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post Nov 20 2018, 01:10 AM

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QUOTE(TristanX @ Nov 19 2018, 02:44 PM)
C-Zone promo:
POWER COLOR RX560 4G RED DRAGON 590
POWER COLOR RX570 4G RED DRAGON 699
POWER COLOR RX570 4G RED DEVIL 699
POWER COLOR RX570 8G MINING OEM 599
POWER COLOR RX VEGA 64 8G RED DEVIL 2500
SAPPHIRE RX570 4G PULSE ITX 650
SAPPHIRE RX570 4G NITRO+ 699
SAPPHIRE RX570 8G PULSE 799
SAPPHIRE RX570 8G NITRO+ 799
SAPPHIRE RX580 4G D5 NITRO+ 799

Price of that RX560 is silly.
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Bought SAPPHIRE RX580 4G D5 NITRO+ last friday...now need to invest for new psu, current psu 500watt is 8year old and dont have 8pin cry.gif

I realize this Sapphire rx580 need 6+8 pin connector...and I asked in Sapphire FB, they said 6pin is optional. Can work with 8pin only but better plug both for overclock.

AMD Ryzen processor also got price cut...Ryzen 2600 price around RM650
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post Nov 20 2018, 12:04 PM

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QUOTE(ferhan83e @ Nov 20 2018, 01:10 AM)
AMD Ryzen processor also got price cut...Ryzen 2600 price around RM650
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If only good DDR4 doesn't cost a kidney, i probably upgrade to 2600 or 2700.
shirohamada
post Nov 20 2018, 03:08 PM

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QUOTE(ferhan83e @ Nov 20 2018, 01:10 AM)
Bought SAPPHIRE RX580 4G D5 NITRO+ last friday...now need to invest for new psu, current psu 500watt is 8year old and dont have 8pin  cry.gif

I realize this Sapphire rx580 need 6+8 pin connector...and I asked in Sapphire FB, they said 6pin is optional. Can work with 8pin only but better plug both for overclock.

AMD Ryzen processor also got price cut...Ryzen 2600 price around RM650
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6pin is optional.
I suggest undervolting.
Lots of voltage overhead.
Bought my r5 2600 for rm630 in aug. Price 8ncreased.

This post has been edited by shirohamada: Nov 20 2018, 03:11 PM
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post Nov 20 2018, 03:11 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 20 2018, 12:04 PM)
If only good DDR4 doesn't cost a kidney, i probably upgrade to 2600 or 2700.
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8gb sticj.
Hyperx 2666 cl16 rm 260.was rm303 in aug. Oc to 2866 1.2v.
Gskill 3200 cl16 rm320.
Price came down.
Songchien
post Nov 20 2018, 07:08 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 20 2018, 03:11 PM)
8gb sticj.
Hyperx 2666 cl16 rm 260.was rm303 in aug. Oc to 2866 1.2v.
Gskill 3200 cl16 rm320.
Price came down.
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Gskill 3200 cl16 rm320? where do you see this? Tridentz ?

Also is it ok to buy 2 of it separately instead of paying for a pair?

Cuz I see a pair is more expensive than buying separately. Wanna run in dual channel.
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post Nov 20 2018, 08:02 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 20 2018, 12:04 PM)
If only good DDR4 doesn't cost a kidney, i probably upgrade to 2600 or 2700.
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Those DRAM/NAND makers need some hefty fines for price fixing, they're just hampering the PC industry and progress.
shirohamada
post Nov 20 2018, 08:18 PM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ Nov 20 2018, 07:08 PM)
Gskill 3200 cl16 rm320? where do you see this? Tridentz ?

Also is it ok to buy 2 of it separately instead of paying for a pair?

Cuz I see a pair is more expensive than buying separately. Wanna run in dual channel.
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lazada.
not tridentz. i think ripjaws.
it's probably not samseng b die.

yes. you can buy separately like i did. it will dual channel.

the thing is, i've checked all the 3200 cl16 rams. they're all running at 1.35v might as well overclock it myself.
i don't think paying extra rm60-70 per stick is worth it.

get this and overclock for cheapest. i bought this, and will probably buy it again if i'm building today. oc it myself.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s634973656.html

2933 cl15 for a little bit more money. 1.35v
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s645660582.html


https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ballisti...s648479813.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/crucial-...s632909929.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/gskill-r...s471412596.html

get this if you don't want to mess around.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hyperx-p...s637845057.html

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post Nov 21 2018, 06:27 AM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 20 2018, 08:18 PM)
lazada.
not tridentz. i think ripjaws.
it's probably not samseng b die.

yes. you can buy separately like i did. it will dual channel.

