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 Gerbils Hut V4, I wont bite you, I wont stink either !

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arraille
post Feb 16 2007, 11:54 AM

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QUOTE(kembara @ Feb 16 2007, 11:31 AM)
jahat u aaa...how do you know i am a fat man aaa..
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 16 2007, 11:35 AM)
HAPPY CHINESE NEW YEAR!!!!
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yup... selamat tahun baru cina... happy chinese new year... gong xi fa cai... kong hei kong hei...!!! party.gif so tomorrow got yam-seng la foo... cheers.gif laugh.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Feb 27 2007, 03:48 AM)
Here's one of my duprasis. Their fur is darn soft, like chinchilla fur. wub.gif
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i notice that u r not using wood shaving is it...?

p/s: so geram to see those dups... drool.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 10:58 AM

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Singapore is very strict b'coz of small country... if they allow a lot of animals to enter, then they have to 'compete' with human for 'space' la... laugh.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 02:40 PM

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to any sifus here... what is the best colour to pair with sp black... and what is the possible colours of their offsprings...?
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post Feb 27 2007, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 03:32 PM)
hv to see what gene ur sp black carrying.
it can give u alots of colors, also can only give u one color smile.gif
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waaa... that complicated meh... how to know what gene they are carrying...? hmm.gif
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post Feb 27 2007, 04:42 PM

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so, let say if i want to have sp black... and i only have all-black (aa), that means i have to pair with AA or Aa of any colour or sp black only...?
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post Feb 27 2007, 04:55 PM

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do u mind telling me what is the combination of colours that can provide various sp colour (such as sp argente, sp agouti, sp DEH & sp lilac)...? tq

p/s: still trying to understand the gerbils genetic... hmm.gif


Added on February 27, 2007, 4:58 pm
QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 04:53 PM)
u put a aa sp black with an other aa, then can get black oledi, but sp or not hv to see how strong is the sp gene.  if sp is not strong then will become ur avatart ALL BLACK. putting an A- gerbil can give u A- & aa pup, but also can be all A- pups. if ur goal is so low, u only want black any aa will do, n better get an aa PP then sure u get blacks. n also if the sp on the sp black it not a nice one, it will make u a few generation to improve the sp gene, again it hv to be a string sp gene.  n breeding the generation u will need to get more breeding pair to avoid inbreeding.
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no no... no 'self' gerbil for me... sp gerbils attract me the most... nod.gif

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post Feb 27 2007, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(jaswwp @ Feb 27 2007, 05:04 PM)
uh, self doesnt mean no sp... all black gerbils are self, regardless sp or no sp. self means top n bottom coat color are same. if u want to breed sp gerbils... breeding sp x sp will give you 3/4 sp pups... sp x non sp will give you around 50% sp pups.
if u want lilac, deh... you have to start with lilac and deh... dont expect tat a sp black can give you lilac or deh unless it has lilac/deh parents.. then also u have to mate it to lilac or deh in order to get what you want.
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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 27 2007, 05:05 PM)
sp gerbils will give plain color gerbils, its just depance where the sp drop.  u wouldn't get 100% sp pups.  n there is no certain combination pair will give u certain pups, all depance on the gene they carrying.
its just like normaly black X black give u black, but my black X black with u white n red eye.  breeding gerbil is non 1 pair story.  u hv to get a few good n right pair inorder to get the color u want in the 3rd generation.
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thanks guys... i get the rough picture already and i think i know what colours i need for the 'starter'... notworthy.gif

p/s: need to continue reading about gerbils gene after this... sweat.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 09:54 AM

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QUOTE(crazymouse_yyh @ Feb 27 2007, 09:06 PM)
Hahah... another person that wants to try breeding.... Breeding properly never stops with 1 pair.... it goes on and on and on.... I can say Thank Goodness I poisoned Foo and Jas into gerbils, if not, I don't think we will ever have such nice colours available or even have a market for gerbils in petshops.

Another thing... if pair sp with non-sp... not always will have 50% sp pups... I got a litter with only 1 sp out of 5 pups... sometimes I think it depends on the background of the parent gerbils and also how strong the sp is. For now, I'm keeping my fingers crossed in hoping to get some nice Sp in the upcoming litters.
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agree... actually it depends on which gene is stronger... no 100% guarantee, but the chances is still there...

even my ayam serama that have yellow parents sometimes do have black colour chicks... most probably the gene is from the great grandparents, coz both parents of the Dam & Sire is not black also... juz one example that offsprings won't be 100% like parents... the bloodline also play an important role...

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Feb 28 2007, 10:08 AM)
but the aim is in grey agouti n slate...
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can u show the colour... wanna know also... hmm.gif
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waaa... i love sp slate... drool.gif

doesn't grey agouti look almost like lilac...? correct me if i'm wrong... hmm.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 11:22 AM

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foo... any chances on u getting the slate or sp slate...? brows.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 01:40 PM

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if got sp slate by april-may... can reserve 1 for me...? brows.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 01:42 PM

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post Feb 28 2007, 01:56 PM

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i know u r more to hobby than business... juz trying my luck... laugh.gif
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post Feb 28 2007, 05:37 PM

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aiyaaa... readix why u tell in public... see, she knows already now... doh.gif

p/s: already prepared sleeping pills & ubat batuk for Taro... brows.gif

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post Mar 1 2007, 03:17 PM

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how much Breeder Celect cost per kg...? if almost like Woody Pet (big bag ><rm3 plus/kg & small bag ><rm5 /kg) i think i'll give it a try...

btw... do gerbils can stay in aircond room at night...? hmm.gif

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post Mar 1 2007, 03:47 PM

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QUOTE(Reanne @ Mar 1 2007, 03:39 PM)
BC 2kg(5L) - RM18+
BC 5kg(15L) - RM45+
BC 11.6kg(35L) - RM90+
Woody pet 13.6kg - RM50
Now I'm trying to save cost, buying BC and woody pet and mix together. Not bad, still waiting to see how long it lasts.
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waaa... so damn expensive... i got 13.6kg Woody Pet for RM44.91 (Petsmore cardholder price)... equals to rm3.30/kg... and BC is about rm9/kg... i can say roughly with the cost of 1kg of BC i can get 3kg of Woody Pet... nevermind then, i think i better stick to Woody Pet for the time being... sweat.gif
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post Mar 1 2007, 03:53 PM

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it's normal lah like that... the better the things is the more expensive it will be... but for me, if i can still get the 2nd best is enough already... sweat.gif

p/s: later when i have extra cash, i'll give it a try la... biggrin.gif

EDITED:
i've gone through the website juz now... amazing fact that attracts me is, it won't break down to dust when wet (Woody Pet does)... so Reanne, the prices of BC u posted are which petshop's price...? perhap i'll buy BC when my Woody Pet is running out... brows.gif

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post Mar 2 2007, 09:57 AM

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QUOTE(nezumitaro @ Mar 2 2007, 09:50 AM)
arraille,
Nutmeg is the 3rd one in my signny, so if u say orange then nutmeg is out.
DEH n Argente,
DEH is with black eye
Argente is with ruby eye
both colors looks difference too. DEH hv a high belly line, while Argente line is low.  also it color also affect by the line they r from, a good line will give u a very sharp color, a weak line will not. also it depance on their growing age nutrition intake.  it is y ppl say, if u want to see the animal healty or not, look at their fur.
good nutrition, good health both colors give u very striking looks. smile.gif even BLACK can be very BEAUTIFUL, cos a good nice black give u a VERY shinny coat!
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thanks for the info, foo... smile.gif

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