Welcome Guest ( Log In | Register )

Outline · [ Standard ] · Linear+

> Public hospitals go for Full Pay Patient plan

views
     
FluffyTee
post Nov 6 2016, 02:27 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
339 posts

Joined: Jan 2009


QUOTE(Ibrahimovic @ Nov 6 2016, 02:09 PM)
But there will be issue why nurse, Ho, MO who attend to the patient don't have kickback especially when they did all the dirty works

At least in private,  nurse have 2-3x the salary
*
Though the FPP system has the intention of retaining our trained specialist from leaving government service.. There will be several issues that will arise..
As Ibrahimovic mentioned, only the specialist will get the tip. Other staffs below are MAY NOT receive anything and still forced to do the work. There are some hospitals that pay the staff "locum pay" to compensate for this workers.. But these does not come from the paying patients, and the government will have to cough up the money. It is possible they will disallow this from happening later on.



QUOTE(s@ni @ Nov 6 2016, 02:12 PM)
They got pension..

Heck, even those working for private hospitals want to work for gomen..

Unless oversea such as middle east.. Etc
*
The issue is having alot of trained specialist leaving the government service Its really a no-brainer. Specialist in private are paid 200-500% more than government pay. Even if the doctors are willing to stay, they will end up put their families in debt. No fully self sponsored medical education can pay back their education loan unless they work in private. Pension money is also chicken shit compared to the salary and working life outside.
The only advantage of staying in government service is the semi-immunity against medicolegal cases.


A third issue which i find is the most important issue, is the Bias treatment toward FFP.
In certain hospitals (sorry cant name these hospitals), FFP patients get to cut ques from the non-FFP patients.
Specialist would drop and postpone their other cases to jump at these FFPs.



This post has been edited by FluffyTee: Nov 6 2016, 02:29 PM
FluffyTee
post Nov 6 2016, 02:56 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
339 posts

Joined: Jan 2009


QUOTE(coolstore @ Nov 6 2016, 02:44 PM)
wasn't last time um medical centre and ukm medical center reported cases of senior or specialist being only cater to see ffp, even during daytime visit hour, then juz let junior see non ffp patient. been reported and hospital did send warning letter, don know how now. maybe these already straight move to private already?

if more & more gov hospital offer this scheme, it is seems mandatory ppl go buy medical insurance at all cost, else only c houseman in ward or 'fresh specialist' in specialist clinic.
*
PPUM and PPUKM are considered "semi private". The patients there are also full paying patients but are not the same FFP as in the Ministry of Health hospitals. PPUM and PPUKM are also training centers for Masters and Housemenship, so patients can be attended by Specialist, MO or HO. I have not heard of such warning letters as such as it is meant for the patients to be attended by MO and HOs, Ofcoz the specialist will be monitoring them, just as in government hospitals. The only difference is these centers may have slight higher quality of treatment as their Medical Officers are usually the Selected Masters Student to be specialist in the future.

But speaking of the other hospitals that provide FFPs, there has been ALOT of time where the specialist will order the MO/HO to attend to the FFP patient first. I find this ok IF the specialist is genuinely busy (eg in the middle of surgery), but there has been times, where the specialist are just lazy. But if it is such the case, patients can provide feedback and can request to change to another specialist.


FluffyTee
post Nov 6 2016, 03:03 PM

Casual
***
Junior Member
339 posts

Joined: Jan 2009


QUOTE(arsenwagon @ Nov 6 2016, 02:53 PM)
by right FPP doesnt mean  able to cut queue

however,FPP runs on a separate list from normal elective cases.

and, FPP patients are fewer than non paying patients. so theres literally a shorter queue. coz you only queue with other FPP who are logically fewer than those who dont have the means to pay for FPP treatment.

therefore, in practice, FPP can get earlier treatment.
*
U ve phrase it in another way.. but unfortunately it is happening.. Not all cases are elective, may i remind u. Im not making this up.

Once a hospital has "FFP" they tend to give priority to them.
I ve seen it happen everyday... Eg, the emergency OT is used for FFP patient for an abscess while another patient with acute appendicitis will have to wait until next day with the reason "No OT available", or an MRI appointment for a patient with brain tumor gets a 2month later appointment while some FFP person gets his appointment next day at 8am for an MRI spine for back pain, and all the non-ffp patient who were given 8am appointment have to wait.



This post has been edited by FluffyTee: Nov 6 2016, 03:04 PM

Bump Topic Add ReplyOptions New Topic
 

Change to:
| Lo-Fi Version
0.0152sec    1.05    6 queries    GZIP Disabled
Time is now: 17th December 2025 - 02:27 AM