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 FundSuperMart v16 (FSM) MY : Online UT Platform, UT DIY : Babystep to Investing :D

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prince_mk
post Oct 28 2016, 07:50 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2016, 06:30 PM)
believe me or not I gained experience in FSM from all those threads you guys made and from there I charted the ups and downs, mistakes and success, see who's school of thought in investing  is the most logical and of course to see who's the troll amongst the big fish.

or subsequently to cut short the bullshit just copy paste xuzen or pinkspider portfolio kao kao not
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alrdy bullish on their portfolio since few mths ago.

but don't bullish blindly 100%. make your judgement and decision wisely too. our hard earn money.
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post Oct 28 2016, 07:52 PM

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called up FSM office today. was allowed to switch frm Affin Aiman PRS to Kenanga PRS but with penalty of RM25.
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post Oct 28 2016, 08:49 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 28 2016, 08:39 PM)
Let's look at this objectively.

You are already heavy in KGF and Kap-chai UTF, both that are Malaysia centric. ASX FP UTF is also Malaysian stock market centric. If that is the case, you are what the finance professional termed "Concentration risk". Too much of a good thing can also be bad.

You may want to consider diversifying away from Malaysia exposure.

Lately we have been talking about foreign exposed UTF in this thread. You will know which one to go for. No need for me to repeat.

Xuzen
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time to go for Asia Ex Japan smile.gif as promoted in the FSM website. 40% upside by the end of 2018.

thanks Sifu Xuzen.
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post Oct 28 2016, 08:54 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2016, 08:49 PM)
in short.

your ASx, kenanga and kapcap are over lapping funds essentially

diversify diversify diversify.
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ok boss. time to diversify. lately I alrdy bought Titan alrdy. will do more balancing in b4 year end.

but sayang to sell my EISCF. tongue.gif

thanks again.

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post Oct 28 2016, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2016, 09:30 PM)
just keep kap chai la bro. don't be like me. I see not good I go switch 6 months the road the fund NAV goes up. I kept shooting myself in the foot and this ain't the first.

first was ponzi 2.0
then it was Titanic

from there I learnt not to follow other people and keep rolling on ahead

keep it there and divert your investment somewhere else.
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I used to have many overlapping funds. Thanks to some sifu here and Bro Xuzen. They all guided me to have a balance diversified portfolio.

Will do some reading and sharing frm other forum members too.
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post Oct 28 2016, 10:22 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2016, 09:47 PM)
best comment to follow is from T33H on his risk ratio to percentage of the portfolio into each fund. I'm going along with that.

FSM Funds

Libra Asnita Bond.... (25%)

RHB Asian Income Fund. ....(20%)

Eastspring Investments Small-Cap Fund ...... (10%)

TA Global Technology Fund... (15%)

CIMB-P Greater China Equity .....(5%)

CIMB-P Asia Pac (ponzi 2.0) ......(20%)

Manulife India.........(5 %)

AmAsia REITs .... (5%)

I agree with this portfolio because it suits my train of thought that we should have a somewhat foundation in our motherland.
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Wonderful portfolio. Will try to imitate this.

D main reasons I m heavy in KGF due to purchase via epf monies.

Cash were invested in RHB ATRF, Greater China, Amasia Reits.

I used to have Ponzi 1 and 2 but sold alrdy.

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post Oct 28 2016, 10:32 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 28 2016, 10:26 PM)
to me I always avoided Kenanga or big malaysia funds because my EPF is already investing in them. no point I diversify fsm portfolio when another investment of mine is already heavily investing in Malaysia.

something we need to consider too
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How do u knw epf invested in these big funds? Really ah?

Then i should hav diversified into overseas exposed funds.
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post Oct 29 2016, 08:29 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Oct 29 2016, 05:40 PM)
The NAV for TAGTF on 10/10/2016 is MYR 0.7335 per unit. The unit split happened on 11/10/2016. The NAV for TAGTF on 11/10/2016 that is post unit split became MYR 0.6092

If one has 10,000 units originally his NAV would be 10,000 x 0.7335 = MYR 7,335.00 ====> (A)

Due to unit split of 1 units per 5, he will get 10,000/5 = 2,000 new units. The total units then became 10,000 + 2,000 = 12,000 units.

