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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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danslater
post Dec 2 2016, 02:39 PM

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After following this forum for months and learning from the masters here, I'm happy to 'contribute back to society' by reporting in today's success of 4 digit top up for both ASM & ASW.

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post Dec 5 2016, 02:14 PM

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Got 3K today biggrin.gif
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post Dec 5 2016, 02:15 PM

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QUOTE(foofoosasa @ Dec 5 2016, 02:14 PM)
LOL why u guys take so seriously with the calender . ~.~

It just a calender right?
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For most people, calendar end up in drawer, not on top of table biggrin.gif
danslater
post Dec 6 2016, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(xyoshix @ Dec 6 2016, 02:15 PM)
Second try.
Asw2020=nil, asm+as1m=5 digits.
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Haha that explains why i got 1K for both biggrin.gif
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post Dec 6 2016, 02:18 PM

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QUOTE(Tollebunsmith @ Dec 6 2016, 11:49 AM)
ASM= RM100 / ASW2020=1K AS1M= few K,  been trying since 1st Dec, everyday
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Good try! Welcome
danslater
post Dec 28 2016, 04:39 PM

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2 days, 4 digit top up ASW
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post Jan 3 2017, 02:14 PM

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4 digit top ups for both ASW/M this moring

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post Jan 3 2017, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(tonytyk @ Jan 3 2017, 02:15 PM)
System working? Cimb mentioned system down
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Yea, morning okay, don't know now
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post Jan 3 2017, 02:21 PM

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QUOTE(forexengineer89 @ Jan 3 2017, 02:19 PM)
My company all withdraw pos malaysia. Alot but system good, but maybe down to avoid cash out too much in bank hahaha. Too many cash out we have to say system down. Perhaps? 🤔
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Why does your company have placement on ASB products and withdraw thru Pos Malaysia?

Please tell next time company going to withdraw nod.gif

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post Jan 3 2017, 02:34 PM

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QUOTE(forexengineer89 @ Jan 3 2017, 02:31 PM)
Individual bro, 3-4 people of the guy in company hehe

Not the company itself. 😬
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Ohh biggrin.gif okay, make me happy only bye.gif
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post Jan 3 2017, 03:36 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 3 2017, 03:17 PM)
Pos Malaysia got limit today not??
Friends of mine said cannot withdraw "big" hmm.gif
Each customers have limit..
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Sentiment turning bearish on FB ASX products?
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post Jan 3 2017, 03:37 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Jan 3 2017, 03:17 PM)
Pos Malaysia got limit today not??
Friends of mine said cannot withdraw "big" hmm.gif
Each customers have limit..
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Sentiment turning bearish on FB ASX products?
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post Jan 3 2017, 04:30 PM

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QUOTE(honkkydorry @ Jan 3 2017, 03:50 PM)
POS Malaysia told me before that withdrawal limit for ASx is RM6 perday.
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RM6K?
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post Jan 4 2017, 09:42 AM

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QUOTE(filage @ Jan 4 2017, 08:46 AM)
Might it be coz uncle and aunty all panic on the low FD rates, and gear up their energy to push uniits in.. ie. no reporting it here..
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I think it isn't the uncles or aunties but more savvy investors that can generate a return of >6 p/a in alternative investments that are shifting. That and those that need $ for new year expenditure such as children, education, holidays etc. smile.gif

For me I'm leaning contrarian, don't really follow the masses. I think the govt is very confident on winning the next election (this is evident in its latest economic decisions) So factoring that out, it is just a mater of portfolio balance, under the lower risk categorization, this is one of the better available product, until, it is not laugh.gif


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post Jan 5 2017, 04:59 PM

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QUOTE(hyelbaine @ Jan 5 2017, 09:31 AM)
Sorry ladies and gents, was away on an extremely long break and just caught up with everything (lots of posts to read). Anyways, here's my views based on the info that I have.

Are PNB/ASNB worried? No. The bumi's are always famous for failing to understand the concept of compounding interest and as such they'll be expecting the normal withdrawal in the first month of 2017 just like all the previous years. People cancelling their ASB loans? I'm of the opinion is better to weed out those who shouldn't be eligible in the first place and have the quality borrowers. 

Should investors be worried? Yes and no. Yes because ASB broke the 7% floor but that's more to do with AWO than anything else. Market participants and my insider contacts says that AWO is not a fan of using/dipping into reserves to prop-up returns unlike their neighbors Tabung Haji. What they make they'll pay out. Internally I believe the benchmark is set for 6% across all funds, I believe I read it in one of the analyst reports.

No because PNB will not allow its bread and butter FPs to drop below 6% (IMHO). EPF and LTH has only just recently breached the 6% and above returns for their funds as previously it was the domain of PNB's funds. The only mistake PNB did is not managing expectations for ASB returns. EPF played it smart by saying much earlier in mid-2016 that savers SHOULD NOT expect returns of 6% and more due to market conditions.

I know all the "press release" or "damage control" stuff flowing out of PNB/ASNB is cliche' but it's the truth. Minimal risk with returns above and beyond anything comparable. The spread between most FDs to FPs is still 2% at the very least while the spread between ASB returns and BLR/BFR is still almost 2% too so "apa lagi malaysians mahu?" to paraphrase a previous headline.

I mean come on guys, KLCI did go -ve in returns for the past 3 years and that's a fact. I'm in the camp that believes our "real" inflation rate is 4 to 5% rather than the quoted 1.8% CPI so the returns are still "competitive" (as per PNB's statements) as compared to the risk associated with FPs.

Again, the above are my views so you're most than welcome to agree to disagree  icon_rolleyes.gif
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nod.gif my sentiments exactly, its a decent product.
The ones withdrawing are most probably those than need funds for the new year, extremely bearish on PNB
or the extremely savvy investors that can do above 7% yoy on their own, I wouldn't be here if I could consistently tho

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post Jan 25 2017, 11:41 AM

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QUOTE(rivendell @ Jan 24 2017, 08:48 PM)
Hello. Have been a lurker for quite a while. As a newbie, I have to say I benefitted immensely from the discussions here. Thanks to TS and everyone who shared.

Successfully opened all three ASW2020, ASM, AS1M accounts today. An empty stomach and a full bladder almost made me quit after 5 hours. But worth it as I managed to throw in a high 4-digit.

First step of a long journey with ASNB.
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Welcome
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post Jan 25 2017, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(LNYC @ Jan 25 2017, 02:26 PM)
Sorry, don't even have time to go to bank to try.
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