduan respond to this robbery or they have no right to do it since this is not under his job scope.
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First, polis bantuan is not armed.... Second, that is not their scope... E.g. if a customer just exits from a bank and get rob even in front of the bank....the armed guards in the bank cannot do anything even the guards are armed with M16s.... That's protocol

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QUOTE(sukhoi35mk @ Nov 20 2016, 05:22 PM)
First, polis bantuan is not armed.... Second, that is not their scope... E.g. if a customer just exits from a bank and get rob even in front of the bank....the armed guards in the bank cannot do anything even the guards are armed with M16s.... That's protocol
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the arming of polis bantuan is depend on their employer
BSN surely have arms so does KTM and Genting
Poslaju I am not sure

but the million dollar question is what hanppened to the bank guard
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State Dept. approves sale of 40 F/A-18 fighters to Kuwait

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WASHINGTON, Nov. 18 (UPI) -- The U.S. State Department has approved a possible $10.1 billion foreign military sale of 40 F/A-18 aircraft to the government of Kuwait.

The potential purchase includes 32 F/A-18E fighters and 8 F/A-18F aircraft. If Congress approves the whole package, Kuwait will also receive spare engines and modules, 41 AN/APG-79 Active Electronically Scanned Array radars, 44 M61A2 20mm gun systems, and other supporting equipment.

In a statement announcing the State Department's approval, the U.S. Defense Security Cooperation Agency adds Kuwaiti military personnel will also have access to engineering and program support as well as U.S. government and contractor engineering services.

The agency said the potential sale will bolster defensive capabilities for a major non-NATO ally, adding this will lead to political and economic progress in the region.

The Boeing-made F/A-18 Hornet attack aircraft was the first strike fighter designed for the United States Armed Forces. The craft was built for both traditional strike operations in addition to close air support. If the foreign military sale to the government of Kuwait is approved, the country will use the aircraft for homeland defense in addition to replacing aging aircraft.

Prime contractors for the sale include Boeing, Northrop Grumman, Raytheon, and General Electric.

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First, polis bantuan is not armed.... Second, that is not their scope... E.g. if a customer just exits from a bank and get rob even in front of the bank....the armed guards in the bank cannot do anything even the guards are armed with M16s.... That's protocol
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yup

like last 2-3 year indon woman fight with indon husband inside plaza sentral building, polis bantuan (auxiliary) have to step in, like whole squad laugh.gif

if they fight just outside the building like in middle of the road, they probably dgaf

but then they probably kena wallop by the polis bantuan trafik(the ones riding police pickup truck, clamping cars) for obstructing traffic laugh.gif
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China puts army on high alert after fighting in northeastern Myanmar

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SHANGHAI: China has said its army is on high alert after armed groups in Myanmar attacked military and police posts close to their shared border at the weekend and that it is providing shelter for a number of people who fled the fighting.

The official Xinhua news agency said in a report late on Sunday three armed groups simultaneously attacked security posts in the border towns of Muse and Kutkai in Myanmar's northeastern Shan state earlier in the day.

Xinhua, citing unidentified sources, said there were military and civilian casualties but gave no other details.

China's defence ministry said in a statement on its website it hoped that calmness and restraint would be exercised to prevent further escalation.

"The Chinese army is on high alert and will take the necessary measures to safeguard the country's sovereignty and safety, as well as protect the lives and property of Chinese citizens living along the border," the ministry statement said.

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The Chinese embassy in Myanmar urged an immediate ceasefire on Sunday and for stability to be returned to the border region, according to a statement on its website.

The Chinese government was temporarily housing an undisclosed number of Myanmar citizens who crossed the border into China to avoid the fighting, the statement said.

Thousands of people have been displaced by decades of fighting between the military and ethnic armed groups in Shan state, which is home to several large groups operating close to the borders with China and Thailand.

China was infuriated last year when five Chinese people were killed when the fighting spilled over into Chinese territory.

(Reporting by Brenda Goh; Additional reporting by Beijing newsroom; Editing by Paul Tait)

- Reuters
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Taiwan says it plans rescue drills in South China Sea this month

TAIPEI: Taiwan's coastguard has said it plans to hold rescue drills in waters around Taipei's sole territorial holding in the disputed South China Sea at the end of this month, and that the drills could involve its navy.


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The exercises to be held around Itu Aba, known by Taiwan as Taiping, would include drills in rescuing shipwrecked personnel, the coastguard said. More details would be released later, it said in a statement on its website late on Sunday.

"Currently the navy regularly patrols near Taiping Island. We don't rule out the navy playing a supporting role in future humanitarian rescue drills being held near Taiping," the Coast Guard Administration said in the statement.

China, the Philippines, Vietnam, Malaysia and Brunei also have overlapping claims in the South China Sea, through which US$5 trillion in ship-borne trade passes every year.

Taiwan has largely kept out of disputes between China and its neighbours, but the planned drills would be the first since President Tsai Ing-wen took power in May.

In July, a judgment by an international court classified Itu Aba was a rock and not an island, thereby making it ineligible to own a greater economic zone of resources off its coast.

Taiwan's coastguard has had direct oversight of Itu Aba since 2000, when it took over from the Taiwanese military. More than 100 coastguard personnel are stationed on Itu Aba.

China distrusts Tsai and her ruling independence-leaning Democratic Progressive Party, but Beijing has previously maintained that Beijing and Taipei had a common duty to protect Chinese sovereignty in the waterway.

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The United States, Taiwan's only major political ally, criticised former president Ma Ying-jeou for visiting Itu Aba earlier this year because it did not want tensions to escalate in the South China Sea.

(Reporting by J.R. Wu; Editing by Paul Tait)
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Road runway: RSAF Exercise Torrent 2016

We bring you the best of the action from the Republic of Singapore Air Force's Alternative Landing Exercise, codenamed Exercise Torrent. The event was held on November 12th &13th and saw F-15SGs, F-16Cs and F-15D+s participating in simultaneous launches and recoveries from Lim Chu Kang Road and Tengah Air Base.


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the arming of polis bantuan is depend on their employer
BSN surely have arms so does KTM and Genting
Poslaju I am not sure

but the million dollar question is what hanppened to the bank guard
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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 21 2016, 12:25 PM)
Unfortunately no. These troopers are from 2nd Cavalry regiment (Stryker), based in Vilseck, Germany.
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and 40 F/A-18E/F Super Hornets for another USD 10.1 billion. However they may buy less F-15s if they want to include Typhoon... I'm not sure why???

http://www.defensenews.com/articles/kuwait...-into-the-2020s
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they pay "Protection fees" to US as many military people said.
also one of reason is they buy long maintenance packages up to 20 year until Mid life upgrade or SLEP。
but just wanner why so small country like Kuwait & Qatar need so many 4th generation fighter ? even MY much bigger country only few 4 gen fighter also hard to get more unit. really look like is "political buy" even other they buy like Rafale, C-17, Apache etc。。。。what Qatar need C-17 for doing what?
to team up as Arab forces ?