The new NAV becomes 12,000 x 0.6092 = MYR 7,310.40.====> (B)

Now take a look at the NAV (A) & (B). From this do you see that the actual value is lebih-kurang sama aje! Although you will say the NAV has dropped, but for someone who is actually holding the unit prior to the units split; it does not seem that way.

Hence, do not be deluded that it is cheap or otherwise. The NAV drop is engineered by the UTMC, it is not due to actual drop in its underlying asset price. In another word, the drop in NAV is a manipulation by the UTF management company.

Xuzen

p/s (IMPORTANT NOTE): Actual cheap or otherwise is not determine by the NAV face value per se. Look to its underlying asset to determine. In the absence of knowing the actual underlying asset, then look at the fund benchmark for guidance.
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Oh..it was nt determine by the price. Now only I know.

Where to refer on the underlying asset? Financial statement?

Thanks Sifu Xuzen.

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post Oct 29 2016, 08:43 PM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Oct 29 2016, 04:04 PM)
I am only 5 mins away.. why no invite me..  cry.gif
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Come and join me.why not?
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post Oct 30 2016, 10:11 AM

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My portfolio as at Oct 2016.

Time to trim some funds. To add more Asia Ex Japan funds - Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 into it before 10 Nov.


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post Oct 30 2016, 10:33 AM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 30 2016, 10:31 AM)
Simple Asset Allocation test - also good, no need no stress/pick gila nor crystal balls tongue.gif :
1. Equities, Developed Market:
CIMB Global Titans 17%
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2. Equities, Emerging Market:
Eastspring Global Emerging Markets 17%
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3. Equities, Real Estate
AmAsia Pacific REITs 33%
.
4. Fixed Income, Bond (can also be represented by EPF)
Libra AsnitaBond 22%
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5. Fixed Income, Money Market (can also be represented by Flexi Mortgage)
RHB Cash Management 2 11%

http://iportfolio.com.my/snapshot?cntp=5&f...22000&readp4=TZ
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Boss,

No KGF or EISCF?
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post Oct 30 2016, 07:04 PM

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QUOTE(wongmunkeong @ Oct 30 2016, 05:05 PM)
have U seen REITs going down >30%-40% ar?
if not, please don't state stuff like that..
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Boss,

Are u refering to US reits? Which country?
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post Oct 31 2016, 05:46 PM

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Before US election, to top up

Manulife US, Titan and TA Global.

U guys not top up these funds?
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post Nov 2 2016, 07:47 PM

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what do you guys topup this week ?

Ponzi 1 and Ponzi 2 only ?
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post Nov 4 2016, 11:29 AM

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Can start topup ponzi2?

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post Nov 4 2016, 12:31 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Nov 4 2016, 11:59 AM)
Lai Lai, place your bet, place your bet!

By next week, we shall know.... only less than a week nia.... so kan cheong hor!

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What else do your crystall ball show ?

Then at d moment I will topup RHB AIF. Not so much on Ponzi 2. Perhaps Ponzi 1 is better choice.
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post Nov 4 2016, 09:34 PM

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QUOTE(yck1987 @ Nov 4 2016, 06:37 PM)
Yes, good time to chip in imo expecially in this uncertainty period (US election + FED rate hike). I'm taking action already more on sgx stocks.
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me also alrdy remitted RM to SG acc tongue.gif loaded d ammo
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post Nov 6 2016, 06:24 PM

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Just switched all my KGF (purchased via cash) to Kenanga Bond fund. Later will park this into Asnita bond fund. Too heavy in KGF and also to diversify into Asia Ex Japan region.
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post Nov 6 2016, 09:49 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Nov 6 2016, 06:42 PM)
why not just switch immediately to Anita

sell order t+3. buy order t+3.

then another round of sell and buy.

that's in total 9 days and we haven't counted the two weekends which is in total 11 days. that's 11 days of your money not doing anything aside moving up and down.

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Nov 6 2016, 07:25 PM)
No plans yet... keep in CMF for now
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Keep in RHB ATRF wise choice?

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