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Photography The Official Nikon Discussion Thread Ver.26, is this the end of DSLR era?

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post Nov 24 2024, 08:44 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 24 2024, 05:03 PM)
I see. But why this lens? I thought that would apply to any lens if the shots were not as intended.

With the wide aperture, big focal range, etc., I won't have to worry about these settings; I can focus on the composition.
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Prime lenses are usually sharper than zoom lenses so can crop tats why.

Option for cropping is always useful as you can get rid of unwanted objects from your composition or improve your composition.
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post Nov 25 2024, 01:27 PM

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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Nov 24 2024, 08:44 PM)
Prime lenses are usually sharper than zoom lenses so can crop tats why.

Option for cropping is always useful as you can get rid of unwanted objects from your composition or improve your composition.
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I don't need prime lens quality for my use. I can make countless improvements in PE. Ha.

Any new Z lens in the roadmap for 20-200 mm F/2-4? I have checked Nikon, Tamron, Sigma & Viltrox, semua tak ada.


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post Nov 25 2024, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 25 2024, 01:27 PM)
I don't need prime lens quality for my use. I can make countless improvements in PE. Ha.

Any new Z lens in the roadmap for 20-200 mm F/2-4? I have checked Nikon, Tamron, Sigma & Viltrox, semua tak ada.
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If its good enough for you then, zoom lenses is the best choice here.
Versatile and cost effective as you dun need extra lenses unlike primes.

20-200mm f2-4?
Not that i know of.
Besides i dun think they would want to make one as the size would be to big.
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post Nov 26 2024, 08:37 AM

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yes so i think the 35-150 suits his range
dont matter the IQ, weight, size, price and all
of course it's going to have it's downsize but the f2.8 kinda makes up tp it a bit

if you/him got the money and time to try it then why not
the secondhand market nowadays is blooming also
any lenses to let go usually doesnt take long to sell
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post Nov 26 2024, 10:12 AM

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Again, 24-120mm is a good lens option if you are into zoom lar. Get so heavy for what? lol.
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Nov 26 2024, 08:37 AM)
yes so i think the 35-150 suits his range
dont matter the IQ, weight, size, price and all
of course it's going to have it's downsize but the f2.8 kinda makes up tp it a bit    ***  rclxm9.gif  rclxm9.gif  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif  whistling.gif  whistling.gif 

if you/him got the money and time to try it then why not
the secondhand market nowadays is blooming also    *** any web site I can check?
any lenses to let go usually doesnt take long to sell
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post Nov 26 2024, 10:44 AM

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I mean if you are insistent about it go ahead lar haha. Don't let us stop you.

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post Nov 26 2024, 11:10 AM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 26 2024, 10:39 AM)

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secondhand website pricing, for camera pricing i uses Carousell
there is always scammers lurking online nowadays just beware of signs of scammers
facebook marketplace have so much scammers nowadays
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post Nov 26 2024, 11:17 AM

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QUOTE(Hexlord @ Nov 26 2024, 10:44 AM)
I mean if you are insistent about it go ahead lar haha. Don't let us stop you.
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Don't worry—only my small wallet can stop me. Ha. I'm just balancing the pros and cons before hitting the green light!
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Nov 26 2024, 11:10 AM)
secondhand website pricing, for camera pricing i uses Carousell
there is always scammers lurking online nowadays just beware of signs of scammers
facebook marketplace have so much scammers nowadays
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Thanks.

I used Carousell once or twice. And I don't like it.

FB? Believe it or not, I don't have a FB ac. I have hated it since it started. Cos of privacy, ethnic, etc, etc, etc,
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QUOTE(freddy manson @ Nov 26 2024, 11:10 AM)
secondhand website pricing, for camera pricing i uses Carousell
there is always scammers lurking online nowadays just beware of signs of scammers
facebook marketplace have so much scammers nowadays
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Funnily enough most of my gears were sold via FB marketplace.
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post Nov 26 2024, 05:36 PM

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I am a quantitative man, and like to quantify things to get a better perspective. Instead of me saying A is better than B, I want a quantitative/technical assessment. A problematic guy. Yes.

