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post Dec 22 2016, 09:30 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Dec 21 2016, 10:58 PM)
kazak plane?  hmm.gif
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indeed this belongs to Khazakstan... the red star is a different compared to RuAF's red star
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post Jan 4 2017, 10:40 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Dec 30 2016, 02:01 PM)
I like design, very suitable for MMEA or RMN as patrol boat too. should be able to provided endurance 3 day in sea。
seems Indo shipyard able to design/built so many modern patrol boat, but our shipyard no have this capability 。。。
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they have to come up with innovation. else these yards will die. literally hundreds of shipyards can be found in Batam alone. and offshore jobs are hard to come by nowadays. it's the survival of the fittest i guess
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post Jan 4 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 4 2017, 02:41 PM)
that shoulder patch though blink.gif blink.gif
CEKENIT!!
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post Jan 11 2017, 12:58 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Jan 11 2017, 12:09 PM)
The Indonesian Navy inducted 3 new Fast Patrol Boats 45 meters KRI Tatihu 853, KRI Layaran 854 and KRI Madidihang 855 to its Eastern Fleet. The 3 Fast Patrol Boats were built by local shipyard PT Palindo Marine Batam.

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if only our shipbuilding capability and our budget are on par with Indonesia....
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post Jan 12 2017, 02:44 PM

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QUOTE(Gregyong @ Jan 12 2017, 06:44 AM)
Our m4A1s are pretty similar to the USMC ones, unless you count the one in /k tongue.gif
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nope. USMC use M16A4. Long barrel, select fire, full picatinny rail, non-collapsible buttsotck. M4A1 is short barrel, select fire, collapsible buttstock
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post Jan 24 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Jan 24 2017, 08:22 AM)
Defense security news TV weekly navy army air forces industry army military equipment January 2017 3


Summary January 2017 Episode 3: 16 to 20 January 2017

- 00:11 NTGS from Spain won first export contract for its Alakran light mobile 120mm mortar system.
- 01:10 Israeli Air Force received first Arrow 3 anti-ballistic air defense missile system.
- 02:04 Indian army parade in New Delhi January 17, 2017.
- 03:26 Thailand will purchase a total of 49 VT4 main battle tanks from China.
- 04:28 U.S. Army M1 Abrams tanks and Bradley IFVs deployed in Poland perform first live firing.
- 05:20 Indonesia approves purchase of five Airbus A400M military airlifters
- 06:19 BAE Systems developing groundbreaking "atmospheric spy lens" for surveillance missions
- 07:05 Russia & Turkey conduct first joint bombing mission against Daesh
- 08:05 French MoD Orders a Fourth B2M Multi Mission Vessel from Kership for Marine Nationale
- 09:09 Thales contracted to deliver Royal Navy's new airborne surveillance and control capability CROWSNEST
- 10:36 Raytheon SM-6 missile cleared for export
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Manyak syiok tu mortar system. Cheaper than AMOS system
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post Feb 1 2017, 10:26 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Jan 29 2017, 09:17 PM)
i think Gov (mmea?) have serious problem on management those boat include tourists boat。
- All boat should include radio on new boat in first place during purchasing, specially tourists boat...  news said tourists boat is no radio comms. Skipper make report after swing to coast
- ban boat out to sea on bad weather (base on sea stage) ... (new said is bad weather) 
- overload ?look news is very small catamaran boat 。。。 dont see can fit 30+ people。
i know is pass AIS implementation also hv many issue。
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Marine Department's jurisdiction to enforce the rules.
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post Feb 3 2017, 03:40 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 3 2017, 03:26 PM)
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Courtesy of MalaysianDefence  laugh.gif
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ni kalau dia spam, 2a7 pun tekincit! rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 7 2017, 01:34 PM

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QUOTE(numbprick @ Feb 6 2017, 04:08 PM)
relek why so defensive and easily aggrivated?

let's see if the first kapal selam KD Tuanku Abdul Rahman will do a public display at LIMA 2017 since we have 2 and KD Tun Razak can continue to roam our waters.

by then all answers be known?
sources of news here ...

