dafuq..

no wonder so many like ali tinju

no wonder yer post got deleted earlier lol
pls dun bring unnecessary topic into this tered k?

This post has been edited by DDG_Ross: Mar 15 2017, 02:36 AM

Usually for the officers they'll start giving you contract after reach pension eligibility. Pros and cons for that too.

Agreed. I believe RAW numbers should at least be at par with regular units.

Also, is it really that advantageous to have long service terms, up to 20+ years? IMHO ATM should reduce fixed service terms to around 10 years, but at the same time make easier to extend service contract. I think that period is enough to train and professionalize the enlisted men and junior officers, but still can keep the military age average down (war is a young man's game) and at the same time, keep the really old-timer professional hands if you need them. These types of people will usually re-enlist when they can anyway.

For 'lain-lain pangkat(llp)'their retirement is based on duration of service, not the age... Their initial service contract is 12 years and can be extended until 15 years, 18 years or 21 years based on several criteria. Only who'd served for 21 years will receive a pension

for officer the retirement age is based on age
-captain and below - 45 years
- mejar - 50 years
- liutenant colonel - 52 years
- colonel and special officer (eg. doctors) - 55 years

so,if youre stuck at the a captain rank at the age of 45,you'll be forced to retire.

This is 10 years ago info based on Akta Angkatan Tentera... Its probably already changed/amended now...

This post has been edited by patt_sue: Mar 15 2017, 08:27 AM

its weird some post got deleted but some let go

and stop quote ppl

u make them appear

they can't in front liner but can't transfer to like army/navy training camp as instructor ? so can work untill 55 age?

This post has been edited by waja2000: Mar 15 2017, 09:22 AM

Butthurt sia

hi vape on

Dafuq is this MKLMS

Discussion about Msia "national service" (insert dr evil meme) is not constructive and off topic?!?!?!?!!

Its perfectly valid to discuss it in context of how much (if any) training it actually provides to Msians, whether it can be relied on to supply any kind of reserve bodies or is somewhat, partially, or completely useless from a MILITARY perspective....!

Inb4 cannot discuss SG National Service, not related to "military"?!?!?!?! Come on lah

lol... who says so.. if by 40yo+ you're super fat, fail ippt, unmotivated they will ask you to bye bye... for officers if you cant reach ltc by then its also bye bye.. for enlisted at least 3wo.. but of course once in a while we would have a high ranking fat ns officer


fat and short, doubt he can even get a silver in ippt... and surprising thing is he's a commander not staff... of course beyond his physic, he definitely have the qualities of a leader... if he's fitter they would had made him a general i think... very hard to find muslim officers of such qualities in the saf

read bout him;

http://blog.moneysmart.sg/lifestyle/ismail...ate-agency-ceo/

wong siew kum!! one general one colonel... head wear crest also diff what... shoulder epaulet also diff



make sense

lol... this is /k what do you expect... dun like just ignore, if not just continue posting and rolling..

please dont bring ali tinju in this
he's not even lasted 5 years in the army
kick out from the forces due to disciplinary issues

45 for grunt is usually minimum retirement.

jangan lawan pemegang mighty banhammer

u only have senapang air, the banhammer holder have nuke arsenal

beware lulz

Let's not generalize the action of a few person to the whole group.

Gentlemen, please keep the discussion civil, polite and on topic.

This post has been edited by MKLMS: Mar 15 2017, 02:16 PM

lol triggered, nice job TS.You want circlejerk your sg stuff make your own thread.

China begins new work on disputed South China Sea island

HONG KONG: China has started fresh construction work in the disputed South China Sea, new satellite images show, a sign that Beijing is continuing to strengthen its military reach across the vital trade waterway.

Regional military attaches and experts believe the work shows China's determination to build up its network of reefs and islets, even if it is seeking to avoid a fresh confrontation with the new administration of U.S. President Donald Trump.



