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willemng
post Aug 12 2017, 01:39 AM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 12 2017, 12:57 AM)
Open your eyes and consider whats happening today vs our parents time (baby boomers)....yes they will be jobs...but the distribution for those kinds of jobs in terms of income and 'status' will be bifurcated and skewed. Take your example of professional computer gamers....they are in the same class as NBA , tennis players and Hollywood entertainers in terms of their rarity and scarcity, ie only the very very best get to make an income from their profession.

Todays IT and tech companies have roughly 1/20th to 1/10th the manpower of our parents factories and manufacturing sectors. Consider GRAB....how many highly paid developers do they have vs the number of kuli drivers? Many smart people are already wondering how the current societal and economic system will have to readjust to a future where only 1% of the population have the abilities to hold those jobs that will generate 99% of the wealth, while the rest of the masses are reduced to jobs which are basically surplus/redundant/low value/fungible etc etc. Example....in US Amazon hires a lot of workers now to work in their warehouses, these workers used to be factory and retail workers, exactly the kind of jobs displaced by Amazon. The problem is these warehouse jobs are extremely susceptible to automation....

My advice...have less children because the value of human labor is going to decrease in the very near future (it started when factories replaced farming, 11 plus kids households became 2-3, now in the AI era it will become 0-1).
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So whats your plan?
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post Aug 12 2017, 01:51 AM

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QUOTE(willemng @ Aug 12 2017, 01:39 AM)
So whats your plan?
Writing essay for fun?
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Why the cynical tone? Never did say I have a plan, except perhaps having less children.
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post Aug 12 2017, 02:23 AM

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QUOTE(Boy96 @ Aug 11 2017, 11:32 PM)
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B2B job, 15 minute to pick her up

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Drop her off at 7:40pm

Really crazy today
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I kena today as a passengers.
Everytime request will be accepted by drivers still dropping off passenger. And the drop off location is like so far away. Cancel request again also the same.

I think Grab system haywire today. Seems like any drivers nearby will be allocated the job regardless where is passenger currently on board final drop off location.

End up I need to use Uber instead with a much higher fare. zzz. double Grab fare actually.
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post Aug 12 2017, 02:59 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 12 2017, 02:23 AM)
I kena today as a passengers.
Everytime request will be accepted by drivers still dropping off passenger. And the drop off location is like so far away. Cancel request again also the same.

I think Grab system haywire today. Seems like any drivers nearby will be allocated the job regardless where is passenger currently on board final drop off location.

End up I need to use Uber instead with a much higher fare. zzz. double Grab fare actually.
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my theory is that today some Dev was playing around with the server and accidentally introduced the justgrab version into the app, then after some panic rushed to revert to old version. but somewhere in the reversion one or a few setting is off, including the one about b2b matching and driver location. hence all the nonsense b2b matching this evening. morning and noon, before the just grab bug, everything was fine, did b2b in klcc no problems at noon time.
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post Aug 12 2017, 07:12 AM

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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 12 2017, 12:57 AM)
Open your eyes and consider whats happening today vs our parents time (baby boomers)....yes they will be jobs...but the distribution for those kinds of jobs in terms of income and 'status' will be bifurcated and skewed. Take your example of professional computer gamers....they are in the same class as NBA , tennis players and Hollywood entertainers in terms of their rarity and scarcity, ie only the very very best get to make an income from their profession.

Todays IT and tech companies have roughly 1/20th to 1/10th the manpower of our parents factories and manufacturing sectors. Consider GRAB....how many highly paid developers do they have vs the number of kuli drivers? Many smart people are already wondering how the current societal and economic system will have to readjust to a future where only 1% of the population have the abilities to hold those jobs that will generate 99% of the wealth, while the rest of the masses are reduced to jobs which are basically surplus/redundant/low value/fungible etc etc. Example....in US Amazon hires a lot of workers now to work in their warehouses, these workers used to be factory and retail workers, exactly the kind of jobs displaced by Amazon. The problem is these warehouse jobs are extremely susceptible to automation....

My advice...have less children because the value of human labor is going to decrease in the very near future (it started when factories replaced farming, 11 plus kids households became 2-3, now in the AI era it will become 0-1).
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QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 12 2017, 01:51 AM)
Why the cynical tone? Never did say I have a plan, except perhaps having less children.
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Or 2 have no children at all like us and sg ladies chasing the corporate ladder not getting married at all laugh.gif doh.gif
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post Aug 12 2017, 08:34 AM

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QUOTE(willemng @ Aug 12 2017, 01:36 AM)
I guess thks is good rider.

This evening only me in bukit jalil. Fetched riders for 2 hour to and from lrt to endah place until i wanna vomit because of the traffic.
But 90%riders willing to wait rather than cancel
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12pm to 2pm so many places in red.
Those area ping none stop

good for u. Lrt bkt jalil to endah area is very near.
None rider request to go lrt after endah?
Then u no need hastle go through traffic's light again with empty car.


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post Aug 12 2017, 08:48 AM

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QUOTE(willemng @ Aug 12 2017, 01:33 AM)
Why la you care about driver complain?
Drivers here,  they are work for money,  not charity unless they volunteer.

Grabshare =
Short trip rm3-7
Pro- good for incentive driver to chase incentive
Con- low income /charity work for all drivers,  longer time for match ride,  unhappy matched rider, endless searching rider mode,   both drop off locations with same distance ratio but different  direction.