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Navy's size slashed to a dangerous low: UK MPs warn shrunken fleet needs more ships to defend our shores and the Falklands

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The Royal Navy has been shrunk to a ‘dangerous and historic low’ and now does not have enough ships to combat global threats, MPs warn today.

The naval force must be increased if the country is to continue to protect its shores and the Falkland Islands, while contributing to Nato and other commitments, they caution. The current fleet of 19 frigates and destroyers – of which only 17 are usable – is ‘woefully low’ and to cut it any further would be ‘completely unacceptable’, a report concludes.

Compared to 35 ships in 1997, the fleet is ‘way below the critical mass required for the many tasks which could confront it’, the review by the Commons’ defence committee found. The cross-party MPs said: ‘As an island nation, the important of the Royal Navy to UK defence must not be underestimated.

‘The current number of frigates, destroyers and personnel inadequately reflects the potential threats and vulnerabilities facing the UK and its interests overseas.’

The dire assessment comes weeks after it emerged the Ministry of Defence has to refit the engines of all six Type 45 destroyers because they cannot cope with warm seas.

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Navy's size slashed to a dangerous low: UK MPs warn shrunken fleet needs more ships to defend our shores and the Falklands

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if anything that graphic shows how low Russia has sunk...

QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 21 2016, 04:16 PM)
they pay "Protection fees" to US as many military people said.
also one of reason is they buy long maintenance packages up to 20 year until Mid life upgrade or SLEP。
but just wanner why so small country like Kuwait & Qatar need so many 4th generation fighter ? even MY much bigger country only few 4 gen fighter also hard to get more unit.  really look like is "political buy" even other they buy like Rafale, C-17, Apache etc。。。。what Qatar need C-17 for doing what?
to team up as Arab forces ?
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I meant I don't understand why buy Typhoon in addition to all that...

Saudi buying US protection too? Since they are almost fully US equipped whistling.gif
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if anything that graphic shows how low Russia has sunk...
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 21 2016, 06:16 PM)
they pay "Protection fees" to US as many military people said.
also one of reason is they buy long maintenance packages up to 20 year until Mid life upgrade or SLEP。
but just wanner why so small country like Kuwait & Qatar need so many 4th generation fighter ? even MY much bigger country only few 4 gen fighter also hard to get more unit.  really look like is "political buy" even other they buy like Rafale, C-17, Apache etc。。。。what Qatar need C-17 for doing what?
to team up as Arab forces ?
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yeaps.. with their oil $$$, better than losing power and all that $$$ to regional radical islamist

msia hard to get because no $$$ not because of size.. size is irrelevant

yeap.. to join ex north thunder... topkekz

QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 21 2016, 06:23 PM)
Navy's size slashed to a dangerous low: UK MPs warn shrunken fleet needs more ships to defend our shores and the Falklands

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The Royal Navy has been shrunk to a ‘dangerous and historic low’ and now does not have enough ships to combat global threats, MPs warn today.

The naval force must be increased if the country is to continue to protect its shores and the Falkland Islands, while contributing to Nato and other commitments, they caution. The current fleet of 19 frigates and destroyers – of which only 17 are usable – is ‘woefully low’ and to cut it any further would be ‘completely unacceptable’, a report concludes.

Compared to 35 ships in 1997, the fleet is ‘way below the critical mass required for the many tasks which could confront it’, the review by the Commons’ defence committee found. The cross-party MPs said: ‘As an island nation, the important of the Royal Navy to UK defence must not be underestimated.

‘The current number of frigates, destroyers and personnel inadequately reflects the potential threats and vulnerabilities facing the UK and its interests overseas.’

The dire assessment comes weeks after it emerged the Ministry of Defence has to refit the engines of all six Type 45 destroyers because they cannot cope with warm seas.

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i thought they have not new carrier? hmm.gif

QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 21 2016, 06:33 PM)
if anything that graphic shows how low Russia has sunk...
I meant I don't understand why buy Typhoon in addition to all that...

Saudi buying US protection too? Since they are almost fully US equipped whistling.gif
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well, they are focusing on navy the first place

backup, in-case murica abandon them

yeaps, in exchange for oil.. or saudi will hold too much usd
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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 21 2016, 04:33 PM)
if anything that graphic shows how low Russia has sunk...
I meant I don't understand why buy Typhoon in addition to all that...

Saudi buying US protection too? Since they are almost fully US equipped whistling.gif
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i see in other report is due to US don't approval to sell F15EF/F18EF to kuwait/qatar is due to Israel objection also possible anti Arab faction in US,
so kuwait buy Typhoon and Qatar buy Rafale to give US pressure. but since Trump win President, he will sell anyway, so better approve it for now.
Saudi already pay protection so long ago as US bigger arm sell , even there US base。

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Blast From the Past: Sweden Dusts Off Cold War Missile System



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According to Mike Winnerstig, security policy analyst at the Swedish Defense Research Agency, this decision embodied Sweden's efforts to boost its defense capabilities.

"If you group together these kinds of systems on Gotland, you can control quite a lot of territory in the mid-Baltic," Mike Winnerstig told the Swedish tabloid newspaper Expressen. Whereas Winnerstig acknowledged that Sweden hardly is a primary goal for Russia, he argued that the price of invading Gotland has increased significantly, calling the missile defense a "tripwire."

In September, Sweden stationed 150 troops on Gotland, to boost the defense of the strategically important island.

"We have about 150 men on Gotland, which is not much. In the past, when you wanted to defend Gotland for real, there were regiments that could mobilize about 25,000 troops to the island's defense. There's a certain difference," Mike Winnerstig told Expressen.


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A city west of Mosul is poised to become the ‘city of revenge’ for Iraq’s powerful Shia militias

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Tal Afar, a city 40 miles west of ISIS-held Mosul, is poised to become “the city of revenge” for Iraq’s powerful Shia militias who were forced out of the city after an insurgency by the Islamic State’s predecessor, al-Qaeda in Iraq, in 2005.

