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Financial MRTA vs MLTA vs Term Plus..., whatever they call it

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jason_chee
post Jun 8 2012, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(davidlow7 @ Jun 1 2012, 04:43 PM)
Currently I am in dilemma as to purchase MRTA or MLTA.

I am a first time buyer and is still trying to understand both MRTA vs MLTA.

My purchased price is 370,800 so loan 90% is @ RM333,720.

As I need to take MRTA in order to get -2.4%, judging from the MRTA is going to cost me about RM12k for an aged 28 person.

I am considering to take 50% of the loan amount into MRTA for 10 years.

While perhaps 50-70% of the loan amount for 30 years.

What do you all think???

The reason I have this idea is:-
- I am not sure if I will sell this house in 5-10 years, although my current idea is to make it my home.

- MRTA finance into loan is really pain for interest while MLTA you are paying monthly as in taking another insurance for yourself. Judging by the extra in interest, perhaps an adjustment into taking a mixed of this may be a better choice?

- MLTA can help me to get some tax relief

- I am still young, at aged 28 and is my first house perhaps it is good to buy since it is transferable to my another property in future.

- MLTA covers 36 illnesses as well, another life insurance since I won't be ending with only 1 insurance policy with me anyway.

I am still waiting for my insurance agent to get back to me on the table/quotation to fully decide.

Perhaps any input from you guys will help.
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do take note on MRTA. It's REDUCING BALANCE. meaning,

50% of loan amount = RM 166,860 for 10 years MRTA. Kindly refer to the "Sum Assured" of the proposal.

The Sum Assured could be as below:
Year 1 - RM 166,860
Year 2 - RM 135,000
Year 3 - RM 105,000
Year 4 - RM 75,000
Year 5 - RM 45,000
Year 6 - RM 25,000
Year 7 - RM 15,000
Year 8 - RM 10,000
Year 9 - RM 5,000
Year 10 - RM 2,000

just my illustration only. you still have to refer to Sum Assured in the proposal chart. if you are considering buying this scheme, i would suggest you to take MLTA without Rider Option (36 CI). cover the sum assured for 150K first. when your financial is getting better, increase the sum insured and eventually you have to pay more every month. now, you can also consider this as ur saving. imagine, after 25 years, you can cancel your MLTA and use the money to fully settle your loan. it could be 1 alternative as well. smile.gif
jason_chee
post Jul 1 2014, 03:26 PM

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QUOTE(GHOSTVIC @ May 21 2014, 03:37 AM)
Bro i have confusion here, for an example you quoted for below..

MLTA coverage type 2 coverage of RM480k, Cover Death & TPD only

Monthly premium = RM515.32
Yearly premium = RM5889.60

GUARANTEED
Surrender value at 40years = RM316,848.00 (total paid only RM235,584.00)
Surrender value at 35years = RM275,035.00 (total paid only RM206,136.00)
Surrender value at 30years = RM229,325.00 (total paid only RM176,688.00)
Surrender value at 25years = RM181,493.00 (total paid only RM147,240.00)
Surrender value at 20years = RM135,691.00 (total paid only RM117,792.00)
Surrender value at 14years = RM83,050.00 (total paid only RM82,454.40) <----- RM5889.60 x 14years = RM82,454.40
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if i calculate monthly premium RM515.32 for below number of months, the total paid amount varies than your amount.
I believe you multiply with yearly premium.. so yearly premium cheaper than monthly ?

515.32 x 12 months = RM6183.84,  but yearly premium u have quoted is RM5889.60... So which is correct ?

515.32 X 168 months (14years) = RM86573.76 
515.32 X 240 months (20years) = RM123676.80

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wow...6K per annum. That's a big chunk of money. i took MLTA form GE 2 years ago. RM 400K coverage for Death & TPD only. RM 1710 per annum. I'm 30 years old when i took that package and i'm non-smoking male. Price could be change but 6K per annum, seems expensive for me. just my 2 cents.
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post Jul 1 2014, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jul 1 2014, 05:01 PM)
The price expensive because of the guaranteed surrender value that you get break even of the total money paid in just 14 years. Mean you get back all the money paid after 14th years and enjoy the free rm480k coverage.