Imagine pick up both at mid valley,  1st go to bukit bintang,  2nd go to bukit jalil. It happened to me
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Just call the rider and explain now got match, the place where u will head to and who is the drop off. Ask they willing to ride? If not then ask them cancel with reason take longer time to reach and tell them that rab wont charge them extra. Hope they understand

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post Aug 12 2017, 08:54 AM

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QUOTE(act one @ Aug 11 2017, 10:09 PM)
Died faster when u complaint to rider.
Rider is not for us to complaint or educate

Either u cancel or ignore the job.

U could tell some ugly story about GS, that all we could do.
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just tell them GS is for none rush.
if match it will be the luck to be decided by the system who will be first drop off. them give example on how GS allocate like midvalkey to bkt bintang, to bkt jalil. rider should evaluate the time spend within the route
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post Aug 12 2017, 09:15 AM

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QUOTE(-BOOM- @ Aug 11 2017, 08:12 PM)
Anyone getting back to back job right after u pick up passenger... i pick up at kl sentral To jalan gasing. straight away get another job request from kl sentral to lowyat... it happened for 6times just today..
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Yes, me too 6pm to 7pm at south city. b2b at the location 8 passed by. Is system error or no driver around that area? Really weird.
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post Aug 12 2017, 09:42 AM

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Suppose to be system error . Impossible will match to us. The system is bloody dammit..

Even now still happen... After pick up, straight another b2b came.. doh.gif ..
willemng
post Aug 12 2017, 09:51 AM

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QUOTE(AskarPerang @ Aug 12 2017, 02:23 AM)
I kena today as a passengers.
Everytime request will be accepted by drivers still dropping off passenger. And the drop off location is like so far away. Cancel request again also the same.

I think Grab system haywire today. Seems like any drivers nearby will be allocated the job regardless where is passenger currently on board final drop off location.

End up I need to use Uber instead with a much higher fare. zzz. double Grab fare actually.
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I think they accidently release the justgrab thingy for langkawi and other behind the scene technical issue
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post Aug 12 2017, 09:53 AM

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QUOTE(starex80 @ Aug 12 2017, 08:34 AM)
12pm to 2pm so many places in red.
Those area ping none stop

good for u. Lrt bkt jalil to endah area is very near.
None rider request to go lrt after endah?
Then u no need hastle go through traffic's light again with empty car.
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Empty car is ok since its so close distance. The problem is non stop.
Lrt to endah, endah to lrt, lrt to endah, endah to lrt.
No time sneak for a toilet break
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post Aug 12 2017, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(WhiteWing @ Aug 12 2017, 09:42 AM)
Suppose to be system error .  Impossible will match to us. The system is bloody dammit..

Even now still happen... After pick up, straight another b2b came.. doh.gif ..
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CS : sir please switch off available button after pick up if you cant complete the next job, otherwise we will suspend you whistling.gif

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post Aug 12 2017, 10:38 AM

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QUOTE(willemng @ Aug 12 2017, 09:53 AM)
Empty car is ok since its so close distance. The problem is non stop. 
Lrt to endah,  endah to lrt,  lrt to endah,  endah to lrt.
No time sneak for a toilet break
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haha ask passenger 2 wait 4 you while you go toilet break larh laugh.gif unless between location point no kiosk at all doh.gif
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post Aug 12 2017, 11:36 AM

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QUOTE(skylinelover @ Aug 11 2017, 10:22 PM)
So did you accept or ignore? laugh.gif icon_idea.gif
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Ignore lah of course, waste my time accepting such job

QUOTE(moosekaka @ Aug 12 2017, 02:59 AM)
my theory is that today some Dev was playing around with the server and accidentally introduced the justgrab version into the app, then after some panic rushed to revert to old version. but somewhere in the reversion one or a few setting is off, including the one about b2b matching and driver location. hence all the nonsense b2b matching this evening. morning and noon, before the just grab bug, everything was fine, did b2b in klcc no problems at noon time.
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I think it is done on purpose, just to promote JUSTGRAB function, let customer wait long long and force them to use JUSTGRAB

Now the b2b is based on your location, not drop-off location or near there
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post Aug 12 2017, 12:16 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 12 2017, 11:36 AM)
Ignore lah of course, waste my time accepting such job
I think it is done on purpose, just to promote JUSTGRAB function, let customer wait long long and force them to use JUSTGRAB

Now the b2b is based on your location, not drop-off location or near there
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grab next strategy will get all taxi driver join grab taxi.
Next time the rider either get hailing taxi or car and yet with lower prices.

Grab keep make fares cheap by promoting its new function.
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post Aug 12 2017, 12:45 PM

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QUOTE(starex80 @ Aug 12 2017, 12:16 PM)
grab next strategy will get all taxi driver join grab taxi.
Next time the rider either get hailing taxi or car and yet with lower prices.

Grab keep make fares cheap by promoting its new function.
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if i am not mistaken out fare per km is already lower then lrt or mrt or bus
SUSmoosekaka
post Aug 12 2017, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(yhtan @ Aug 12 2017, 11:36 AM)
Ignore lah of course, waste my time accepting such job
I think it is done on purpose, just to promote JUSTGRAB function, let customer wait long long and force them to use JUSTGRAB

Now the b2b is based on your location, not drop-off location or near there
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I think you're over estimating their developers competency.... if you ever work with software devs you know this kind of things always happens.... one guy pushes changes without knowing that some other part of the app will break.... then reverting back breaks more things.... it is a symptom of poor software development MANAGEment.
besides just grab hasn't even been introduced here yet.

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post Aug 12 2017, 01:13 PM

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incompetency u mean...
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post Aug 12 2017, 01:35 PM

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What is wrong with today b2b wtf I still 14 mins away from drop off location . Come job in my current location

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