“The scene is set for an extremely dangerous episode to unfold in Tal Afar, between Shia militias, who are seeking revenge for the devastation wrought on them by Sunni jihadists since 2005, and ISIS fighters who, if history is our guide, would prove to be highly capable in their defense of the town,” Gareth Stansfield, a Global Fellow at the Wilson Center and professor of Middle East politics at the University of Exeter, wrote earlier this month.

Shia militiamen backed by Iran — known as the Hashd al-Shaabi — have already begun the move to recapture the strategic city.
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Recapturing Tal Afar from ISIS would mean severing one of the jihadists’ last remaining corridors from Iraq into Syria.

“The worst [ISIS] killers of all come to Tal Afar,” a senior Iraqi official told The Independent on the condition of anonymity earlier this week.

But the city’s liberation will inevitably be tinged by sectarian motivations.

“We are coming to Tal Afar to avenge Hussein,” Qais al-Khazali, the leader of the Asaib Ahl al-Haq Shi’a militia, said in Baghdad last month, referring to the third Imam of Shia Islam.
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Another wild card that could further complicate the impending battle for Tal Afar is Turkey, which feels an obligation not only to protect Sunni Turkmen in the city but also to quell Iran’s influence in northern Iraq and Syria by keeping the Iran-backed Shia militias at bay.

Turkey infuriated Baghdad — and its Russian and Iranian allies — last December when it ignored Iraq’s request to stay out of the Mosul battle and deployed roughly 500 troops to a military base near Bashiqa, Iraq, to train and advise local forces.

Tensions have been growing between the Turks and the Iraqis ever since.
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“So many actors are focused on preventing a Turkish-Hashd conflict,” Knights said. “Turkey knows that going to war with the Hashd means going to war with a major neighbour, Iraq. Many international actors would work tirelessly to avoid such an outcome before it unfolded – and indeed they are warning and shaping the actions of both Turkey and the Hashd now behind the scenes.”


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The Super Hornets are legacy planes that will be phased out by 2018 in favor of Lockheed Martin F-35 Lightning IIs. The most action these planes have seen took place during the Iraq War, when they acted as strike planes and helped with aerial refueling. Outside of the warzone, however, they look a lot calmer.


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Monday, 21 November 2016 | MYT 4:05 PM

AG Report: Unqualified contractors blamed for delay in Mindef's Sukhoi service centre project

BY RAHIMY RAHIM

PETALING JAYA: The construction of a RM73mil service technical centre (STC) for the maintenance of Sukhoi SU-30MKM fighter aircraft at TUDM Gong Kedak, Terengganu Air base was less than satisfactory, according to the 2015 Auditor-General's Report (Series 2).

The report revealed that a slow construction progress during the first 10 months which resulted in a takeover by a nominated sub-contractor on Jan 15 last year.

"The progress of the project within the first 10 months between March and Dec 2014, was not satisfactory as it only reached 3.3% progress compared to its target of 39.1% based on the actual working schedule," said the report.

The construction of the centre was part of the Government's obligation under a countervailing programme for the acquisition of Sukhoi SU-30MKM fighter aircraft which includes an issuance of aircraft components with the Federal State Unitary Enterprise (Rosoboronexport), Russia.

The project consisted of a hangar building, ADZ bay, POL store, AGSV/E garage, shelter, ramp service, apron area and a special equipment procurement site.

The Defence Ministry (Mindef) on Apr 15 had engaged the Public Works Department (JKR) as the implementing agency for the project.

"The construction of the STC is to ensure that Sukhoi SU-30MKM fighter aircraft will always be at an optimum level to be operated during mission or training purposes," said the report.

The Ministry of Finance Malaysia (MOF) had appointed Sharikat Pembenaan Setia Jaya Sdn Bhd (SPSJ) as the contractor, with a contract value of RM71.49mil through a "Design and Build" approach.

"SPSJ was selected via a restricted tender process and a Letter of Award was granted on March 10, 2014 followed by a formal contract which was signed on July 7, 2014 within a completion period of 78 weeks.

The report noted that the appointment of an unqualified and financially unsound contractor had affected project implementation and progress.


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not surprising... inb4 rm2 paid up company
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Popular Mobilization Units Complete Encirclement of Mosul (Documentary)



Following the liberation of Tal Afar Airbase, the Iraqi Popular Mobilization Units (PMU) have launched an operation to liberate the key town of Tal Afar from the ISIS terrorist group. With the liberation of Tal Afar, ISIS terrorists will be completely cut off from all aid, support and reinforcement from its allies in Syria.

SouthFront is releasing documentary footage from this operation with help from the Popular Mobilization units Media Team.

Thanks to Islamic World News and TAHA.K for the Mosul operation map used in the first part of the video.

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Nov 21 2016, 08:34 PM)
not surprising... inb4 rm2 paid up company
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seriously not think wrong RM2 company, that is minimum money to register company,
just for register company, not much people want register company not much care how much to register company.
not different with RM100 or RM1000 register company,
importance is after done register company, how many fund inject to company.
maybe gov need change rule minimum 1 million to register company?

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this is between JKR more then Mindef
JKR has asked the company to repair all the damages and problems
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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 21 2016, 11:27 PM)
seriously not think wrong RM2 company, that is minimum money to register company,
just for register company, not much people want register company not much care how much to register company.
not different with RM100 or RM1000 register company, 
importance is after done register company, how many fund inject to company.
maybe gov need change rule minimum 1 million to register company?
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while that's true... paid up capital means funds injected upon incorporation.. and unlike other forms of capital injection, etc loans, loan from shareholders, bonds.. paid up capital has to be proven in cash @ bank acct nt inclusive of borrowings...
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Jom datang shopping: Announcing IMDEX Asia 2017 - 16 to 18 May 2017 in Singapore



For close to two decades, IMDEX Asia has served the maritime defence community by providing the ultimate avenue for high-profile stakeholders, key industry players and naval engineering professionals to network, exchange ideas and do business.

Organised by Experia Events Pte Ltd and supported by the Republic of Singapore Navy and the Defence Science and Technology, the event is recognised globally as a choice platform for the industry to address challenges, co-create solutions and stay abreast of the latest trends and technologies.

The next edition of IMDEX Asia, the 11th in the series, will be held from 16-18 May 2017 in Singapore at the Changi Exhibition Centre.
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seriously not think wrong RM2 company, that is minimum money to register company,
just for register company, not much people want register company not much care how much to register company.
not different with RM100 or RM1000 register company, 
importance is after done register company, how many fund inject to company.
maybe gov need change rule minimum 1 million to register company?
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The issue is not with the paid up capital itself

The issue is that awarding the contract to a company like that is either simply giving it to some company with no prior history of work or the company is a front for somebody else. Both are indicators of cronyism.
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LONDON, Nov. 21 (UPI) -- BAE Systems plans to utilize a bendable titanium alloy inspired by the shells of ironcald beetles to develop future military vehicles.

