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darius!
post Nov 6 2016, 11:39 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 5 2016, 05:11 PM)
why need monoshock?

define monoshock please
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mono = single
shock = shock absorber

monoshock = single absorber


why? better ride quality during bumpy cornering, because both left and right swing arms travel are equally balanced..

if using dual shock (each shock at each swing arm), both swing arms travel will not balance, one goes down or goes up more than the other....

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Advantages of Dual Shocks:

* Carries extra load.
* Absorbs bumps well.
* Gives a smoother ride through rough terrain.
* Costs cheaper to service and maintain.
* Reduces load off the chassis.

Advantages of Mono Shocks:

* Better Cornering and Highway stability.
* Allows higher suspension and swingarm travel.
* Eliminate torque to the swingarm.
* Easy to tune and adjust.
* Better handling and ride ability.

Disadvantages of Dual Shocks:

* Travel matching is tough.
* Does not provide proper cornering confidence.
* Ride is compromised at high speed.

Disadvantages of Mono Shocks:

* Cost of ownership and maintenance is high.
* Cannot carry excess load.
* Can give in and have the bike stranded.
* Age of monoshocks is less.

darius!
post Nov 7 2016, 12:32 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 7 2016, 08:42 AM)
which scooter is having a monoshock? and good at cornering?

owh by the way...which scooter u currently own
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i think lots of scooters and mopeds uses monoshock.
i dun have scooter, used to own

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but i sell it cos too old, and wiring kaput, plus spare part is quite rare and expensive, not alot of pomen can do this bike, all headache..
blame malaysian moped market, cos this bike is small bike, but using DOHC engine, and using 3 phase wiring system, all digital lcd meter panel, oil cooled etc.. so much advanced..
maintaining my brand new axia is much cheaper headache free...

but i learn alot of diy when using this bike, i learn many bike stuff which i will never learn if i bought brand new bike.. (i got this bike second hand)

oh yes, this bike using monoshock too, infact big bikes almost all using monoshock, unless it is a cafe/oldschool look bike like kawasaki w800 style bike..


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post Nov 7 2016, 02:47 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 7 2016, 01:28 PM)
this is not scooter bro...and usually...scooter engine is in the middle...and there is no room to place a monoshock there...
for a scooter...a "monoshock" is place on the left side only llike picture i share here...n its performance are not tat good either...

been using a lot of scooter before...and from my own experience twin shock provides better handling...i am comparing between yamaha ego vs nouvo s...
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sideshock also consider monoshock.
see er6n or versys
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post Nov 7 2016, 02:54 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 7 2016, 01:28 PM)
this is not scooter bro...and usually...scooter engine is in the middle...and there is no room to place a monoshock there...
for a scooter...a "monoshock" is place on the left side only llike picture i share here...n its performance are not tat good either...

been using a lot of scooter before...and from my own experience twin shock provides better handling...i am comparing between yamaha ego vs nouvo s...
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i dont think u fully understood what i am trying to tell you.

your yamaha ego vs nouvo s... is diff category bike,
of course nouvo being better since its using larger tires..
and your ego s shock pun maybe cap ayam or original kilang punya..
if u want to compare, compare similar design..

maybe yamaha lagenda vs lc135..
modenas gt 128 vs modenas kriss 1..

u will feel the difference..

infact changing absorber on the same bike also will feel alot difference,
example, stock mono on lc135, vs ohlins aftermarket lc135
darius!
post Nov 7 2016, 03:50 PM

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QUOTE(crash123 @ Nov 7 2016, 03:04 PM)
Yamaha ego vs nouvo>different category?
Kek
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dey tambi, u takda sekolah ka?
tayar nouvo besar mana dol..

asal skuter, semua sama? kek,
kalau macam tu, yamaha tmax 500 = yamaha passola
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post Nov 7 2016, 06:59 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 7 2016, 04:08 PM)
bang kite sembang dlm thread scooter bang...bukan thread motosikal full size

sorry bang...kalau full size punye bike kami mmg tau boleh letak mono antara swing arm dan chassis

scooter tade full size swing arm bang...so sebelah kiri itu tempat cvt transmision...like ego single shock blah kiri...

balik pada cerita nvx ni...nvx ni kene pakai dual shock utk bagi kestabilan kepada bahagian belakang scooter tersebut...

yamaha lagenda tu scooter ke bang? lc135 tu sama segmen dgn NVX ni ke bang?

adoiyai nye pon... shakehead.gif sembang mcm ckp kancil itu kecil...baik amek lori baru besar...

