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post Oct 14 2016, 06:23 PM, updated 5y ago

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I noticed that the stainless steel tank always has a bigger capacity compared to the fiberglass or polytank. Which is better between the two? In terms of longevity and maintenance.

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 14 2016, 06:23 PM)
I noticed that the stainless steel tank always has a bigger capacity compared to the fiberglass or polytank. Which is better between the two? In terms of longevity and maintenance.
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No 1 use fiberglass anymore. Either SS or poly.

Poly come in many size and shape too.

My poly tank already 19yrs and still using. Cheaper a lot than SS.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 14 2016, 11:25 PM)
No 1 use fiberglass anymore. Either SS or poly.

Poly come in many size and shape too.

My poly tank already 19yrs and still using. Cheaper a lot than SS.
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totally agree, personally I dont the the benefit of going stainless steel...unless you have extra cash to throw
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post Oct 14 2016, 11:33 PM

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 14 2016, 06:23 PM)
I noticed that the stainless steel tank always has a bigger capacity compared to the fiberglass or polytank. Which is better between the two? In terms of longevity and maintenance.
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Actually is depend on which area you placing it, direct on sun SS will be much longer lasting... if located on a shelter-in-place polytank will be as good as stainless steel tank.
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QUOTE(sonic31s @ Oct 14 2016, 11:33 PM)
Actually is depend on which area you placing it, direct on sun SS will be much longer lasting... if located on a shelter-in-place polytank will be as good as stainless steel tank.
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My poly tank is direct sunlight ontop open roof.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 14 2016, 11:25 PM)
No 1 use fiberglass anymore. Either SS or poly.

Poly come in many size and shape too.

My poly tank already 19yrs and still using. Cheaper a lot than SS.
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Opps. My bad. I see few neighbours use stainless steel tanks for capacity above 1000l. For poly, usually 300l

QUOTE(kengyan @ Oct 14 2016, 11:53 PM)
In theory, SS tank can last forever, but they never tell you the important point to make it last forever.
You need to remove chlorine first before filling the tank. But raw water without chlorine are good to invite sickness and diseases.
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So poly as good as stainless steel?
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 15 2016, 12:01 AM)
Opps. My bad. I see few neighbours use stainless steel tanks for capacity above 1000l. For poly, usually 300l
Poly come in many shape and size.

You can have 1000L poly also.

I use 2 poly size 450L= 900l.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 15 2016, 12:07 AM)
Poly come in many shape and size.

You can have 1000L poly also.

I use 2 poly size 450L= 900l.
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Oct 15 2016, 10:34 AM)
Is better actually, as it does not react with chlorine.
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One of my neighbours made this system with the SS tank. Not sure if poly have or not the inlets for it.

The 1125l SS tank is curved at the top and bottom has 2 inlets at the top, and 3 inlets at the bottom.

The very bottom of the curve inlet is used to drain the air karat
The other two bottom inlets slightly higher used for water in and water out

He placed two floatation switches/balls in the tank. One halfway, one at the top.
Water comes in from below.
When the water pressure is low, the water fill the tank up to the first ball. When the ball closes, the water will travel up to the second inlet. When the water pressure is higher at night, the water travels up and fills the whole tank.

Can do this setup with poly tank?

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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 15 2016, 10:52 AM)
One of my neighbours made this system with the SS tank. Not sure if poly have or not the inlets for it.

The 1125l SS tank is curved at the top and bottom has 2 inlets at the top, and 3 inlets at the bottom.

The very bottom of the curve inlet is used to drain the air karat
The other two bottom inlets slightly higher used for water in and water out

He placed two floatation switches/balls in the tank. One halfway, one at the top.
Water comes in from below.
When the water pressure is low, the water fill the tank up to the first ball. When the ball closes, the water will travel up to the second inlet. When the water pressure is higher at night, the water travels up and fills the whole tank.

Can do this setup with poly tank?
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What is the purpose to have 2 ball valve ?

Lower pressure or higher pressure doesn't effect at all. Since the distance between 2 ball valve is very short.
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There is must be some reason that we don't no.

Very interesting.
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post Oct 15 2016, 08:42 PM

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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 14 2016, 11:36 PM)
My poly tank is direct sunlight ontop open roof.
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And as mention SS way longer lasting(around 60-100 years) than polytank(20-30 years) depend on Malaysia weather and material quality.

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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 15 2016, 11:00 AM)
What is the purpose to have 2 ball valve ?