BAE engineers say the flexible material will allow the suspension to "bounce back" into shape after impact, allowing operators to continue their mission with the vehicle. The material, referred to as "memory metal alloy," was initially developed by the United States Naval Ordnance Laboratory in the 1960s. BAE officials believe their latest project marks the first time it will be used to build an entire suspension system.

"This unique use of memory metals could prove a real game-changer for combat vehicles taking part in operations," BAE Systems Mobility chief Marcus Potter said in a press release. "Being able to adapt to changing situations is hugely important to maintaining effectiveness, and this application of bendable titanium could give armed forces the required flexibility – and survivability -- to complete tasks in challenging areas."

A test team has already constructed a prototype of the system, which builds upon other protections in combat vehicles such as hulls designed to protect passengers from blasts such as mines or improvised explosive devices. A small-scale model was subjected to five powerful explosive tests, and showed significant resilience against them.

BAE Systems officials say the memory metal suspension system could make its appearance on the battlefield within the next 10 years.

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Moscow to create heavy-duty radar station in northwest Russia

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The new station, which will cover a key direction from which the country can be targeted by a missile strike, is intended to complete a missile attack warning system circuit on the perimeter of Russian territory.
Russian defense enterprises are to build a heavy-duty radar station to warn of potential missile strikes on Russia, according to Sergei Boyev, chief executive of the holding company that will construct the missile attack warning system.

The Voronezh-DM type radar station will be deployed in Russia's northwest near the city of Murmansk (1,160 miles north of Moscow), where Boyev says it "will cover the main missile-threat direction" in the western area.

The new station will be able to detect ballistic, space and aerodynamic objects, including cruise missiles.

How the missile attack detection system works

The Voronezh-type radar station allows the Russian Defense Ministry to see, in sectors, what is happening around Russian territory at a distance of up to 3,600 miles (6,000 km).

The station is one of three elements of an integrated missile attack warning system.

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Russia receives first Il-22PP Porubschik electronic countermeasures planes
"The first level concerns space. For example, our Tundra-type satellites, which the Russian Defense Ministry sent into orbit last year, report on the launches of ballistic missiles from potential enemy territory," said a source from Russia's defense industry.

In his words, the Voronezh type radar station, or those equivalent to it, then tracks the warhead's flight trajectory and aims the missile defense systems at the warhead.

"The satellites record the launch and then we must determine where the missile is heading – to Russia or South America. It’s this system that gives the target designation to the antimissile defense systems. And such a radar station covers the distance from St. Petersburg to the U.S. coast," added the source.


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Total Immersion: Watch a Su-33 Blast Off From Admiral Kuznetsov in 360 Video



The spherical video shows a flight crew hauling a Su-33 to its launching site along the busy deck. The footage then displays another aircraft roaring past the camera onto the sky-jump ramp and taking off into the cloudy skies over the Mediterranean.

Admiral Kuznetsov is part of a naval group deployed to the Syrian shores earlier this month.

Russia's sole aircraft carrier, accompanied by the Pyotr Veliky battle cruiser, the Severomorsk and Admiral Kulakov anti-submarine destroyer and support vessels, was sent to the eastern Mediterranean to conduct military exercises and take part in the Moscow-led counterterrorism operation in Syria.

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this is a whole different facilities
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Siapa berminat nak beli Brahim's food product at lower price can buy straight at factory shop in Bandar Baru Bangi. Price on average less RM2 than buy in supermarkets.

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Dewina Food Industries Sdn Bhd
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Siapa berminat nak beli Brahim's food product at lower price can buy straight at factory shop in Bandar Baru Bangi. Price on average less RM2 than buy in supermarkets.

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non staff also can?
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not true, if the cost and quality is justifiable
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Initially it will always seem so, then later on run into difficulties, AG keluar report no one kesah, millions wasted, if pembangkang bongkar jailkan dia... next round start all over again whistling.gif thats the endless cycle of Msian business doh.gif

And of course there is the issue of who is the company fronting for. More money going to the 0.1% while the poor remain poor, so that the bumi policies favouring the 0.1% can continue to "help the disadvantaged" whistling.gif
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non staff also can?
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this is their factory mini shop to cater/promote their products to the masses and pipul can walk in to buy their products
though do note they dun sell the actual army mre but a repackaged commercial version of it

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this is their factory mini shop to cater/promote their products to the masses and pipul can walk in to buy their products
though do note they dun sell the actual army mre but a repackaged commercial version of it

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thanks for sharing... i once bought their briyani... freaking ex
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NATO’s second-largest military power is threatening a dramatic pivot to Russia and China

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Turkey is looking into joining a Chinese- and Russian-led alliance known as the Shanghai Cooperation Organization (SCO), Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan told reporters Sunday at the end of his official tour of Pakistan and Uzbekistan.
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France, Germany, and Belgium — home to Brussels, where the EU is headquartered — have long opposed Turkey’s accession into the EU. Erdogan’s reluctance to sign on to certain membership requirements, and his increasingly authoritarian leadership over Turkey
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“From time to time, we see insults directed at myself, claims that there was no freedom of expression in Turkey,” Erdogan said Sunday.“Meanwhile, terrorists prance around in French, German and Belgian streets. This is what they understand of freedom.”
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“Erdogan feels much more comfortable and at home among the authoritarian regimes of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization rather than facing the scrutiny and criticism of the European family of nations,”
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Joining or even threatening to join the Shangai bloc, moreover — which is heavily influenced by Russia and China — would rattle the West
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“Erdogan knows that the EU views Turkey as critical to staunching the flow of refugees into Europe,” said Koplow of the Israel Policy Forum. “He has a long history of making these types of threats in order to pressure Europe into concessions of various sorts. It’s a gambit that will probably be successful if recent history is any guide.”
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“In theory, SCO membership would not require Turkey’s exit from NATO,” geopolitical expert Ian Bremmer, president of the political risk firm Eurasia Group, told Business Insider on Tuesday. “In practice, however, it would severely strain Ankara’s ties with other NATO members.”
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“Putin will make sure that this is a slow and painful process for Turkey and the transatlantic alliance,” he said. “He knows that as a rogue and dysfunctional NATO ally, Turkey is of greater use to Moscow than as a defector to the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.”


