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Financial MRTA vs MLTA vs Term Plus..., whatever they call it

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MaxWealth
post Oct 4 2010, 11:58 AM

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QUOTE(007Loo @ Sep 23 2010, 01:35 PM)
Hi there,

Can someone give me a quote for MLTA and MRTA.
Age: 23
Loan: RM300k
Tenure: 20/25/30/35 years
Basic plan (death & TPD)
Plans with the property: Home stay for say 5-8 years, then sell.

The property is joint-name with my partner who's of the same age. Total for both of us would amount to?
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Hi Bro, still need any quotation?
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:55 PM

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QUOTE(lonewolf @ Oct 11 2010, 12:12 PM)
those consultant please do give some 2cents views..

assuming u have 2 person getting a loan. of let say 500k.

would it be advisable to take MLTA for each person at 250k or 500k?
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coverage against? death and tpd or critical illness, death and tpd?
Should insured more on the person who serve the loan more..
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post Jan 19 2011, 11:09 AM

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QUOTE(imokhtar0330 @ Dec 29 2010, 11:03 AM)
Here guys, found this on the Internet. Maybe reading this can help you have a better understanding. Good luck to all! smile.gif

http://www.iproperty.com.my/news/2877/Mort...operty-Purchase
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Nice article that can help forumers...
MaxWealth
post Apr 25 2011, 03:19 PM

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60% of the CI premium can be claim under medical only la bro..
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post Apr 27 2011, 03:43 PM

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MLTA is a "name" used for mortgage loan coverage.
The plan used for such protection can be whole life or term or even ILP.
whole life usually covers upto age 85 while you can select your term (15,20,25,30) for term plan.
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post May 14 2011, 01:31 PM

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Assasins is so pro...
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post May 17 2011, 03:25 AM

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Yes you can ** T&C applys..but if you get 5 years, the reducing rate is way too fast compared to your outstanding balance loan

This post has been edited by MaxWealth: May 17 2011, 03:26 AM
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post May 22 2011, 04:32 PM

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QUOTE(Aeon_Clock @ May 22 2011, 02:27 AM)
question. Can you get the bank loan from "Bank A" but get MRTA from "Bank B" or straight from an Insurance company?
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If they offer you like 95% + mrta, then must stick to the same bank.
Or else, there is no compulsary anymore from most of the bank. You can just assign your policy to them if they want it from you
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post Jul 28 2011, 05:50 PM

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QUOTE(Shinky @ Jul 28 2011, 04:43 PM)
Hi Guys, I have one question.
Anybody knows using Government loan can apply for MLTA instead of MRTA?
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Yes. it is possible wink.gif You can left the authority to your beneficiary or government..
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post Jul 30 2011, 01:16 AM

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QUOTE(itsybitsy @ Jul 29 2011, 04:41 PM)
Hi,

1. If I get a housing loan from say, Maybank, can I buy MLTA from AIA/ING?
2. If my loan tenure is 15 years, can I buy MLTA for 30 years?
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1. Yes
2. Yes. You can use it (same premium rate) for next property MLTA.
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post Aug 12 2011, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(yewsiong @ Aug 11 2011, 02:22 PM)
I have a question. Following the example given on the first post,

"MRTA scenario
So if he purchase RM100k for 30 years MRTA the premium will be RM2165 and the surrender value from time to time is less and less. So, if anything happen to Ken at 5th year, the benefit he get from insurance com will be RM95299 while 10th year will be RM87319. So at the end, the value will be zero at 30th year."

Question: What if at 5th year, Ken's loan balance is only 50k (i.e. he is paying his loan faster than scheduled), will he still get the RM95299 or RM50k?

If Ken passed away, the bank will get (assume he assigned to the bank)  RM 95299- RM 50k (outstanding loan). The extra can be claim by family member follow the rules and regulation in malaysia in claiming the estate and this fund will be subjected to creditor's claim.


Added on August 11, 2011, 2:26 pmSecond question, following the same scenario.

"MRTA scenario
So if he purchase RM100k for 30 years MRTA the premium will be RM2165 and the surrender value from time to time is less and less. So, if anything happen to Ken at 5th year, the benefit he get from insurance com will be RM95299 while 10th year will be RM87319. So at the end, the value will be zero at 30th year."

Let's say Ken has a wife (Chun Li), both their names under the same loan, both bought the same MRTA.
(1) What if Ken die/TPD first and few years later Chun Li die too. Would the nominee get 2 round of payment from insurance company?
Assume both Ken and Chun Li get RM 100k MRTA, when Ken die/tpd, the loan will be fully repaid using the MRTA. At that moment, Chun Li MRTA might be cease with cash value refund or she can continue to use the MRTA on other property (depends on MRTA T&C, most of the MRTA will ceased upon fully loan repayment). If Chun Li MRTA is still inforced, then the nominee will get the compensation.

(2) What if they die/TPD together at the same time? Would it make a difference?
The extra can be claim by family member follow the rules and regulation in malaysia in claiming the estate and this fund will be subjected to creditor's claim.