the thing is, i've checked all the 3200 cl16 rams. they're all running at 1.35v might as well overclock it myself.
i don't think paying extra rm60-70 per stick is worth it.

get this and overclock for cheapest. i bought this, and will probably buy it again if i'm building today. oc it myself.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s634973656.html

2933 cl15 for a little bit more money. 1.35v
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s645660582.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ballisti...s648479813.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/crucial-...s632909929.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/gskill-r...s471412596.html

get this if you don't want to mess around.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hyperx-p...s637845057.html
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The thing is not all of these can confirm reach 3200 right?
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post Nov 21 2018, 01:21 PM

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QUOTE(Songchien @ Nov 21 2018, 06:27 AM)
The thing is not all of these can confirm reach 3200 right?
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the bottom most link is rated 3200 cl16.

mine can reach 3200. but i left it at 2866 because wanna save a watt of electricity at 1.2V.
:^)

if you want a peace of mind, just pay up.
ram prices will continue coming down though. we're not at the bottom yet.

This post has been edited by shirohamada: Nov 21 2018, 01:21 PM
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post Nov 21 2018, 02:31 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 20 2018, 08:18 PM)
lazada.
not tridentz. i think ripjaws.
it's probably not samseng b die.

yes. you can buy separately like i did. it will dual channel.

the thing is, i've checked all the 3200 cl16 rams. they're all running at 1.35v might as well overclock it myself.
i don't think paying extra rm60-70 per stick is worth it.

get this and overclock for cheapest. i bought this, and will probably buy it again if i'm building today. oc it myself.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s634973656.html

2933 cl15 for a little bit more money. 1.35v
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/kingston...s645660582.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/ballisti...s648479813.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/crucial-...s632909929.html
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/gskill-r...s471412596.html

get this if you don't want to mess around.
https://www.lazada.com.my/products/hyperx-p...s637845057.html
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Not enough bling-bling. laugh.gif jk

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post Nov 21 2018, 04:05 PM

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QUOTE(Acid_RuleZz @ Nov 21 2018, 02:31 PM)
Not enough bling-bling.  laugh.gif jk

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as if regular DDR4 ram isn't expensive enough, this kind of bling went too far.
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post Nov 21 2018, 06:31 PM

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QUOTE(1024kbps @ Nov 21 2018, 04:05 PM)
as if regular DDR4 ram isn't expensive enough, this kind of bling went too far.
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I blame youtube.
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post Nov 21 2018, 10:45 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 21 2018, 01:21 PM)
the bottom most link is rated 3200 cl16.

mine can reach 3200. but i left it at 2866 because wanna save a watt of electricity at 1.2V.
:^)

if you want a peace of mind, just pay up.
ram prices will continue coming down though. we're not at the bottom yet.
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Yeah. Running ryzen 1600x. Seems like the sweet spot is 3200mhz for ryzen
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post Nov 23 2018, 11:19 AM

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Tomhardware Dutch sibling measured undervolted RX590 power consumption and the card eat 20%-30% less power around 1.4ghz-1.55ghz clock speed.
Of course this is just one sample size so your mileage may vary.

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post Nov 23 2018, 12:36 PM

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You can even undervolt at 1.6ghz.
Huehuehue.
1.15v is just too much.
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post Nov 23 2018, 01:23 PM

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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 23 2018, 12:36 PM)
You can even undervolt at 1.6ghz.
Huehuehue.
1.15v is just too much.
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Yes but power drop is minimal i guess. IINM 1v is the target for most silicon.
Undervolting is similar to overclocking, different chip behave differently. I remember my old 290x could hit 1.1ghz even with -75mV.
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https://www.tomshw.de/2018/11/22/effizenzve...ing-igorslab/2/

just eyeballing the curve, i'm not gonna measure the slope, the rx590 peak efficiency is between 1450 to 1500MHz when undervolted.

and the gigabutt 580 peak efficiency at 1300. it is probably not the best asic quality.
if i have to guess, around 65% asic.
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post Nov 26 2018, 02:07 PM

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Any official pricing for the 590?
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QUOTE(shirohamada @ Nov 23 2018, 02:20 PM)
https://www.tomshw.de/2018/11/22/effizenzve...ing-igorslab/2/

just eyeballing the curve, i'm not gonna measure the slope, the rx590 peak efficiency is between 1450 to 1500MHz when undervolted.

and the gigabutt 580 peak efficiency at 1300. it is probably not the best asic quality.
if i have to guess, around 65% asic.
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Reading the article you linked you are right.
Peak efficiency for the 590 is 1500Mhz with 30% gain (vs. stock) and 1300Mhz for the 580 with ~17%.
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https://www.gamersnexus.net/hwreviews/3405-...review-dataland
cheating?
Why they always use naming to cheat ppl?

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