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Russian fighter jet that crashed into the Mediterranean during Syrian operation RAN OUT OF FUEL while waiting for aircraft carrier runway to be repaired

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A Russian jet which crashed into the sea after a reconnaissance  mission in Aleppo ran out of fuel, according to reports.

The MiG 29 was forced to circle the Admiral Kuznetsov carrier after an emergency affected two planes in front of it and the runway had to be repaired.

While it was in the holding area waiting to land, both the plane's engines cut out, and it plummeted into the Mediterranean on November 13.

The pilot, who has been described as experienced, had to use his ejector seat to escape. The wreckage was later recovered from the sea.


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Russian fighter jet that crashed into the Mediterranean during Syrian operation RAN OUT OF FUEL while waiting for aircraft carrier runway to be repaired
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Strange. If the crew immediately felt that the repair works would take longer than the fuel on the fighter would last, why didn't they divert it to Khmeimim air base? The carrier group wouldn't be that far out from shore. confused.gif
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The issue is not with the paid up capital itself

The issue is that awarding the contract to a company like that is either simply giving it to some company with no prior history of work or the company is a front for somebody else. Both are indicators of cronyism.
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well partially not correct, usually mostly still via tender, and in tender document also have list pass project , but at the end capability is other story, every project is different. well not all project give to class A contractor (tier 1 contractor), usually some also give to c,d,e class contractor maybe no have strong capability/resources/financially if facing problem. personally i think Gov should increase those contractor grade with more higher capital in bank, engineering staff, qualification, information technology, etc etc. too low for currently specially for low grade contractor.

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well partially not correct,  usually mostly still via tender, and in tender document also have list pass project ,  but at the end capability is other story, every project is different.  well not all project give to class A contractor (tier 1 contractor), usually some also give to c,d,e class contractor maybe no have strong capability/resources/financially if facing problem.  personally i think Gov should increase those contractor grade with more higher capital in bank, engineering staff, qualification, information technology, etc etc.  too low for currently specially for low grade contractor.
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Yes.

But a Rm2 company is unlikely to have much of a list of past projects.

Tender for what, its all closed anyway, got past project or don't have no one will ever know.

So again the question, why do contracts pass to lower ranked contractors who have difficulty meeting the standard of work. Anak orang la tu. So Msia will always have below standard work, pay higher tender and rectification costs and feed the cronies until you all finally get fed up with the system.
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well partially not correct,  usually mostly still via tender, and in tender document also have list pass project ,  but at the end capability is other story, every project is different.  well not all project give to class A contractor (tier 1 contractor), usually some also give to c,d,e class contractor maybe no have strong capability/resources/financially if facing problem.  personally i think Gov should increase those contractor grade with more higher capital in bank, engineering staff, qualification, information technology, etc etc.  too low for currently specially for low grade contractor.
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DAWN OF EU ARMY: MEPs APPROVE new £420million-a-year SUPER FORCE to defend Europe

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Siapa berminat nak beli Brahim's food product at lower price can buy straight at factory shop in Bandar Baru Bangi. Price on average less RM2 than buy in supermarkets.

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• First three of 11 AS565 MBe Panther helicopters handed over to PT Dirgantara Indonesia

• Deliveries to run through to 2018

• AS565 MBe will bring increased mission capabilities, specifically for anti-submarine warfare missions

Marignane – Airbus Helicopters has delivered the first three of the 11 AS565 MBe Panther helicopters to Indonesia, ahead of contract schedule, at a ceremony at Airbus Helicopters’ headquarters in Marignane, in the presence of representatives from Indonesia’s Ministry of Defence and the Indonesian Navy.

This follows the contract signature in late 2014 with PT Dirgantara Indonesia for 11 AS565 MBe helicopters. The delivery of the remaining helicopters will run through to 2018.

“We are excited to witness the handover of the first three AS565 MBe helicopters to our partner today”, said Janick Blanc, Head of the Panther programme at Airbus Helicopters. “The AS565 MBe has been developed using state-of-the-art processes and this enhanced variant of the Panther will benefit from an increased maximum take-off weight at 4,500kg. This will provide increased mission capabilities, specifically for the anti-submarine warfare missions these rotorcraft are expected to perform”, he added.

Under the agreement, Airbus Helicopters will supply the AS565 MBe helicopters to its Indonesia industrial partner PT Dirgantara Indonesia, who will reassemble and outfit these rotorcraft in-country, acting as the design authority. This will notably cover the installation of the anti-submarine warfare (ASW) suite which includes a dipping sonar and torpedo launch systems, allowing the Indonesian Navy to carry out its most demanding missions.


Read more: http://www.airbushelicopters.com/website/e...nesia_2046.html

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ie. Make AIG pay for the sinking of the Nimitz in case someone drives a submarine into it.
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The Indonesian Air Force is set to receive 6 units EC725 Cougar CSAR from PT. Dirgantara. Photos credit to Adrianus Darmawan.

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Ini Dia EC725 Cougar, Heli Sarpur Baru TNI AU

November 21, 2016 9013
   
Dalam waktu dekat, Skadron Udara 8 yang bermarkas di Lanud Atang Senjaya, Bogor, akan resmi menerima enam heli SAR Tempur baru untuk mengembangkan kekuatannya.

Keenam heli EC725 Cougar  warna hijau kinclong ini sudah standby di hanggar perakitan PT Dirgantara Indonesia, Bandung, Jawa Barat, menunggu jadwal serah-terima.


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they can, but in this scenario (nimitz vs sub)
straight insurance declare BER haha

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i dont think military have insurance for assets hmm.gif

imagine the hell they need to go through if say during some war games and suddenly mishap occured

who will pay for it? sweat.gif

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obviously not for war losses sweat.gif

even during peacetime also... why? the govt just goes and buys another Nimitz lah

if anything, the US Govt is the insurer of AIG, considering it bailed out AIG for USD 180 billion... how many Nimitzes is that again? laugh.gif
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QUOTE(marfccy @ Nov 23 2016, 11:36 PM)
i dont think military have insurance for assets hmm.gif

imagine the hell they need to go through if say during some war games and suddenly mishap occured

who will pay for it? sweat.gif
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the thought came to me while watching Star Wars tongue.gif
I mean.......who would have expected the Death star to be destroyed by a facking Nerf hereder biggrin.gif

Maybe the Emperor thought that he could buy insurance against asteroid collision, then some galactic insurance company thought that it was too big to fail, then BOOM laugh.gif

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The Indonesian Air Force is set to receive 6 units EC725 Cougar CSAR from PT. Dirgantara. Photos credit to Adrianus Darmawan.