http://www.malaysiandefence.com/kd-tar-undergoing-refit/

and the tax payers have to pay RM 1.323 billions to refit the 2 submarines  ohmy.gif
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lemme give u an analogy to how expensive it is to carry out refit of subs.
i'm working for a small harbour tug company. normally, our 30m, 3000 hp - 4000 hp tugs will go to dock for refit, overhaul and deep maintenance every 5 years. lucky that it's a tug with no long propeller shaft - thus can do docking every 5 years.
for vessels with long propeller shaft, they MUST carry out docking every 2.5 years MAX - take out propeller, tail shaft, overhaul main engines, generators bla bla bla.
on my part, my budget can easily go between RM2 mil to RM2.5 mil per vessel every 5 years. our spare parts are commercially available off the shelf items. our tugs are single hull - no pressure hull whatsoever. subs has at 2 hulls, outer and pressure hull. 6 layers of paint that can last for 60 months, no anechoic coating - i don't know how many anechoic coats does a sub have.
to carry out major overhaul on a main engine + spares costs my company easily north of RM150k, and 1 have 2 engines. damn!!
now, bring that to a sub...
outer hull need to remove anechoic coating, reapply new one. lucky if no steel renewal works. pressure hull need to be inspected inch by inch. my tugs doesn't need that.
steel need to degausse, navigation instrument needs to remove, calibrate, renew if necessary, put back in the sub. engines need to overhaul - damn u mirrlees blackstone! engine mounts need to change, pipings need to change. @LTZ, u all use #40 or #80 for sea water pipes?
combat information system need to upgrade - not COTS items.
apa lagi...?
kira la sendiri all the costs. then u know...

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post Feb 7 2017, 01:52 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 7 2017, 01:42 PM)
I know rite? Some people probably think buying military assets is like buying Red Alert 2 units kot? Sekali dapat guna sampai kong or destroyed in battle. laugh.gif

Actually military vehicles very maintenance-heavy, due to them usually operating full power in hard terrain or hostile environments. Car go short distances on very good roads, so not manitenance-intensive to operate. Meanwhile a military vehicle usually goes off-roads for very long distances. For example for every hour an Abrams tank is operated, 3 hours are spent on its maintenance and repair.

Imagine is cars need that kind of care. Scary. rclxub.gif
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they don't have the least idea how expensive military stuff are, except of course green tip m855.
kapal x refit go condemn, kapal refit condemn y so expensive.
kapal x belayar, condemn y kapal tied up alongside, kapal belayar kondem y belayar so much save la a bit running hours for actual stuff, save a bit bajet.
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post Feb 7 2017, 02:46 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 7 2017, 02:11 PM)
Dont you think it would help if every year Mindef posts a proper annual report indicating exactly how much what costs, what is the projected future expenditure for what assets, etc rather than surprising people with requests for money and not revealing how, where, when and why it is used because of "top secret readiness military secret" rolleyes.gif

Typically getting info from Mindef even for veteran reporter like Msiandefence is like squeezng blood from stone... but of course we all know there's lots of good reasons why close public scrutiny of Mindef spending would not be encouraged whistling.gif
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i'd be glad if i can get the figures too. at least smart spending, not spending buta2 like there's no limit to ur bajet.
i'm all for the betterment of the armed forces, not for the betterment of some pipul's poket. if u get my drift brows.gif brows.gif
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post Feb 8 2017, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(atreyuangel @ Feb 7 2017, 09:49 PM)
aik terasa??  laugh.gif
makan cili ka? lol
nantikan majalah baru tak lama lagi~
tak lama lagiiii...
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bang, tempur punya team dah pupus betul da eh?
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post Feb 8 2017, 09:59 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 7 2017, 06:30 PM)
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But where's the famous FAMAS?
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famas suda mau kna buang kan... deswai they train with m16a1
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post Feb 8 2017, 01:36 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Feb 8 2017, 01:25 PM)
Damn, Tempur my favorite local defence magazine.... cry.gif

Somehow the articles in Perajurit don't interest me at all.
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Setakat browse thru perajurit tu rajin la, kalau nk beli mmg NO! haha
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post Feb 20 2017, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(greghome @ Feb 20 2017, 04:24 PM)
Sie mussin lernen deutsch
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Das ist hangul, nicht deutsch
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post Feb 22 2017, 10:02 AM

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QUOTE(Fat & Fluffy @ Feb 21 2017, 06:46 PM)
ada vtec?  hmm.gif
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mivec ada la tuuu
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:31 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 22 2017, 10:17 PM)
no current in service naval vessel has the same design as the one China showcased. heck, no one holds the patent for trimaran vessel.
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Feb 22 2017, 01:54 PM)
haah?
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mungkin dia nk kata sbb stabiliti kot...?
tp PT91 mmg has the lowest silhouette amongst modern MBTs
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post Feb 24 2017, 10:42 AM

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QUOTE(lordy @ Feb 24 2017, 10:38 AM)
you will be very suprise at the rate that the chinese navy deploy their military vessels, just look at the 052D and 054D alone, simply fantastically fast in deployment!

so much so that the navy can not cope with it and some of these vessels are given to coast guard service
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i am very much aware of that. but this guy was saying the China copied the trimaran design from somebody else. no one holds the patent from trimaran ships. it's not about copying, rather the trend of naval vessel designs
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post Feb 24 2017, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Feb 24 2017, 11:32 AM)
Basically extended USS Independence with no mission bay, leaving more room for missiles

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from outside bole sama. any naval architect worth their money can design a ship, be it monohull, cat or trimaran. any shipyard with enough expertise can build them. any ship can appear the same externally.
shipbuilding isn't like aircraft manufacturing anyway...

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