Lower pressure or higher pressure doesn't effect at all. Since the distance between 2 ball valve is very short.
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QUOTE(kengyan @ Oct 15 2016, 04:54 PM)
Why want to make the filling up system complicated? What you need is 1 inlet, bottom for drain, slightly upper for normal usage and an outlet for overflow.
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Where I stay, water pressure is quite low. Got worse since more shops built on the main road.

If I open the main tap at the meter, put hose and raise hose above 5 foot, water does not flow. Sometimes only air in pipe and water does not go to tank. Need to bleed at main pipe remove air then water will go in. It used to be that the water pressure is high enough that it can fill the top tank at night. Now very rare.,some neighbours resort to opening the tap at 3 am just to send more water to tank
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 15 2016, 09:54 PM)
Where I stay, water pressure is quite low. Got worse since more shops built on the main road.

If I open the main tap at the meter, put hose and raise hose above 5 foot, water does not flow. Sometimes only air in pipe and water does not go to tank. Need to bleed at main pipe remove air then water will go in. It used to be that the water pressure is high enough that it can fill the top tank at night. Now very rare.,some neighbours resort to opening the tap at 3 am just to send more water to tank
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The 2 ball valve is probably just 2-3ft. Doesn't effect much at all.

To counter this problem, double up the water volume. At night let it slow fill up the tank. Morning you have more water to use.

You need to check yourself how much water to use perday. To get a proper tank.

There is another way with the pump on the ground to pump water to the tank. But indirectly from the main.
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QUOTE(sonic31s @ Oct 15 2016, 08:42 PM)
And as mention SS way longer lasting(around 60-100 years) than polytank(20-30 years) depend on Malaysia weather and material quality.
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I plan to change it another 5yrs. Doesn't require to last that long.

Another good about poly tank is, it is easy to clean. As it lower and wider and I can jump in to clean.

It is also very light compare to SS.

Nowaday SS material not sure is from China or local.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 15 2016, 11:18 PM)
The 2 ball valve is probably just 2-3ft. Doesn't effect much at all.

To counter this problem, double up the water volume. At night let it slow fill up the tank. Morning you have more water to use.

You need to check yourself how much water to use perday. To get a proper tank.

There is another way with the pump on the ground to pump water to the tank. But indirectly from the main.
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Sometimes a lot sometimes less. I take a bath with gayung and big kolah. So that kolah in my toilet as big as the 300L tank outside house. Shower tak syok mandi.

Thanks for the suggestion.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 15 2016, 11:22 PM)
I plan to change it another 5yrs. Doesn't require to last that long.

Another good about poly tank is, it is easy to clean. As it lower and wider and I can jump in to clean.

It is also very light compare to SS.

Nowaday SS material not sure is from China or local.
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Ok, true asked some dealers before they mentioned Taiwan/China and local made. Only difference are on quality material.
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QUOTE(sonic31s @ Oct 17 2016, 06:38 AM)
Ok, true asked some dealers before they mentioned Taiwan/China and local made. Only difference are on quality material.
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Than it won't be better than the poly tank.

With the price expensive than the poly alot.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 17 2016, 09:00 AM)
Than it won't be better than the poly tank.

With the price expensive than the poly alot.
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Yes the only option/different are SS longer lasting compared to polytank.
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Is stainless steel tank heat resistant?
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QUOTE(ikannnn @ Mar 1 2020, 09:56 PM)
Is stainless steel tank heat resistant?
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steel absorbs heat better than plastic. However plastic may degrade and leak harmful material into water, so dont use this water for consumption.
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I see. Thanks
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QUOTE(ozak @ Oct 15 2016, 12:07 AM)
Poly come in many shape and size.

You can have 1000L poly also.

I use 2 poly size 450L= 900l.
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your roof can sustain the weight of 2 tanks ?

how heavy is 450L of water filled up ?

thanks .
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 08:09 AM)
your roof can sustain the weight of 2 tanks ?

how heavy is 450L of water filled up ?

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It's a concrete slab. Of no problem. Been support for over 20yrs.

450kg.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2020, 09:08 AM)
It's a concrete slab. Of no problem. Been support for over 20yrs.