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i not see Winches module in top of the door,i wonder how to do rescue? just curious.
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obviously not for war losses sweat.gif

even during peacetime also... why? the govt just goes and buys another Nimitz lah

if anything, the US Govt is the insurer of AIG, considering it bailed out AIG for USD 180 billion... how many Nimitzes is that again? laugh.gif
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but military aircraft(include helos) usually crash rate x3 more than civilian aircraft.
if can insure, sure cost will be very high。
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this is between JKR more then Mindef
JKR has asked the company to repair all the damages and problems
tapi rugi masa la
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of course JKR can only accept the project as finished if they follow spec mahh..quite clear in the design n build contract

as usual..mindef are being use by certain people to award contracts to incompetent crony company..normal day in malaysia..lol

i think without JKR dunno how many defects building will mindef get..lol...later hangar collapse on sukhoi who wanna answer..lel
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i not see Winches module in top of the door,i wonder how to do rescue? just curious.
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the hardpoints ady there can be added later
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 24 2016, 11:31 AM)
of course JKR can only accept the project as finished if they follow spec mahh..quite clear in the design n build contract

as usual..mindef are being use by certain people to award contracts to incompetent crony company..normal day in malaysia..lol

i think without JKR dunno how many defects building will mindef get..lol...later hangar collapse on sukhoi who wanna answer..lel
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 24 2016, 09:31 AM)
of course JKR can only accept the project as finished if they follow spec mahh..quite clear in the design n build contract

as usual..mindef are being use by certain people to award contracts to incompetent crony company..normal day in malaysia..lol

i think without JKR dunno how many defects building will mindef get..lol...later hangar collapse on sukhoi who wanna answer..lel
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its little what mindef can do in the matter
the contract and tender are both under jkr and mof approved the contract
clearly them both jkr and mof fukked up the vetting and tender process

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i not see Winches module in top of the door,i wonder how to do rescue? just curious.
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The winches can be installed later. Here is a pic where the winches already installed. Credit to Remigius Septian.

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Hardpoint for Mk.40 & Mk.66 rockets:

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but military aircraft(include helos) usually crash rate x3 more than civilian aircraft. 
if can insure, sure cost will be very high。
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there's really no point to it

its a bit like asking your 6 year old son to insure his pencils in tadika (if they go missing he pays you for them)

in the first place, when the pencil goes missing you simply buy another

in the second place, even if you do it and your 6 year old son (the 'insurance company') pays for the pencils, you give him his pocket money anyway so there's no point laugh.gif

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jkr themselves are full of shit
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yup...mindef are fuller of shit bro...mindef and OSA coz its tooooo full of shit brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif

QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 24 2016, 09:41 AM)
its little what mindef can do in the matter
the contract and tender are both under jkr and mof approved the contract
clearly them both jkr and mof fukked up the vetting and tender process
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HAHAHAHAHA

u clearly dont have any idea in terms of government procurement..u think shit contractors come from where...lol

MOF...who is the minister of finance bro...HAHAHA icon_idea.gif icon_idea.gif
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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 24 2016, 09:31 AM)
of course JKR can only accept the project as finished if they follow spec mahh..quite clear in the design n build contract

as usual..mindef are being use by certain people to award contracts to incompetent crony company..normal day in malaysia..lol

i think without JKR dunno how many defects building will mindef get..lol...later hangar collapse on sukhoi who wanna answer..lel
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well, it is good that this time not a single cent was paid to the contractor and the JKR was fast to cut the company out

and the main concern in the AG report is why the replacement contractor selection was delayed until 10 months


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QUOTE(shadow_walker @ Nov 24 2016, 12:20 PM)
yup...mindef are fuller of shit bro...mindef and OSA coz its tooooo full of shit brows.gif  brows.gif  brows.gif
HAHAHAHAHA
u clearly dont have any idea in terms of government procurement..u think shit contractors come from where...lol
MOF...who is the minister of finance bro...HAHAHA  icon_idea.gif  icon_idea.gif
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its just same shit different day mang
after puspahanas & some other shit mindef no longer can do their own infras
now jkr take over still same thing all over again that cronyism culture still there
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China, Malaysia militaries launch joint exercise to cement ties

Source China Military Editor Huang Panyue Time 2016-11-23

SELANGOR, Malaysia, Nov. 23 (ChinaMil) -- The China-Malaysia joint military exercise codenamed "Peace and Friendship 2016", kicked off in Selangor of Malaysia on November 22, 2016.

Themed on humanitarian assistance joint operations, the exercise is divided into two phases, namely desktop deduction and actual-troop drill.

Nearly 300 troops in total will be put into the exercise by both sides with 195 Chinese servicepersons, who are from China's Central Military Commission (CMC) departments, the Southern Theater Command and the PLA Hong Kong Garrison.

General Fang Fenghui, member of China's Central Military Commission (CMC) and chief of the Joint Staff Department under the CMC, and Chief of the Malaysian Defense Force General Zulkifeli Bin Mohd Zin attended the exercise opening ceremony, they both delivered a speech at the ceremony.

Fang pointed out in his speech that the Chinese President Xi Jinping attaches great importance to the development of China-Malaysia comprehensive strategic partnership, and the Peace and Friendship-2016 joint military exercise is an important measure to implement the consensus reached by leaders of the two countries.

The exercise also serves as an important mechanism to promote the exchange and cooperation between the two miltaries, an important approach to improve their combat capability and an important platform for the two militaries to jointly cope with challenges and safeguard regional peace and stability, Fang said.

Fang hopes that the two militaries can make continuous joint efforts in combating terrorism, addressing maritime threats, safeguarding maritime security and promoting regional peace and stability.

China has always advocated peaceful resolution of disputes through friendly consultations and negotiations, Fang continued.

We have consistently opposed interference and undermining of the peace and stability in the South China Sea by any outside force as well as any actions that may complicate the situation or escalate tensions in the region, stated Fang.

Zulkifeli said in his speech that this joint exercise is a microcosm of the cooperation between China and Malaysia, which shows the friendly relations and the broad prospects of mutually beneficial cooperation between the two nations.

Zulkifeli called the joint exercise as a milestone marking the increasingly strengthened bilateral relations, and he believe that it will help strengthen ties and deepen the friendship between the two militaries and have a significant and profound impact on the relations between the two nations and their militaries.

Fang, Zulkifeli and Sitthichai, director of the joint exercise planning office of the Royal Thai Army Command observed together the jungle survival drill staged by the Chinese and Malaysian participating troops and inspected the joint exercise command post.