I am using MTF charts to compare the lenses. I have a 24-200 mm and want to compare it with 24-120 mm. 35-150 vs 150-500 mm which I already have.

There are a lot of MTF videos in YT. Check them out. The rule of thumb is an acceptable lens if its axis is 0.6 or higher when one moves away from the lens center. 1.0 = perfect.

Up to you to interpret and compare the charts.

One will warn me about 35-150 mm dropping to about 0.6 at full focal length. So why pay so much to get a lens that is not doing well? I think and hope that by reducing the aperture from F2.8 to say F8, the sharpness will be much better when using a high focal length.

I cannot believe my eyes when I see the 150-500 mm MTF charts, so nice!

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 26 2024, 05:36 PM)
I am a quantitative man, and like to quantify things to get a better perspective. Instead of me saying A is better than B, I want a quantitative/technical assessment. A problematic guy. Yes.

I am using MTF charts to compare the lenses. I have a 24-200 mm and want to compare it with 24-120 mm. 35-150 vs 150-500 mm which I already have.

There are a lot of MTF videos in YT. Check them out. The rule of thumb is an acceptable lens if its axis is 0.6 or higher when one moves away from the lens center. 1.0 = perfect.

Up to you to interpret and compare the charts.

One will warn me about 35-150 mm dropping to about 0.6 at full focal length. So why pay so much to get a lens that is not doing well? I think and hope that by reducing the aperture from F2.8 to say F8, the sharpness will be much better when using a high focal length.

I cannot believe my eyes when I see the 150-500 mm MTF charts, so nice!

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Dont forget that if you close down the aperture to same f4 with the 24-120 on the 35-150 you will get improved IQ on the edges right? Hehe.
Peak sharpness across the frame on all focal length with the 35-150 is at f4-f5.6

Depending on the scene you have the option to shoot wide open or close down on a fast lens.
With slower lenses the options would be limited.




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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 26 2024, 05:36 PM)
I am a quantitative man, and like to quantify things to get a better perspective. Instead of me saying A is better than B, I want a quantitative/technical assessment. A problematic guy. Yes.

I am using MTF charts to compare the lenses. I have a 24-200 mm and want to compare it with 24-120 mm. 35-150 vs 150-500 mm which I already have.

There are a lot of MTF videos in YT. Check them out. The rule of thumb is an acceptable lens if its axis is 0.6 or higher when one moves away from the lens center. 1.0 = perfect.

Up to you to interpret and compare the charts.

One will warn me about 35-150 mm dropping to about 0.6 at full focal length. So why pay so much to get a lens that is not doing well? I think and hope that by reducing the aperture from F2.8 to say F8, the sharpness will be much better when using a high focal length.

I cannot believe my eyes when I see the 150-500 mm MTF charts, so nice!

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Don't fully believe into MTF charts lol. My 58mm 1.4g also "fail" in terms of MTF but the rendering is fantastic.
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QUOTE(COOLPINK @ Nov 27 2024, 12:14 AM)
Dont forget that if you close down the aperture to same f4 with the 24-120 on the 35-150 you will get improved IQ on the edges right? Hehe.  thumbsup.gif  thumbsup.gif
Peak sharpness across the frame on all focal length with the 35-150 is at f4-f5.6

Depending on the scene you have the option to shoot wide open or close down on a fast lens.
With slower lenses the options would be limited.
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post Nov 27 2024, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(Hexlord @ Nov 27 2024, 10:50 AM)
Don't fully believe into MTF charts lol. My 58mm 1.4g also "fail" in terms of MTF but the rendering is fantastic.  ***  with no PE?
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Out of curiosity, I compared MTF of 24-120 with 35-150. 24-120 is slightly better off.

Considering 35-250 is a zoom lens, that is pretty good. If I equalize the F for the 2 lenses, their MTF will be about the same.



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post Nov 27 2024, 09:42 PM

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QUOTE(plumberly @ Nov 27 2024, 01:16 PM)
Out of curiosity, I compared MTF of 24-120 with 35-150. 24-120 is slightly better off.

Considering 35-250 is a zoom lens, that is pretty good. If I equalize the F for the 2 lenses, their MTF will be about the same.
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