May I know how much do you get back for your MLTA and is it guaranteed at 14th years?

There is also cheaper option MLTA, which is also around the premium you paid. It's all depend on what you prefer and benefit you getting. Not depend on coverage amount alone. You must consider the surrender value (guaranteed or non guaranteed), coverage period.

We just choose the suitable product for ourself, just like buying car a rm50k Myvi or buying rm500k bmw. Both can bring you from A to B but both give you different enjoyment.
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yup. mine also the same thing. Between 10-15 years. Can't remember cos i have few policies. i always look at Surrender Value in every Insurance Policy. That's why I skip some of the Investment Policies. I also understand that Insurance company not charity organization. But 6K per annum is a bit too high. That's what my "Closed" insurance agent quoted me 3 years ago. After 1 year of surveying thru few insurance agent from same company and other company, i managed to get 1 with the amount i mentioned. There is no right or wrong. IMO, 6K per annum is expensive. Some will say Fair.
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post Jul 1 2014, 05:20 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jul 1 2014, 05:17 PM)
You mean your premium will break even at 10-15th years? is it guaranteed? and how long for the coverage period? Is it a fixed term coverage?
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Yup. Based on the Surrender Value. Since it'd printed out in Policy, it is consider guaranteed. There is no fix coverage period. I can stop next year. But of course Surrender Value will be low. I also can stop in 10 years time when i feel i want to. No "locked" time frame. But i think there is capping such as Max of 70 years old or something which i need to dbl confirm on that again. What do you mean by fixed term coverage? Fix premium? Should be.
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post Jul 1 2014, 05:47 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jul 1 2014, 05:43 PM)
Printed out doesn't mean guaranteed. You should be able to see 'guaranteed' this word in the surrender value if it's guaranteed. Some printed out but it's just stated 'projected' like in the investment link product. Better check ya.

All policy will not have lock in period, we can terminate any policy at anytime we like. Just that some product we need to commit a certain period to enjoy the full benefit. 
Fixed term coverage mean for term policy that will provide a fixed coverage like 10 years, 20 years, or 30 years fixed. Can't extend automatically. Normally this kind of policy will be cheaper for short coverage period as coverage age is young.

There is too much variable to determine the premium price beside the coverage amount alone. So we just choose the best package that suitable to each person. smile.gif
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Correct. I agreed with you. I will have to dig back my policy and dbl check on Surrender Value. I take in what is stated in Official Policy. No Fixed term for my policy. I can terminate now as well and get back very very little Surrender Value. But that's not in my plan. Max capping not too sure. Have to check my policy. maybe 30 years max.
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post Jul 1 2014, 08:40 PM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jul 1 2014, 06:00 PM)
Feel free to ask or share any information regarding to MLTA or MRTA ya. smile.gif
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Coverage Terms 69 Years. Does it mean until i'm 69 years old or 69 years from the year I start?

There's no Guaranteed Return for my policy. It depend on X and Y factor in GE Investment. I checked the policy and there's no Breakeven for my policy. Max i could get back is RM 10K based on X Column by year 10. Year 10 means total of RM 17K paid for 10 years policy.
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post Jul 2 2014, 09:47 AM

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QUOTE(onnying88 @ Jul 1 2014, 09:58 PM)
Then it's investment link product already. That's why the premium is cheaper a lot as investment link product coverage premium is come from fund value available and it will increase year by years.

Coverage term until age 99 which is 69years in your case. But please bare in mind your 'insurance charge' may not be able to cover the  rm400k coverage until 69 years. It might stop at maybe 30-40years depend on fund value available.
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i see. that is cover for 69 years. yes, i'm aware of that. by the time 30-40 years, loan already settled and i might died. so, no issue. as long as it cover for this upcoming 20 years before i dispose it.

 

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