Chinese Ambassador to Malaysia Huang Huikang and Lieutenant General Tan Benhong, commander of the PLA Hong Kong Garrison, alsoattended the above-mentioned activities.


http://english.chinamil.com.cn/view/2016-1...ent_7373797.htm
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Indon defense will have to factor this development of PRC military nearer to their shore ... with or against them?
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Hong Kong customs seize shipment of nine armoured military vehicles from Taiwan bound for Singapore

Sources say it may be one of the biggest seizures of strategic commodities in two decades; details about owner, sender and consignee still being investigated

Nine armoured military vehicles, along with components and accessories, have been confiscated by Hong Kong customs in a routine inspection at the Kwai Chung terminal, marking one of the biggest seizure of strategic commodities in two decades.
Preliminary investigation showed the consignment was being shipped from Taiwan to Singapore, the Post has learned.
“Hong Kong was not its final destination. It is not known why the consignment was unloaded here,” a government source with knowledge of the matter said.


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clear is SG Terrex 8x8, news from TWsaid use in taiwan for training, after traning ship back to SG, but cargo ship go to HK for other cargo shipment, not plan upload those vehicles, but not sure why those cargo ship off load to port. than get HK custom seize.

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‘Provocation’: Bangladesh Buys Chinese Weapons to Irritate India, Experts Say

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ANKARA, Turkey, Nov. 22 (UPI) -- Turkish defense company Roketsan has delivered a new surface-to-surface guided missile system to the country's military.

The 303mm guided missile is the Kasirga, or Hurricane, which was developed by Roketsan engineers.

"The Kasirga is a system developed entirely by Roketsan and has an extreme accuracy up to 120-kilometer [about 75 mile] range," Defense Minister Fikri Işık said at a delivery ceremony. "Turkey has become a country that meets its needs with domestic and national opportunities as it also develops these technologies and sells them to friendly and brotherly countries."

The truck-mounted missile is intended to provide fire support to maneuvering units, Roketsan said.

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In 2016, the active component of the U.S. Army of 479,000 soldiers shrank to the smallest it has been since before World War II, when it had some 269,000. The number of Army combat brigades is scheduled to decline to 30 by 2018, one third fewer than there were just in 2013. The U.S. Navy, with 273 ships, is about the same size as it was prior to America’s entry into World War I.
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The U.S. Navy, with 273 ships, is about the same size as it was prior to America’s entry into World War I. At approximately 5,000 total aircraft, the U.S. Air Force is both the smallest and oldest it has been since its inception in 1947. The number of active duty squadrons in the Air Force is slated to decline to 39, less than half of the 70 that were available during Operation Desert Storm.
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The number of active duty squadrons in the Air Force is slated to decline to 39, less than half of the 70 that were available during Operation Desert Storm. Army, Navy and Air Force end strengths are each about 40 percent smaller than they were at the end of the Cold War.
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This is one of the main reasons why the Pentagon had to rely on more than a hundred thousand private contractors to provide the necessary logistics, sustainment and communications for its deployed forces when it went to war in Iraq and Afghanistan.
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Thus, a two-MRC U.S. force would consist of 10 Army divisions, two or three division-sized Marine Expeditionary Forces, 11 aircraft carriers, 120 large surface combatants, 38 large amphibious warfare ships, 200 strategic bombers, 60 tactical fighter wings, 400–500 tankers, 250 airlifters and some 75 maritime support ships.
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Both Russia and China have invested heavily in so-called anti-access and area denial capabilities (A2/AD) that are designed to counter erstwhile U.S. advantages, particularly in air and naval power. Russia is deploying its A2/AD capabilities in ways that could preclude U.S. and NATO military operations in the Baltic, Black and eastern Mediterranean Seas.
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North Korea, a nuclear weapons state, has already deployed over a thousand ballistic missiles -- three hundred of which have the range to strike Japan and U.S. bases in the Western Pacific. Iran has ballistic missiles that can reach most of the Middle East. Tehran just received its first Russian S-300 air defense system. Hezbollah, the Shiite terrorist group, is reported to have an arsenal with tens of thousands of rockets and ballistic missiles. ISIS has employed Russian-made anti-tank guided missiles capable of destroying U.S.-made M-1 tanks operated by the Iraqi Army.
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China has become the latest country to successfully test fire a hypersonic missile, it has been claimed.

A Chinese J-16 strike fighter test-fired the giant missile earlier this month, successfully destroying the target drone at a very long range, according to Popular Science.

Its experts analysed pictured of the launch, and concluded the missile was  19 feet long, and roughly 13 inches in diameter, meaning it could hit targets up to 300 miles away.
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The pair analysed photos of a J16 taking off with two of the very long range air to air missile (VLRAAM)

'Reports are that the size would put into the category of a very long range air to air missile (VLRAAM) with ranges exceeding 300 km (roughly 186 miles), likely max out between 250 and 310 miles.'


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It showed a VLRAAM, flying 15 km upward once it is released by a fighter jet, reaching a 30 km altitude.


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Helikopter Bell 412 TNI AD Hilang Kontak di Malinau, Kalimantan Utara

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TEMPO.CO, Samarinda - Badan SAR Nasional (Basarnas) Kantor SAR Balikpapan, Kalimantan Timur, membenarkan kabar adanya helikopter TNI-Angkatan Darat (TNI-AD) jenis Bell 412 EP yang hilang kontak pada Kamis, 24 November 2016. Helikopter diketahui terbang dari Bandara Juwata Kota Tarakan, Kalimantan Utara pada pukul 10.54 WITA.

Kepala Seksi Operasional Basarnas Kantor SAR Balikpapan, Octavianto, tak membantah kabar itu. Tim SAR Balikpapan saat ini tengah menggelar rapat bersama TNI di Kota Tarakan.

"Ya, kami juga dengar kabar itu, sesuai dengan undang-undang untuk transportasi militer mesti ada request (pencarian) dari TNI, sekarang sedang rapat kecil antara Basarnas dan TNI di Tarakan," kata Octavianus yang dihubungi dari Samarinda, Kalimantan Timur, Kamis, 24 November 2016.

Dari data pesawat diketahui helikopter dengan registrasi penerbangan HA-5166 itu yang bertindak sebagai pilot adalah Letnan Satu (Cpn) Yohanes Syahputera. Helikopter berisi empat kru yang mengangkut logistik ke perbatasan.

