Hi All, as title above. wanted to know if the majority of you willing to leave your spare tire in car boot or leave it at home.

Purpose for lighter vehicle and better fuel consumption.

Comment please.


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No, i leave it on my passenger seat...

What a weird question you are asking..for your weird question, you will get my weird answer.

If one day your tyre puncture, you call your parents/wife to bring a tyre to you ar?!

LoL

sapre tayar only weight 15 - 20kg max

u better clean up your car and throw the rubbish and save more weight

plus 20kg ain't gonna make any diff to your FC

if u leave at home then on the road your tayar pancit mcm na?
better fuel consumption???jalan kaki ja laaa

The next time tell your car SE to give you discount because you told him you don't want the spare tyre.

its funny question
its like u purposely join a weight loss program for saving FC
wat do u think a 1x KG spare tyre will save u ton of fuel?

If i want to racing2 i will remove it

I think you will gain like 0.5%-1% better fuel economy from removing the spare tyre.

The gain's insignificant, there are better ways to save fuel out there, yo!

If every kg counts till wanna abandon spare tyre... the car no need drive liao. sell for scrap better.

For better FC, the rear seat should be removed as well! Easily save15L per tank full!

Rather than reducing car weight, reduce your own weight lol

Pretty sure this question belong to /k

Best answer ..

here is my two cents of how to save fuel ..

1. No .. u dont remove spare tire.. instead .. use them .. get another 3 .. throw ur current one .. smaller tires less friction .. save more fuel
2. Remove un-use seats .. put a few mamak stall plastic chairs when there is passenger.
3. keep fit .. yourself
4. pee, shit before you drive your car. it might weight up to 500g or more..
5. try not to drink so much water before u drive.. 1L water almost 1kg weight
6. long pants.. jacket .. No please.. its heavy .. singlet and boxer pants recommended.
7. .. and the list goes on ..

cabut..

For better fuel consumption, here are my tips:
1. Fill your car tank FULL on Sunday.
2. Take LRT to go to work from Monday to Friday.
3. Go inside your precious car and look at your fuel gauge.
4. It's FULL.
5. Fantastic fuel consumption unlocked!
6. Repeat step #2.

Reply semua macam /k. Funny Ts

what to do .. he try to remove a 10kg thing to save fuel..

might as well . kurang makan a nasi lemak ayam everynight (save RM6-8) .. can buy 4 Liter fuel . can loose weight .. which contribute to better FC also

inb4 TS gemok

better you remove your car seats, save more weight there

my spare tyre is 20 years old and will not fit any of my wheels haha. It will not bolt on due to some unique clearance + weird rim choice issues.

I still keep my spare in the boot to reduce 'sounds'... yeah sounds weird but its true... you should try it. also sort of works as something to get squashed in event i get rear ended.

wana add that, generally speaking, most car's rear seats aint that heavy... its the front seats which are heaviest.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 17 2016, 01:35 PM

Buy a motorbike.

Advice TS to lose 15-20 kg weight so you can keep the spare tyre in the boot. Apa sarahan spare tyre

Ricer will.

What spare tyre?

I thought all Merc comes with runflats and no spares?

I dont find it funny and in fact I agree with TS. Most new cars in Japan/Taiwan doesnt come with spare tyres, but instead, car manufacturer provide tyre inflators as standard to reduce the unnecessary weight and space which also improve FC. However, those countries has better road side service just in case you punctured the tyre.

Which makes me thinking, alot of people dont even maintain their spare tyre or even know how to change a tyre. So whats the point of having spare tyre in the car right? Hahaha.

yea.. we know .. we suggesting more option for TS .. so his main concern is FC ma..

do u know its kind of "illegal" to be fat in japan ?

The Metabo law

if u don know someone still can change it for u
if u don have 1 who gonna "lend" u?
besides, i think most of guy know how to change it ,or just follow manual will do ,the tools is already there ,when nobody can help atleast u can try to figure out

This post has been edited by TamashiiHeroes: Oct 17 2016, 04:37 PM

if you run without spare tire, just keep the insurance number in your speed dail, or AAM, if you have 1....

i am using swift sport, it doesn't come with spare tire from factory. I already kena flat tire 3-4 times in the time i own the car (6 years)..

trust me, its really troublesome.

you must pray to the gods of tyres..... then u wont get flats!.... touchwood,ayam no kene flat tyre b4 in my 4 years driving

can. spend more on run flat tires lor.. can save FC ..

lol!! brilliant!! ts should do this technically save on fc kan hehe
not suitable for poorfags like me tho...

i bring it in my boot
together with all the tools
i dont wanna be stranded and my fam is far from me

To safe the weight... fill your car to only half tank...

if remove d .... then JPJ stop inspect got problem ar ??

