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post Jan 7 2020, 10:25 AM

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The D750 successor is out ! Nikon D780 ~~
http://www.nikon.com.my/en_MY/product/digi...lr-cameras/d780
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post Jan 7 2020, 10:57 AM

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QUOTE(makoshark @ Jan 6 2020, 12:16 PM)
hi sifu, need some advice..from D800 to mirrorless system

Nikon Z6 vs Sony A7 III?

a bit interested in Sony A7 III due to size & weight..

my current gear :-
Nikon D800, Nikon 24-70mm F2.8, Nikon 70-200mm F2.8, Nikon 50mm F1.8G, Nikon SB900
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I happen to be in your shoe previously, and I decided on Nikon Z6. Mainly cause the A7III doesn't feel nice to hold, but the A7R4 is a different story now.

Transition from D800 to Z6 was pretty seamless. And all my lens works fine on the Z6 (1635 f/4, 50 1.8G, 35 1.4G, 85 1.4G, 70200 VR2)

I got the Z6 with kit lens f/4 which is very sharp and compact, later on I also replaced the 50 1.8G to the 1.8S, two totally different quality lens. The 50 1.8S is my sharpest prime which puts even my 85 1.4G to shame by miles.
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post Jan 7 2020, 11:44 AM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 7 2020, 10:57 AM)
I happen to be in your shoe previously, and I decided on Nikon Z6. Mainly cause the A7III doesn't feel nice to hold, but the A7R4 is a different story now.

Transition from D800 to Z6 was pretty seamless. And all my lens works fine on the Z6 (1635 f/4, 50 1.8G, 35 1.4G, 85 1.4G, 70200 VR2)

I got the Z6 with kit lens f/4 which is very sharp and compact, later on I also replaced the 50 1.8G to the 1.8S, two totally different quality lens. The 50 1.8S is my sharpest prime which puts even my 85 1.4G to shame by miles.
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tq thats inspiring me..give me more strenght to do this..

any big different from D800 to Z6? any improvement?

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post Jan 7 2020, 12:47 PM

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QUOTE(makoshark @ Jan 7 2020, 11:44 AM)
tq thats inspiring me..give me more strenght to do this..

any big different from D800 to Z6? any improvement?
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Improvements which I can think off at the moment,

1. IBIS
2. Access to Z-mount which has superior optics vs. the f-mount (50 1.8S is crazy sharp, I never liked 50mm cause the Nikons are crap, my 1.8G buy already never even use much but now the most common lens on my Z6 is the 50mm)
3. Smaller body, lighter!
4. 4K30p video
5. Eye-AF (yay, no need adjust the points manually most of the time, but I do miss the 3D Tracking from D800).
6. XQD is blazing fast when transferring to PC vs. the CF cards I have which are rated 90 MB/s only.
7. WYSWYG live view, well most of the it works la (of course OVF is better, but I'm somewhat used to the lag, so I usually pre click before the snapshot nowadays).
8. Well... another pros I think is the SnapBridge implementation, I shoot RAW but the app is smart enough to convert to jpeg before transfer to my phone. Fuji doesn't do this, need to manually convert on camera to jpeg then only transfer through the app.
9. Tilt screen and touch screen! Well sadly it doesn't have 180 view for selfie like the Z50

All in all I'm happy with Z6, sufficient for me now as I don't do much paid rigs already, though this year am going for Super GT... lets see how well the AF handles panning shots.
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post Jan 7 2020, 04:18 PM

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 7 2020, 12:47 PM)
Improvements which I can think off at the moment,

1. IBIS
2. Access to Z-mount which has superior optics vs. the f-mount (50 1.8S is crazy sharp, I never liked 50mm cause the Nikons are crap, my 1.8G buy already never even use much but now the most common lens on my Z6 is the 50mm)
3. Smaller body, lighter!
4. 4K30p video
5. Eye-AF (yay, no need adjust the points manually most of the time, but I do miss the 3D Tracking from D800).
6. XQD is blazing fast when transferring to PC vs. the CF cards I have which are rated 90 MB/s only.
7. WYSWYG live view, well most of the it works la (of course OVF is better, but I'm somewhat used to the lag, so I usually pre click before the snapshot nowadays).
8. Well... another pros I think is the SnapBridge implementation, I shoot RAW but the app is smart enough to convert to jpeg before transfer to my phone. Fuji doesn't do this, need to manually convert on camera to jpeg then only transfer through the app.
9. Tilt screen and touch screen! Well sadly it doesn't have 180 view for selfie like the Z50