Tujuan penerbangan dari Bandara Juwata Kota Tarakan menuju Desa Long Bawan, Kabupaten Malinau. Bertolak dari Juwata pada 10.54 WITA dan diperkirakan mendarat di Long Bawan pada pukul 11.50 WITA.

Pada pukul 10.57 WITA, helikopter kontak terakhir dengan Tarakan Tower dan diarahkan untuk kontak ke Malinau Tower. Pada pukul 11.16 WITA kontak pertama dengan Malinau Tower. Heli tersebut kontak terakhir pada pukul 11.29 WITA dengan Malinau Tower pada posisi 8 Naitical Mile (sekitar 19 kilometer) dari Malinau.

Sampai saat ini posisi helikopter masih belum di ketahui. "Kapan pun kami diminta berangkat (pencarian) kami siap," kata Octavianus.


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doubt they carry ammo along with the vehicle

though the very important issue is the terrex's network bms and signal equipment
if really got then the whole saf battle network and comm is compromised.. really jialat
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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 24 2016, 08:34 PM)
doubt they carry ammo along with the vehicle

though the very important issue is the terrex's network bms and signal equipment
if really got then the whole saf battle network and comm is compromised.. really jialat

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QUOTE(DDG_Ross @ Nov 24 2016, 08:34 PM)
doubt they carry ammo along with the vehicle

though the very important issue is the terrex's network bms and signal equipment
if really got then the whole saf battle network and comm is compromised.. really jialat
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Damm, if is were unloaded at any malaysia port..........
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QUOTE(James831 @ Nov 24 2016, 10:53 PM)
Damm, if is were unloaded at any malaysia port..........
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msia port ok, not like msia can do anything... now at hk port, i think x-rayed scanned and copied already.... soon to have prc version
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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 24 2016, 05:54 PM)
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will this affect their chance for usmc acv/apc project? terrex is in the final together with BaE
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QUOTE(patt_sue @ Nov 25 2016, 01:02 AM)
will this affect their chance for usmc acv/apc project? terrex is in the final together with BaE
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Speaking of which, here's a Terrex 3 prototype at a USMC exhibition in September

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Czechoslovak Group signs USD39 million deal with Indonesia

Jiri Kominek, Prague - IHS Jane's Defence Weekly
24 November 2016
 
Czechoslovak Group, the largest conglomerate of defence manufacturers in the Czech Republic and Slovakia, has secured a deal for the sale of an undisclosed number of Tatra military vehicles, Steyr Pandur II 8x8 armoured personnel carriers, and General Dynamics M3 amphibious bridging and ferrying systems to the Indonesian military.

The group's spokesperson, Andrej Cirtek, told reporters that the value of the deal, which was signed with the Indonesian government on 24 November, exceeds CZK1 billion (USD39 million). However, Cirtek did not provide further details about the equipment being procured by Jakarta.

Czechoslovak Group has an exclusive agreement with General Dynamics European Land Systems (GDELS) to produce, maintain, and market the Steyr Pandur II 8x8 group of armoured vehicles in Central and Eastern Europe as well as in selected Asian markets along with other platforms produced by GDELS.


http://www.janes.com/article/65745/czechos...-with-indonesia

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 25 2016, 09:27 AM)
x-rayed  biggrin.gif  custom use x-ray can penetrate the armored skin  hmm.gif still they not mention the military personnel involve just only HK custom , it will be release very soon SG & HK are best friend, unless PLA come in disturb the process. 
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well, prc is no.1 for reverse engineering, never underestimate them...


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The Navy’s most advanced warship just broke down for the second time in 2 months

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The US Navy’s most technologically advanced warship broke down while transiting through the Panama Canal, the second setback for the $4 billion ship in the last two months.

The propulsion system of the USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) had problems while passing through the canal and had to be towed in to the former naval station Rodman in Panama, according to Defense News. A spokesperson for the Navy wouldn’t say how long repairs would take, but one defense official told USNI they could take up to 10 days.

The official also said the Zumwalt made contact with the canal’s walls after the engineering problem, resulting in minor cosmetic damage.

The ship previously suffered an engineering malfunction in September that took around two weeks to fix. It also had “unspecified engineering trouble” right around the time it arrived at Naval Station Mayport, Florida, in late October, according to USNI.

The Zumwalt is the Navy’s newest warship. It’s packed with plenty of top-shelf electronics and networking features, which allows the larger ship to run on a smaller crew than usual. Zumwalt is still in its sea trials phase, and is planned to be fully integrated into the fleet sometime in 2017 or 2018.

Two other Zumwalt-class ships are still being built, the USS Michael Monsoor and the USS Lyndon B. Johnson, at Bath Iron Works in Maine.

The ship was on its way back to its home port in San Diego when this latest incident occurred, according to Portland Press Herald.

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Nov 25 2016, 08:52 AM)
The Navy’s most advanced warship just broke down for the second time in 2 months

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The US Navy’s most technologically advanced warship broke down while transiting through the Panama Canal, the second setback for the $4 billion ship in the last two months.

The propulsion system of the USS Zumwalt (DDG-1000) had problems while passing through the canal and had to be towed in to the former naval station Rodman in Panama, according to Defense News. A spokesperson for the Navy wouldn’t say how long repairs would take, but one defense official told USNI they could take up to 10 days.

The official also said the Zumwalt made contact with the canal’s walls after the engineering problem, resulting in minor cosmetic damage.

The ship previously suffered an engineering malfunction in September that took around two weeks to fix. It also had “unspecified engineering trouble” right around the time it arrived at Naval Station Mayport, Florida, in late October, according to USNI.

The Zumwalt is the Navy’s newest warship. It’s packed with plenty of top-shelf electronics and networking features, which allows the larger ship to run on a smaller crew than usual. Zumwalt is still in its sea trials phase, and is planned to be fully integrated into the fleet sometime in 2017 or 2018.

Two other Zumwalt-class ships are still being built, the USS Michael Monsoor and the USS Lyndon B. Johnson, at Bath Iron Works in Maine.

The ship was on its way back to its home port in San Diego when this latest incident occurred, according to Portland Press Herald.

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got problems even after launch?
US defence department pun pandai songlap ka apa ni?

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QUOTE(Zaryl @ Nov 25 2016, 08:54 AM)
got problems even after launch?
US defence department pun pandai songlap ka apa ni?
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Lots of technology in the zumwalt class was not mature.
They went crazy on the technology leaps result huge risk involved in the project.
The cost overrun were huge till it breach Nunn–McCurdy Amendment thus forcing the navy to cancel off 29 ship and only plan to build 3 ship.
3 ship will have several cost cutting like removal of spy4 radar and bmd capability.