So TS got nothing to say after opening of this thread?

Aerodynamics, EO viscosity and your right foot makes a much bigger difference to FC. Spare tire more for handling. But considering the number of times it's happened to me or I help ppl at the side of the road, I would bring it with me. Even go further and only buy car with full size spare (getting rarer these days).
Pulled over to help this family in a Jazz Hybrid going to the airport. Ask where the spare they give me this electric inflator, but they dunno where the wire that powers it, dunno how to use, we just stand there like idiots. Anyway useless la the inflator, no way can last even 10km.

Also spare tire is designed as part of the sound dampening of your car. Removing it will make your car louder inside.

All the comments above are true that rather than havign a risk of getting stranded if you have a puncture then carry a spare. Want to save fuel or improve performance, then lighten somewhere else for example not to fuel up to the max, say reduce by 15-20ltrs to compensate the spare tire weight.

However, make sure that you all know how to change tire, ensure the spare tire is still inflated enough, know the proper technique to maximize your power to loosen up the lug nuts, and the tire lug nuts are not over tightened by the shops impact gun! How many of you can ensure all those so that you will 100% be able to change to spare? I'm quite sure many very rarely check your spare if at all, and most never tell or keep an eye on the shops when they tighten up your rims. If you don't then no point carrying a spare tire coz that means it will be useless anyway when you need it! For me, it's even a better idea if you also carry an electric pump to plug into the cigarette lighter in case you somehow cannot replace with your spare for one of the reason above.

This post has been edited by 6UE5T: Oct 17 2016, 11:22 PM

This is the best feedback I got here. Nice one.

My car dun have spare tyre...

Bro....change all yr tyres to rft . You dont need the spare tyre.
Cheers

there are alot of ppl making fun of you...but its something i do too. I removed spare tire,head rests, etc all unnecessary weight, combined total was 30+kg

cos i dont plan to change tire by the side of a busy highway, too risky, nowadays all insurance offer free 24/7 towing.

most modern cars all have TPMS, last 3 times i got puncture, TPMS allowed me to easily get to a workshop b4 it went flat. For all the ppl telling you to keep spare in case of emergencies, i bet most of them dont know where thier jack is located...or where the lock nut is...or how to change a spare.

im a old fart that come from a generation of drivers where we had no choice, we had to know how to change tires, cos no such thing as easy towing, and way before the days of PLUS RONDA. So i can safely say majority of young farts nowadays, have no idea how much torque it takes to loosen lug nuts, if you have never done it before

This post has been edited by jwrx: Oct 17 2016, 11:27 PM

I also suspect the same, that's why I mentioned in my post above as well.

its a malaysian thing....you look at how bad condition of the normal 4 tires is, you already know the spare in the boot has never been inflated in years, or checked for condition.

Also ppl dun realise that a normal person is no way strong enuff to fit a spare into a SUV like a HRV or CRV etc...and yet..thats what many women drive. A spare would be useless.

No it isn't useless. If you can't change the spare yourself you can call for assistance to help. Some of the highway patrol units are quite helpful. If you don't have a spare you need a tow which is a whole different cost to solve a simple problem.

see my comment re condition of spare tire for majority of malaysians. I have called alliance towing twice last 3 years for battery issue, both times, a tow truck reached me under 20min, im ok with response time like that. (foc as well)

Anyway, its moot point for me, i havent owned a car that comes with a spare in 8 years.....since my scirocco back in 2007

Alliance or Allianz? I didn't know a bank offers free towing service.

Interested in the free towing service, do enlighten us.

allianz, almost every single insurance provider now provides 24/7, no question asked free towing, as part of a full comprehensive insurance package

i find the allianz service very professional....u call, they pick up within 2 rings, they confirm your location, and they will call you back to give ETA of tow truck...you will also receive a SMS with tow truk ETA and license plate within a few min

part of the reason AAM is dying...they cant really compete, why pay extra for AAM membership

This post has been edited by jwrx: Oct 18 2016, 09:57 AM

Good stuff

lol, this is actually very true.
someone told me that he almost died changing the tyre on his kimchi suv. The rims are way way too heavy. He got a shock when asked the sc about the rims and were told those were 'lightweights'.... i guess their definition of lightweights were very diferent from ours.

TS, I suggest you to go on diet, leave the spare tyre where it belongs.

30kg in weight makes no difference to the fuel consumption. I think you will gain more from wiper delete, spoiler delete and pizza pan wheel covers... Seriously.