Thanks in advance...
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post Oct 12 2011, 12:58 AM

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QUOTE(ahucks @ Oct 11 2011, 09:52 AM)
hi there...between full coverage n half coverage which one is better?...

full coverage@ rm 326700

5 yr  premium-4318    inst  RM 1461
10                6525                1470
15                9108                1482
20              12443              1496

half coverage@ rm 163350

5 yr  premium - 2217  inst  RM 1452
10                  3355              1457
15                  4693              1462
20                  6425              1470
25                  8703              1480
30                  11734              1493
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Not sure your coverage is for death/tpd only or death/tpd/CI. And is it reducing? or level coverage?
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post Oct 21 2011, 02:23 AM

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It depends on what kind of plan you are taking. Actually it will not cost much.
Yes, if you dont get it, you can max the profits and gain more return.
But if you get it, you can at least manage your financial risk.

Example, if you get a RM 500k property, imagine how much you need to transfer this property to your next kin? stamp duty, legal fees etc?
The next thing is, if transfering is not a problem, can they manage to pay for it?
The ultimate is, every asset of your will be freeze including your bank account. What other method is faster than insurance or from funding from family/relatives?
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post Oct 26 2011, 06:22 PM

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QUOTE(arian @ Oct 24 2011, 11:03 PM)
need advice.

i refinanced my house from STANCHART to MBANK last year and didnt know that MRTA can be 'refunded' when i buy another MRTA with another insurer. 

what is the procedure?  the refinance was more than 1 year, maybe 2 years ago,

can i still get the refund from the previous insurer that i took the MRTA?

Thanx in ADVANCE.
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Just wondering you took with the bank or directly from an insurance company?
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post Oct 27 2011, 02:10 AM

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QUOTE(arian @ Oct 26 2011, 09:12 PM)
i took from stanchart and if im not mistaken, its from an insurance company. i'll have to dig in to find out my old docs.

ps..thanx for all of u all who replied. VERY HELPFUL indeed.
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Yup. You should find your policy first and go to respective company to do the necessary to surrender the policy.
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post Dec 7 2011, 12:27 AM

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QUOTE(SSblack @ Dec 6 2011, 11:31 AM)
hi,

Just want to clarified, between mrta and mlta;

In the example shown;

MRTA (Single Premium): RM 18176.10 (Assuming that this is not financed)- Even if you finance for 30 years you will pay total of
RM 32040(with 4.2% interest)

MLTA (Annual Premium): RM 5276.10 (About RM460 monthly)- In 30 years, you'll pay RM5276.10 x 30 = RM 158,283.00

Please correct me if I'm wrong, i just want to have a clearer picture of the example, and one more question, how much am I going to get back for MLTA?

But frankly speaking 158k for insurance, i really cant imagine........................
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MRTA- Coverage reducing.
Please make sure the reducing rate is on par with reducing rate of the loan.


MLTA- level coverage.

Hence, the "cost" for MRTA is lesser for MLTA.

If you have adequete life insurance, 36 CI, you can opt for MRTA. However, there are plenty of benefits going for MLTA too. It just depends on whether you want it or not.



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post Dec 7 2011, 11:51 PM

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QUOTE(Octopuz @ Dec 7 2011, 09:59 PM)
Hi all,

I was offered on following house loan by HSBC:

Loan amount= rm333k
Age= 30
tenure= 35 years
Property=completed

The loan officer introduces "Takaful Mortgage Protector". Is it a MRTA plan??
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If the coverage is reducing, then it is a mortgage reducing term assurance (MRTA)..

You should ask your banker for more info on it. wink.gif
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post Dec 27 2011, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Octopuz @ Dec 27 2011, 10:06 PM)
hi all,

need some advice here...

currently i own an insurance + CI with coverage at about 450k...
so, do u think i need to buy mrta or mlta for 300+k loan?

as i bought the house with my spouse, im thinking to buy mrta/mlta under her name instead...

**dilemma**
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Ermm, do you know the break down of your RM450k coverage?
example:
life: RM 100k
CI: RM 100k
PA: RM 200k
heath, medical card? RM XXX? But this doesnot pay out cash.

Justify how much do your family need per year and how long can they live with the funds after minus the housing loan. If it is sufficient, then you can choose to buy MRTA rather than MLTA or even no need if your coverage is much more than your liability.

Depends on who is serving the loan. The one who serve more should cover more wink.gif
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post Feb 6 2012, 08:55 PM

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QUOTE(silkysilk @ Feb 6 2012, 12:18 PM)
can i conclude that mrta is cheaper than mlta bcos less coverage/benefit?
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Reducing coverage will always cheaper in term of premium compared to level coverage given that both premium are paid in the similar method.
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post Mar 2 2012, 11:46 AM

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QUOTE(chincjx @ Feb 22 2012, 05:37 PM)
All Sifu, if got 36 critical diseases, Mrta or mlta also not claimable?
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It depends on the policy. Usually MRTA doesn't cover 36 CI. Or only provide 36 CI waiver..

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