anyway u win bang sebab u compare NVX 155 which a SCOOTER dgn full size bike FXR150...
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bila masa aku banding skuter dengan fxr, aku cakap aku takda skuter, pernah naik orang punya, moto aku fxr150 je, aku tak compare pun dengan skuter ego bodoh kau tu.

nak pakai dual shock pun kena ada double sided swing arm,
kalau moto single arm nak pakai dual shock mcm mana..

kestabilan tengkorak kau, monoshock lagi stabil dari dual shock,
umpama multilink dengan torsion beam..
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post Nov 8 2016, 01:03 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 11:50 AM)
kah kah kah...ok bang u win.. rclxm9.gif

saye takde ego bang...jgn main serkap jarang...n moto FXR 150 abg tu mmg laju bang...serius...R1 pon boleh potong saye tau bang...

lain kali kalau tatau pasal scooter jgn memandai nak condemn bang...

abg nak compare RXZ dgn FXR abg bole laa bang...

scooter chassis lain bang...contoh mcm bawah ni...ade je swing arm sebelah lagi satu...so boleh dpt twinshock kat situ...anyway...abg win la bang...ok? saya kalah bang...

tp sorry ye bang...saye tak bodoh...sorry ye bang..bawak mengucap byk2 bang...solat semua bang ye...sejukkan hati...
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Kalau dpt twinshock pun, layan kona ada bump ttp goyang inul

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post Nov 8 2016, 01:04 PM

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QUOTE(max_cavalera @ Nov 8 2016, 09:41 AM)
Wow tq for the info bro.

Didnt know much about scoot scoot before this
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Takleh pakai info dia
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post Nov 8 2016, 02:03 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 01:11 PM)
rilex / dont care / whatever thumbup.gif

god of scooter who never own a scooter and bragging about how good FXR monoshock is...

ur bike also pawned below bike cos its twinshock...and honda must be stupid not hire you as "ride n handling engineer" n u should be with one of the motogp engineer

owh...that is factory fitted showa shox as standard...u still win bro...u win!!!

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dah bodo, tak nak sekolah pulak, ini lah jadinya
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post Nov 8 2016, 04:08 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 02:18 PM)
so your bike monosyiok is superior than this showa factory fitted twinshock ke bro?

u win bro...u win... rclxms.gif
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bosan do cakap dengan org merapu.
baca balik apa aku tulis,
baca balik apa ko tulis.

adakah apa yang aku tulis tu kena mengena dengan apa yg ko pikir ko tahu?
ko dah kelaut bro..

pegi skolah
setakat letak smiley tpuk tangan dan komen u win u win tak menjadikan ko betul bro..


fyi, moto cb400
wlaupun pakai showa ke ohlins ke, dah design dia dual shock,
tetap goyang inul masa layan koner,

nak sedap kena cari moto yang dari kilang dah design dengan monoshock,
bukan saja jenis monoshock,
tapi teknologi swing arm juga main peranan
contohnya Prolink dari Honda, dan Unitrak dari Kawasaki,,

design ini akan mengurangkan suspension travel berbanding swingarm bodoh yang terus dipasang suspension atau monoshock, sekaligus memanjangkan hayat suspension dan tak perlu setting suspension yang besar gabak kalau nak keras..


arrghh, kalau aku cakap pun bukan ko paham, ko pikir kelaut, dasar bodoh tak boleh ajar, camni la keyboard warrior sampah masakini

This post has been edited by darius!: Nov 8 2016, 04:18 PM
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post Nov 8 2016, 04:29 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 04:26 PM)
rclxm9.gif enjoice!
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woi, dah bodo tu membaca la sikit,

http://www.carbibles.com/suspension_bible_bikes.html

ko baca kat situ, mana yang dia tunjuk dual shock lagi superior dari monoshock?


skolah tak habis, nak peleceh orang...
aku ok je kalau ko bodoh, tapi cakap elok elok,
ni tak, dah bodoh, sombong, lepas tu duk jaja kebodohan dengan suspension cb400 showa kau tu... lolololo...

ko ingat brand showa je, kira superior habis la tu walaupun sistem suspension yg diguna tu zaman tuk kaduk?

bingai..
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post Nov 8 2016, 04:35 PM

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QUOTE(Perfect.Stranger @ Nov 8 2016, 04:30 PM)
Ohlins ke WP best bang??
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mana mana pun boleh, ikut modal..

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post Nov 8 2016, 04:36 PM

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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 04:26 PM)
rclxm9.gif enjoice!
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QUOTE(Daniel John @ Nov 8 2016, 04:31 PM)
u win bro rclxms.gif
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aih, tanda tanda orang sentap, dia single liner je..
kira betul la tu ko cam bodo kan..

kakakkakaka

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