Calling a tow truck for a flat is just too much. I'm not sure about you, everyone that went through driving lesson have to go trough the tire changing lesson. So how, can someone say they don't know how to change a spare? Even the car manual has a comprehensive guide on how to change a spare.

Tpms I agree, you can monitor your pressure and if one tire is giving funny signals, you know it's time to check. But knowing how many cars in Malaysia without Tpms, running without a spare is just stupid.

of course it does, every kg off your vehicle helps. A Myvi is only 980kg, 30 kg is almost 5% weight reduction.

http://www.autoblog.com/2009/10/29/greenli...les-efficiency/

it actually depends... for stop and go traffic, weight plays an important factor, but for highway travel, it doesn't make a mere difference, aero mod would make more difference.

again, its 30kg.

980kg is dry weight, what about wet weight? why not just pump rm10 of fuel just to maximize each km-weight ratio?

This post has been edited by xemoboyx: Oct 18 2016, 07:37 PM

Hold up, I don't think a Myvi's spare tyre and kit weigh more than 30kg. They should be a lot lighter than that.

thats where you are wrong, weight makes the most difference at highway speeds. weight reduction is a fun and fulfilling hobby for some, spare tire is just the easy part, followed by lightweight sport batteries, forged rims, carbon fibre hood/trunk, lighter suspension components etc.

FC is just 1 benefit of weight reduction...the car handles better, takes off faster, less wear and tear on tires and components

No one is forcing you to do it, just making ppl aware that there are ppl who do it, and its not 'silly'.

Look at BMW //M and Porsche lightweight offerings, GTS and GT3 etc...they charge alot of money for 50-80kg of weight savings.

This post has been edited by jwrx: Oct 18 2016, 09:08 PM

the 30kg i mentioned was for my car, but for a myvi, its not difficult to find 30kg in weight savings

Well you'll be surprised! People can understand the theory but can they REALLY do it?? Do most people also really know the proper technique to maximize their strength when loosening up a very tight lug nut without ruining it using the standard tool provided (which is normally the case coz most are tighten using impact gun)?? That's not told in the manual I believe. Even if it's taught somewhere, again can they really do it, or have they tried it?? I think many don't know and/or don't bother to try it and when comes time that they have a flat and they really need to do it, end up many cannot do it!

tyre left at home is not spare tyre ady. Spare tyre must stay with the car.

Some agreed and some disagreed: my pov is that, throughout my driving experience in MY roads (for road conditions at my frequent places), I do not face much problem with punctured tyres. I have managed to change spare tyres few times in overseas. It is suggested that new car and lady owners to have tyre changing drill during weekend before facing the challenging roads. Frankly speaking, it is not an easy chore. Like mentioned above, try to change tyre yourself and you will discover that most of the tyre shop will overtorque those tyre nuts! And prepare an extension to be able to remove these overtorqued nuts (using fulcrum principle) and it is really not easy, even for a guy like me! Currently, I do plan to remove the spare tyre as I do carry quite a lot of work related stuffs and feel that it is really redundant. I have an inflator which I use during emergency. Furthermore, most of the people I asked they will struggle till next tyre shop available and calling a tow is easy nowadays.

Even though it can be hard to change a tyre I will still leave it in the car. Going through some difficulty changing a tyre is better than calling a tow truck. You may be able to get some help from your passengers, passer-bys, or call for help. The FC saved is probably inconsequential and not worth storing the tyre in your house. Check your tyre pressure regularly as under inflated tyres have a significant impact on FC.

It's a good idea to keep a 12V tyre inflator in your car. You may be able to pump up a flat tyre sufficiently for you to make it to the nearest tyre shop. However if the puncture is severe and the air is lost quickly it is probably no help. If the air has been leaking out slowly without your knowledge this can be a life saver.

If you get a flat at night forget about changing it unless you are in a safe area. You can still drive on a flat tyre slowly until you reach a safe area like a petrol station. Your tyre may be damaged beyond repair but better to give up one tyre than risk being robbed. If you are far from anywhere like on a highway stay in your car and call a tow truck.

Yes, I also so far only once need to change tire in MY (and that's also for my wife's car) but had done so a few times before in other countries. Yes it is not an easy task especially if the nuts are over tighten by the shops. That's why I said you need to know the right technique to do it, not just having an extension btw. That's why I also said at least you need to try it to get a feel of how to do it. I myself also supervise shops when they tighten up my rims to make sure they don't over tighten them so I can be 100% confident that I myself can remove them using standard wrench with minor extension. I bet most people don't do this, and I bet many also don't know the proper technique. So therefore I also suggested to have an inflator just in case coz most tire puncture are slow puncture so you can use the inflator to help temporarily.