An image of North Island in the Paracels group taken on March 6 shows recent work including land clearing and possible preparation for a harbour to support what experts believe may be eventual military installations. Initial work was damaged in a typhoon last year.

The pictures, provided by private satellite firm Planet Labs, follow reports in January showing work undertaken on nearby Tree Island and other features in the Paracels, which are also claimed by Vietnam and Taiwan.

Diplomats briefed on latest Western intelligence assessments say Beijing is pursuing efforts to dominate its maritime 'backyard', even if it tweaks the timing of moves to avoid being overtly provocative.

"The Paracels are going to be vital to any future Chinese attempt to dominate the South China Sea," said Carl Thayer, a South China Sea expert at Australia's Defence Force Academy.

"We can see they are committed to militarisation, whatever the official rhetoric tells us, even if they are going to do it bit by bit."

UNCERTAINTIES OVER TRUMP

The more widely disputed Spratlys archipelago to the south are higher profile but the Paracels are key to China’s presence in the South China Sea,

China has in recent years temporarily based surface-to-air missile launchers and crack jet fighters at long established bases on Woody Island on the Paracels, helping protect its nuclear submarine facilities on Hainan Island.



North Island is part of an arc of reefs that are expected to form a protective screen for Woody, which includes civilian facilities and a listening post.

Zhang Baohui, a mainland security expert at Hong Kong's Lingnan University, said he believed China was pursuing long-held goals of strengthening its facilities in the Paracels, and had calculated the Trump administration would not over-react given other pressing priorities.



"There’s also uncertainty with this young Trump administration, but this is very important work to the Chinese…the Paracels are vital to defending Hainan, which is in turn important to China’s nuclear deterrent," he said.

"The calculation here is that it is really only Vietnam that will be rattled by this."

The Vietnamese Foreign Ministry did not immediately respond to requests for comment.

China's Defence Ministry said it was "not familiar" with any work at North Island.



"What needs to be stressed is that the Xisha Islands are China’s inherent territory," it said, using the Chinese name for the Paracels. China fully occupied the Paracels in 1974 after forcing the navy of the-then South Vietnam off its holdings.

News of fresh Chinese activity comes as Rex Tillerson prepares for his first visit to the region as U.S. Secretary of State later this week. Tillerson sparked alarm in Beijing when he said in January China should not be allowed access to islands it has built in the South China Sea.



A U.S. official, speaking on the condition of anonymity, was unable to confirm new construction work on North Island but said it would not be surprising.

"It would be in line with what they have been doing, why else would they clearing land on the islands but for militarisation," the official said. "There is no other reason to have a presence there."

Diplomatic sources in Beijing say China is not looking for confrontation with the United States over the South China Sea, pointing to China’s low-key reaction to last month’s patrol of a U.S. aircraft carrier strike group in the waters there.



China has recently sought to portray itself as being conciliatory over the disputed waterway, saying it and Southeast Asian nations are committed to a peaceful resolution.

Last week, Chinese Foreign Minister Wang Yi said a draft code of conduct for behaviour in the South China Sea had now been completed and that tensions had "distinctly dropped".

(Additional reporting by Ben Blanchard in BEIJING and Idrees Ali in WASHINGTON; Editing by Lincoln Feast)

- Reuters

KM Bagan Datuk (NGPC)

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wah really? didn't know that.

so he is surely discharge dishonourably. He not entitled to pension kah?

actually what is he defending then? he not even qualify to be part of the army veterans.

Indonesian TNI-AU F-16 jet fighter skids off runway in Pekanbaru





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This post has been edited by KYPMbangi: Mar 15 2017, 02:13 PM

Nope and nope
if you read closer that "Veteren association" where he was president is a organization that was established by him and his peers

no connection what so ever to the real Veteran Association of Malaysia
what's he defending?

simple, all political
he even got monetary aid after the ass dance

This post has been edited by atreyuangel: Mar 15 2017, 02:16 PM