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> Sub 140k C Segment Sedan in Malaysia, Pick your choice

Which C Segment Sedan will you choose?
 
Honda Civic 1.5TC-P [ 98 ] ** [45.79%]
Volkswagen Jetta 1.4 TSI High Spec [ 20 ] ** [9.35%]
Mazda 3 Skyactiv 2.0 High Spec [ 53 ] ** [24.77%]
Kia Cerato 2.0L [ 6 ] ** [2.80%]
Hyundai Elantra 1.8 Premium [ 2 ] ** [0.93%]
Toyota Corolla Altis 2.0 V [ 16 ] ** [7.48%]
Ford Focus Ecoboost 1.5L [ 15 ] ** [7.01%]
Nissan Sylphy 1.8 VL [ 4 ] ** [1.87%]
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post Nov 16 2016, 08:18 PM

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Would get the Jetta but its too plain compared to the Peugeot 408 e-THP

the civic is just too mainstream
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post Nov 16 2016, 08:52 PM

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QUOTE(Ginny88 @ Nov 16 2016, 07:28 PM)
For the price of a high spec C-segment and add a bit more you can get the lowest spec D-segment but it will have a 2.0L engine which is underpowered and it will probably be stripped of gadgets and features.
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Yes, the one advertised is the VTI which is the base model. I wouldn't want to buy that but I'm 6ft 2" so size matter to me. I don't think anyone could sit behind me in a C segment car. Maybe the Sylphy?

In 2011 I decided to buy an Altis. I took it for a test drive and then test drove a few others. I was waiting for a test drive of the Civic Hybrid and expected to buy it when the government changed the tax rules and Honda pulled the Civic Hybrid.

I ended up buying an Accord VTi-L. I don't find it underpowered but it's no sports car. It does 0-100 in 10 seconds which is enough for me but I do sometimes day dream about buying a hot hatch.
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post Nov 17 2016, 12:29 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 16 2016, 05:57 PM)
Ideally I'd want RWD or AWD reliable car which are faster than those above, unfortunately no such car available in the C Segment here unless you go above rm200k or buy old used ones from the early-mid 2000.
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RWD or AWD does not necessarily mean faster, especially not at the segment you're looking at. Even BMW/Merc shifting towards FWD gradually.
If this is what you want you'll have to look into a used Subaru or Mitsu or 3 series.
I own a Focus with the older 2.0 engine. Feels good, handling better than all listed except maybe the new Civic and Mazda. Currently under full service warranty but parts cost a bomb. RV will not be good but I plan to keep it a long time. Mazda engine means cheaper parts there, but everything is expensive now with Ecoboost.

I agree with other forummer, if you want speed then get Preve. Safety is good and always see them bantai corner like GTR.
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(djtong @ Nov 17 2016, 12:29 PM)
RWD or AWD does not necessarily mean faster, especially not at the segment you're looking at. Even BMW/Merc shifting towards FWD gradually.
If this is what you want you'll have to look into a used Subaru or Mitsu or 3 series.
I own a Focus with the older 2.0 engine. Feels good, handling better than all listed except maybe the new Civic and Mazda. Currently under full service warranty but parts cost a bomb. RV will not be good but I plan to keep it a long time. Mazda engine means cheaper parts there, but everything is expensive now with Ecoboost.

I agree with other forummer, if you want speed then get Preve. Safety is good and always see them bantai corner like GTR.
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Yes I know AWD/RWD don't mean faster. I want AWD/RWD due to the different handling behavior as I'm already very bored with FWD cars. Faster means around 300hp/350nm power level. So yeah only used Evos and STIs fit the bill, others don't even come close.

Preve can bantai corner like GTR??? I suppose the Lotus handling thing is real ya? Or like GTR on a leisurely drive la I think. laugh.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 04:39 PM

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preves are not really that fast tbh.... (i mean given ts's budget)
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post Nov 17 2016, 05:11 PM

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renault fluence... reliable car... good discount as at now i guess... 2.0 CVT from Nissan... top spec safety features... and 5 years free services (labour and parts)... and 5 years warranty
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post Nov 17 2016, 09:44 PM

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GT86, used.
Circa 120k

The rest go to BoT+ suspension+brake mods
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 17 2016, 09:44 PM)
GT86, used.
Circa 120k

The rest go to BoT+ suspension+brake mods
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Only fits 3 person.
Barely can carry any luggage.
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post Nov 17 2016, 11:17 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 17 2016, 10:24 PM)
Only fits 3 person.
Barely can carry any luggage.
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If you're gonna own a GT86/BRZ, ain't no way you're gonna fit anybody back there besides kids laugh.gif which means more luggage space wink.gif and yeah, with 120k can buy a maybe 2014 unit, spend the extra 20k on brakes, coilovers, FI, exhaust, and intake. Then when the time comes, forged internals and crank up the boost drool.gif
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post Nov 17 2016, 11:29 PM

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i would go for focus

but really depends on what kind of driver u are

if family oriented, then civic la
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post Nov 17 2016, 11:40 PM

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If I need to carry the elderly people, I would avoid the Civic at all cost. Rear seats are mounted too low. Very torturing for the elderly to get in and out of the car. I would go for a CX-5 as my first choice instead although this is not a sedan. For sedan, maybe can consider the Altis as it is comfortable although I don't like the CVT whine when I push it uphill. NA engine need revs, cant do anything abt that.

