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 Ultimate Discussion of ASNB (47457-V) Se7en, Wholly owned subsidary of PNB (38218-X)

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nexona88
post Nov 21 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(MGM @ Nov 21 2016, 11:12 AM)
Actually dropped to 261 & ASW paid 9.8%.
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But if u observed, over the years divvy rate dropping...
But on side note, based on news I saw today, almost 90% of ASx holders are bumiputras.. So I guess the rate won't go so low till reach FD rate.. If that happens why just dump in FD, and got pidm protection too devil.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 01:17 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 21 2016, 01:05 PM)
Yes, dropping gradually over the years, but looking at the rate it's been dropping at, it will be another few years before it reaches 5%, IF THE DROPPING TREND CONTINUES.

So, we continue to hold and gain knowledge and convert into other instruments while the dividend rate is still "high". By the time the rate reaches almost 5%, we would have gained enough knowledge abt investments elsewhere, and would have built our investments elsewhere to replace ASX FP.
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ASx is temporary place to park before move on to others risky asset & higher return blush.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(bbgoat @ Nov 21 2016, 02:41 PM)
I would rather say ASX FP, for me, is part of the portfolio in conjunction with other more volatile/risky asset. And of course, other more stable asset. biggrin.gif
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Ooh okay. Understand...
Its like backup if others investment get burned / losses..
Mix of risk & low risk in your portfolio..
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post Nov 21 2016, 03:01 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Nov 21 2016, 02:58 PM)
Someone should plot the line graph of annual dividend vs KLCI vs OPR rate (surrogate to FD rate)

Chances are you will see more correlation between dividends and OPR rate instead of KLCI. In the late 90s FD rate is as high as double digit

why? simple, people putting money in ASx (like people here) compares it against FD rate and not KLCI returns or other VP fund returns. and hence PNB will make sure it's say 2% above FD rate and they won't have to worry about bank run or massive withdrawals
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But if u see in annual report, the funds are benchmark against KLIBOR 3 months hmm.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 04:20 PM

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post Nov 21 2016, 04:24 PM

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QUOTE(wu ming @ Nov 21 2016, 04:15 PM)
Still hard to get units?
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this week should be easy as people might withdraw for year end holiday & also maybe for upcoming school expenses too blush.gif bruce.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 04:33 PM

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can top up today at CIMB?? friend of mine went lunch time, they said system down even for ASB hmm.gif

last last went to Maybank rclxms.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(dasecret @ Nov 21 2016, 04:39 PM)
Well, it's a really confused product. It's also stated in the product highlight sheet that
http://www.asnb.com.my/v3_/pdf/produk/ASB/2016_PHS-ASB.pdf

The risk of profile of the fund is actually similar to KLCI where 95% of its investments are in

I think the only comparable product would be Tabung Haji and EPF where the book value of your investment remain constant

Anyway this is a pointless discussion since we will never be able to see what is the fund's current market value and porfolio volatility
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true. we cannot see the true value of the portfolio.. and the best part, SC approved it (based on Master Prospectus & additional prospectus) devil.gif
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post Nov 21 2016, 10:48 PM

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QUOTE(langstrasse @ Nov 21 2016, 09:45 PM)
Actually what does "system down" really mean ? And why does it happen so often ?

Also, how is it that ASB system is separate from the other FP UTs? I'm wondering why it can be down for some UTs and not for others.
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well "system down" is when the tellers cannot connect to the ASNB system (log in failure).. it's could be various reason like upgrade or too many users / transaction..


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post Nov 22 2016, 10:49 AM

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QUOTE(sms2u @ Nov 22 2016, 10:24 AM)
it is Fixed price fund, RM1 for 1 unit
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Lolz he/she refer to dividend rate lor laugh.gif
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post Nov 22 2016, 12:25 PM

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QUOTE(filage @ Nov 22 2016, 12:21 PM)
No more top up stories now.. is it because everywhere got system down issue?
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That is one of the issues faced..

Another one, people are withdrawing for various reasons..
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post Nov 22 2016, 01:48 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Nov 22 2016, 01:11 PM)
no available units , therefore no top up story ....
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U try almost daily basis also didn't get any units huh?
Really weird as others don't try daily also can get some ikan bilis units...
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post Nov 22 2016, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Nov 22 2016, 01:50 PM)
not every day, just try when got time... no luck probably, envy those who got 5 digits especially in ASW
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Well wrong timing I guess..
Anyhow starting next week should be good time..
Schools holidays starting & also preparation for Christmas..
People would withdraw..
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post Nov 22 2016, 04:13 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 22 2016, 04:02 PM)
Tq,.. and congrats,... looks like there are still units to be fished,.... smile.gif
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well there's always units available..

it's depend on your timing & luck..

now could be even higher with upcoming school holidays & people "runway" with their money to overseas blush.gif
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QUOTE(Asmasw2020 @ Nov 22 2016, 04:39 PM)
My banker did try out for me. Im not sure how many times he tried to get the units i wanted.
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lucky for u have bankers help..

for most of us, it's try & error console.gif

for me. No more toping up ASx dry.gif
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post Nov 22 2016, 06:49 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 22 2016, 05:26 PM)
Straight sending to SG, bro ?? Wouldn't you want to put into ASX first while waiting for the RM to strengthen ?
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small amount only..

batch by batch..

unlike some of u guys out there..
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post Nov 22 2016, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(Hansel @ Nov 22 2016, 07:30 PM)
Okay,... no big no small,... what do you intend to do with the funds after converting and sending to SG ?
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Buy some reits there with help of family member blush.gif
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post Nov 23 2016, 12:54 PM

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QUOTE(Kamen Rider @ Nov 23 2016, 12:34 PM)
Today received the ASW2020 statement ( 2 months plus later after calendar closing on 30-Aug), why so late received.

And, also found that they have separated statement ASW20202 from ASM and AS1M statement,  as few months ago received ASM statement, inside the statement has several columns ASM, ASB2, ASG - Pendidikan, AG - Kesihatan, ASG - Persaraan.

Another question that AS1M already closing the calendar during 30-Sept, until today not yet received the statement.

Isn't that they combine into 1 account number, the statement should have covered all the funds e.g. ASW2020, ASM, AS1M, ASG etc .....
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Well its normal to get the statements late blush.gif

Asm that day got 4 including asg because all the financial year end at march...

Asw one in August.. Where got others fund ends on August..

As for as1m statement.. U shall get mid of December..

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post Nov 23 2016, 03:38 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Nov 23 2016, 03:32 PM)
congrats

too bad i no bullet now. 

but i very itchy want to withdraw FD to put in asw2020 , scared also no money for emergency...
account is like RM600 left for the rest of the month... hehe
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u need to keep at least 6month expenses as your emergency money..

basic rule biggrin.gif
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post Nov 23 2016, 03:43 PM

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QUOTE(Chrono-Trigger @ Nov 23 2016, 03:39 PM)
but isn't ASx also can serve as emergency money?

i mean they are liquid right?
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well ASx is 2 in 1 esp for ASB biggrin.gif

but I don't really keep as emergency money..



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