All in all I'm happy with Z6, sufficient for me now as I don't do much paid rigs already, though this year am going for Super GT... lets see how well the AF handles panning shots.
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wow thats nice..thanks for your explanation..from what i read before af system in Z60 far more better than D800
now i must decide A7 III or Z60
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QUOTE(makoshark @ Jan 7 2020, 04:18 PM)
wow thats nice..thanks for your explanation..from what i read before af system in Z60 far more better than D800
now i must decide A7 III or Z60
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QUOTE(makoshark @ Jan 7 2020, 04:18 PM)
wow thats nice..thanks for your explanation..from what i read before af system in Z60 far more better than D800
now i must decide A7 III or Z60
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I definitely missed the 3D Tracking from D800, generally mirrorless AF is more accurate and doesn't need to fine tune the glass due to the face it has contrast + phase detect.

Oh, but the Sony's AF system is ahead of Nikon to be frank. Nikon's main advantage would be the Z-mount, it has the biggest diameter and shortest flange distance which eventually allows Nikon engineers to develop better lens easier. Sony's E-mount has small opening and not exactly the closest flange, so eventually they will hit some limit optically.
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 7 2020, 05:45 PM)
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 7 2020, 12:47 PM)
9. Tilt screen and touch screen! Well sadly it doesn't have 180 view for selfie like the Z50
That downward flip screen is horrible!

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 8 2020, 03:08 AM)
That downward flip screen is horrible!
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Not the best position I tend to agree, but at least it has one you can use with selfie handheld (not mounted on tripod).

I guess it can't flip to the top cause of the viewfinder and not sure why they do it like Canon's flip screen to the side.
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they figured out we like to record concert show :v
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QUOTE(Agito666 @ Jan 8 2020, 11:31 AM)
they figured out we like to record concert show :v
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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 8 2020, 10:58 AM)
Not the best position I tend to agree, but at least it has one you can use with selfie handheld (not mounted on tripod).
ONLY handheld.

No other way, unless you use the lob-sided tripod like how Nikon demo at the launch which is ridiculous.

If it flips outwards properly I buy already, so I can use with my F-mount glasses.

That screen is the ONE and only deal breaker for me, would've gotten my money really.

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QUOTE(celciuz @ Jan 7 2020, 07:32 PM)
I definitely missed the 3D Tracking from D800, generally mirrorless AF is more accurate and doesn't need to fine tune the glass due to the face it has contrast + phase detect.

Oh, but the Sony's AF system is ahead of Nikon to be frank. Nikon's main advantage would be the Z-mount, it has the biggest diameter and shortest flange distance which eventually allows Nikon engineers to develop better lens easier. Sony's E-mount has small opening and not exactly the closest flange, so eventually they will hit some limit optically.
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sony e mount is designed for APS-C.
but somehow they manage to use it for FF.

yeah the coverage with FE lens is just ngam ngam on the e-mount.
but for now sony FE lenses are still doing ok.

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QUOTE(goldfries @ Jan 8 2020, 03:08 AM)
That downward flip screen is horrible!
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i said the same thing back then before it was officially launched. laugh.gif
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My Nikon D90 shows an ERR message and the mirror is locked up. Anyone knows any good reliable reasonable place to repair in KL/PJ?
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QUOTE(runner999 @ Jan 8 2020, 09:36 PM)
My Nikon D90 shows an ERR message and the mirror is locked up. Anyone knows any good reliable reasonable place to repair in KL/PJ?
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My D750 did the same last time. Turn it off. Take the battery off. Then unmount and mount the lens. Then insert battery and turn it back on. It worked for me.
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QUOTE(runner999 @ Jan 8 2020, 09:36 PM)
My Nikon D90 shows an ERR message and the mirror is locked up. Anyone knows any good reliable reasonable place to repair in KL/PJ?
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happen to me before.just follow youtube tips and all go back normal. icon_rolleyes.gif
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any idea when the new d780 will arrive ? biggrin.gif

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QUOTE(KTCY @ Jan 20 2020, 10:37 AM)
any idea when the new d780 will arrive ? biggrin.gif
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YL camera already has pre-order. Expected 23 Jan.

https://ylcamera.com.my/index.php/product/14159

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