If it is for myself and no passenger consideration, I will choose the Civic 1.5L TCP. It has sufficient power although I prefer the more futuristic CRZ instrument cluster instead. For carrying luggage though, I hate the metal bar behind the rear seat. I would rather sacrifice some stability for practicality. At least I can fold the rear seats to put some long furniture from Ikea.
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QUOTE(GalaxiasWilliam @ Nov 17 2016, 11:17 PM)
If you're gonna own a GT86/BRZ, ain't no way you're gonna fit anybody back there besides kids laugh.gif  which means more luggage space  wink.gif and yeah, with 120k can buy a maybe 2014 unit, spend the extra 20k on brakes, coilovers, FI, exhaust, and intake. Then when the time comes, forged internals and crank up the boost  drool.gif
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only used units that are most likely worn/modded.
its gotten much cheaper, but not as cheap as you think.

parts on the 86 also even worse... good coilovers alone already almost 10k. how you guys to FI it? brakes?
estimate at least 30-50k if you're that ambitious.
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post Nov 18 2016, 10:36 AM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 18 2016, 12:36 AM)
only used units that are most likely worn/modded.
its gotten much cheaper, but not as cheap as you think.

parts on the 86 also even worse... good coilovers alone already almost 10k. how you guys to FI it? brakes?
estimate at least 30-50k if you're that ambitious.
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Not as expensive as you might think bro, especially those worn out units, which even you factor in a total rebuild of power plant, it's still consider ok-ish, depends on your OCD level.

Also, 50k for mods, that's because you are in the beast league. Don't compare with us which in the kici-meow league.

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post Nov 18 2016, 10:48 AM

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There will be Mazda 2.2L Sky-D next year, not sure will be sub RM140k or not. But torque and FC wise, I think it is a big win.

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post Nov 18 2016, 11:31 AM

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140k C-segment suddenly GT86
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QUOTE(dares @ Nov 18 2016, 11:31 AM)
140k C-segment suddenly GT86
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post Nov 18 2016, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(Quazacolt @ Nov 18 2016, 12:36 AM)
only used units that are most likely worn/modded.
its gotten much cheaper, but not as cheap as you think.

parts on the 86 also even worse... good coilovers alone already almost 10k. how you guys to FI it? brakes?
estimate at least 30-50k if you're that ambitious.
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QUOTE(JunJun04035 @ Nov 18 2016, 10:36 AM)
Not as expensive as you might think bro, especially those worn out units, which even you factor in a total rebuild of power plant, it's still consider ok-ish, depends on your OCD level.

Also, 50k for mods, that's because you are in the beast league. Don't compare with us which in the kici-meow league.

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Let's see, if medium level coilovers (not those Ohlins level ya) like Tein, Tanabe, HKS maybe 5-7k can get?
Then 17' lightweight JDM rims like RPF1, can buy good used ones for say 3-4k maybe.
Then good performance tires, maybe about 2k all.
Brakes maybe can adopt from std 4/2 pots of other cars? Say spend around 3-4k front & rear to get refurbished calipers with new discs, pads, & stainless hose.
Exhaust maybe up to 2-4k
Then bolt-on FI plus engine management and additional gauges, can be 20-30k.
Then don't forget a good security system to protect all these stuff, maybe another 2-3k?
So total already like 34k-52k, no?
Belum lagi if want to do further chassis stiffening like bars & bushings. Then how about add body kits, and change some components just to improve AV entertainment a bit? brows.gif Total already like half the used price leh.
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post Nov 18 2016, 03:01 PM

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Why is the rubbish Nissan slphy even in the list?

I would pick either civic or Jetta anytime
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post Nov 18 2016, 03:09 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 18 2016, 02:49 PM)
Let's see, if medium level coilovers (not those Ohlins level ya) like Tein, Tanabe, HKS maybe 5-7k can get?
Then 17' lightweight JDM rims like RPF1, can buy good used ones for say 3-4k maybe.
Then good performance tires, maybe about 2k all.
Brakes maybe can adopt from std 4/2 pots of other cars? Say spend around 3-4k front & rear to get refurbished calipers with new discs, pads, & stainless hose.
Exhaust maybe up to 2-4k
Then bolt-on FI plus engine management and additional gauges, can be 20-30k.
Then don't forget a good security system to protect all these stuff, maybe another 2-3k?
So total already like 34k-52k, no?
Belum lagi if want to do further chassis stiffening like bars & bushings. Then how about add body kits, and change some components just to improve AV entertainment a bit?  brows.gif Total already like half the used price leh.
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welcome to the beast club.

BTW, who on earth, other than you two will ever consider spend 50% of the car price on mods? laugh.gif

C'mmon bro. It's Malaysia. Everything is fucking expensive here. sweat.gif
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Nov 18 2016, 02:49 PM)
Let's see, if medium level coilovers (not those Ohlins level ya) like Tein, Tanabe, HKS maybe 5-7k can get?
Then 17' lightweight JDM rims like RPF1, can buy good used ones for say 3-4k maybe.
Then good performance tires, maybe about 2k all.
Brakes maybe can adopt from std 4/2 pots of other cars? Say spend around 3-4k front & rear to get refurbished calipers with new discs, pads, & stainless hose.
Exhaust maybe up to 2-4k
Then bolt-on FI plus engine management and additional gauges, can be 20-30k.
Then don't forget a good security system to protect all these stuff, maybe another 2-3k?
So total already like 34k-52k, no?
Belum lagi if want to do further chassis stiffening like bars & bushings. Then how about add body kits, and change some components just to improve AV entertainment a bit?  brows.gif Total already like half the used price leh.
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Wa, the way you itemize it actually made me realize how even I (the other 2dudes aside hah) underestimated the cost laugh.gif

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