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4WD_er
post Sep 27 2018, 09:06 AM

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QUOTE(tan171076 @ Sep 26 2018, 09:55 PM)
I am planning to get a MPV. And i am consider either take kia grand carnival or recond toyota estima. I am personally intersted with the new kia grand carnival 8AT. and i knew if talking about features, kia grand carnival is leading, but no doubts toyota estima are reliable car for so long and alot of people driving estima on the road compare with carnival.

But below is my concern for taking kia carnival,
- fuel consumption
- spare parts and maintenance cost
- spare part waiting period
- 8AT with diesel turbo engine reliability
- second value

Hope can get someone advise before i make my final decision. Appreciated if anyone who used kia carnival for years can share your experience.
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I have an older Estima ACR30 (2005) and my closed cousin also bought a Estima ACR50 (2010) almost at the same time 3+ years ago. So I can say something about Estima.

Lets start with the cons :
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It's evergreen looking, but being recon you have no warranty or whatsoever and you are required to pay service bill from day 1.

ALL ESTIMA PRIOR TO 2016 LATEST FACELIFT DO NOT HAVE ESC or ESP (electronic stability control). Can you accept this ?

For ACR50 there is a design problem on the steering column, have glok glok sound, even after this RM2k replacement, it can only last about 3 year.

Do not fall into the trap that Estima have strong resale value, if you buy a 3-5 yrs old recond car, after you use it for 5-6 years it exceeds 10 yrs of age. Hard to get financing for the next buyer, so resale value will be suppressed by car dealers. Even if you buy a 2 years old 2016 model with latest facelift, it will set you back with closed to RM200k, you use it for 5 years it will be a 8 years old car, you probably get back something like 90k from car dealers. To me that is quite good already lar wink.gif

FC is not something to shout about for Estima, in city the 2.4 car can cost you quite a bit to run. If you live in big city, prepare to see 7km per litre of RON95 petrol (you get 8km when you are EXTREMELY light footed and lucky). On highway it can then reach about 10-11km per litre.


Then we talk about the pro :
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Other than the above, Estima is a O-reliable simple car. Not a lot of electronics to deal with. Almost workshop or tyreshop know how to fix a Estima. Spare parts are abundant. Secondhand parts are also abundant.

Evergreen looking.

Easy to sell, there are lots of ppl looking for Estima when you want to sell in future. It's also not hard to sell it via mudah by yourself, do remember to let it go before it reaches 10 yrs of age.

This post has been edited by 4WD_er: Sep 27 2018, 09:07 AM
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post Nov 9 2018, 03:10 PM

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I have also asked my sorento whatsapp group members a few times and also ask SC, some said yes some said no. Could not get a firm answer. Only time will tell haha biggrin.gif

I think we just take it as yes. Do try to take the car for a long drive once in a while to clear the dust that build up over time in the DPF wink.gif
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post Nov 30 2018, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Sep 10 2018, 12:52 PM)
Malaysian spec without 360 degree camera.
Boss Buydirect, since you / your company is one of the top KIA dealers in the country, can you advise whether there is a way or platform we owners of Sorento / Carnival (the big KIA cars) can sign a petition or request to ask KIA Malaysia to offer the 360 camera as a separate add-on package for us the existing owners. Since our cars are already fitted with reverse camera with the 7" inch screen, the additional work and cost should not be so much, and it can make many many owners happy yet KIA SC will earn the extra money at the same time.

It's like a win-win-win situation. Can you please advise ?
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post Dec 8 2018, 10:18 PM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Dec 8 2018, 03:47 PM)
Unfortunately, no such plan to bring in sunroof nor 360 camera for time being. So far, only Optima GT-Line has the AVM (Around View Monitor) in all Kia Malaysia model line-up as at this moment.

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Don't know what's in KIA Malaysia management's head. Smaller car fitted with 360 cam but bigger and higher sales volume Sorento and Carnival don't get. Damn it !
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post Oct 14 2019, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(fong928 @ Oct 13 2019, 09:48 PM)
dear all, I'm new to Diesel engine car, and would like to seek for you guys advice.

for the B10 or B20 diesel, does it apply to Euro 2 only ?

how about Euro 5 ? Does it contain any palm oil, b7, b10?
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I think so. B20 will only be in Euro 2 and for transport industry to use.

Euro 5 at the moment is B7.
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post Aug 29 2020, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(Buydirect @ Aug 29 2020, 01:11 PM)
This is very surprising as KGC has very high torque of 440 Nm and is known to have great pick-up. So far, a lot of users' feedbacks are quite the opposite, acceleration from standstill is great, in spite of its sheer size and weight. Maybe your Alphard is better in that department, but KGC is no sluggard.
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Maybe he set to Eco mode on his KGC. Or he talked about throttle response lag, which can happen on some car due to the transmission tuning.

 

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