450kg.
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how to measure the concrete slab that can sustain the weight?

my concrete open air ..roof water fall down to the concrete ..after few years ..water leak inside my living room ...
saw small holes on the concrete ...that raining water fall on it..

thanks ...
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 10:19 AM)
how to measure the concrete slab that can sustain the weight?

my concrete open air ..roof water fall down to the concrete ..after few years ..water leak inside my living room ...
saw small holes on the concrete ...that raining water fall on it..

thanks ...
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Thickness 100mm - 240kg/m2 - 7.26kN/m2

My concrete is open air too. Should have a drainage for water flow out. Concrete treat with water sealant and paint.
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QUOTE(kennykck @ Mar 1 2020, 11:32 PM)
steel absorbs heat better than plastic. However plastic may degrade and leak harmful material into water, so dont use this water for consumption.
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Mar 2 2020, 04:47 AM)
I see. Thanks
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High-Density Polyethylene (HDPE) like those black poly pipe very commonly used now (and the tank) is safe for use. HDPE products are safe and are not known to transmit any chemicals into foods or drinks, making this plastic a low health risk variety, according to Chemical Safety Facts.

Stainless Steel also leach iron, chromium and nickel into water also but probably not considered as harmful also. smile.gif
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 10:19 AM)
how to measure the concrete slab that can sustain the weight?

my concrete open air ..roof water fall down to the concrete ..after few years ..water leak inside my living room ...
saw small holes on the concrete ...that raining water fall on it..

thanks ...
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This leak can be treated and repaired. The concrete load also depends on the iron bar used.
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2020, 10:29 AM)
Thickness 100mm - 240kg/m2 - 7.26kN/m2

My concrete is open air too. Should have a drainage for water flow out. Concrete treat with water sealant and paint.
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yes ..after long time the rain water drop into same place ..slowly concrete become holes and crack line ..thus water leak ..
some area the water will stuck there and wont flow to the drainage...

QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 2 2020, 10:40 AM)
This leak can be treated and repaired. The concrete load also depends on the iron bar used.
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how to know how big the iron bar that used ? already covered up by cement ...


i applied the method like the photo ...
the place without tiles plan to apply pentens T200...





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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 01:41 PM)
yes ..after long time the rain water drop into same place ..slowly concrete become holes and crack line ..thus water leak ..
some area the water will stuck there and wont flow to the drainage...
how to know how big the iron bar that used ? already covered up by cement ...
i applied the method like the photo ...
the place without tiles plan to apply pentens T200...
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You can google for video on how to repair the crack line. Plenty smile.gif

Of course you'll never know unless you get the architect drawing laugh.gif

Looks like they designed the tank to be put on concrete slab. I'm sure that part of concrete is the strongest point. Probably got column to support it.
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QUOTE(Zot @ Mar 2 2020, 02:15 PM)
You can google for video on how to repair the crack line. Plenty  smile.gif

Of course you'll never know unless you get the architect drawing  laugh.gif

Looks like they designed the tank to be put on concrete slab. I'm sure that part of concrete is the strongest point. Probably got column to support it.
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pentens T200 can help to covered the crack line ?

wonder the tank can last for how long ..
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 06:38 PM)
pentens T200 can help to covered the crack line ?

wonder the tank can last for how long ..
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Dunno anything much about Penten.

Looks like your tank is poly material. Excerpt from Wiki:

Although HDPE pipe is often estimated to last 50 years, they are in fact more likely to have life expectancies of 100 years. PIPA (Plastics Industry Pipe Association) and the Plastic Pipe Institute (PPI) have written technical white papers on HDPE design life.

Note HDPE (high-density polyethylene).
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 2 2020, 01:41 PM)
yes ..after long time the rain water drop into same place ..slowly concrete become holes and crack line ..thus water leak ..
Clean it up and apply waterproof sealant.

Than tile it up the whole area.

Cause the waterproof sealant cannot last for long. You need to apply it from time to time.

Tile it up will prevent the rain from chipping off the concrete.
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Water tank inside the rooftop for bathroom use only, use what type of water tank?

The stainless steel water tank is full stainless steel water type or just stainless steel paint on water tank?

And yes the paint peel off, so when ask the installer said stainless steel water tank is just stainless steel paint only, so got conned?
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 4 2020, 08:40 AM)
Clean it up and apply waterproof sealant.

Than tile it up the whole area.

Cause the waterproof sealant cannot last for long. You need to apply it from time to time.

Tile it up will prevent the rain from chipping off the concrete.
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ya...that's why tile for that particular area only ...

what method to apply can last longer to prevent the leak?

thanks ...
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 4 2020, 10:10 AM)
ya...that's why tile for that particular area only ...

what method to apply can last longer to prevent the leak?

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Nothing. Need apply every few yrs time.


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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 4 2020, 10:13 AM)
Nothing. Need apply every few yrs time.
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that's the only way ...
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QUOTE(sgpdsmss @ Mar 4 2020, 10:13 AM)
that's the only way ...
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Tile it up

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hi guys, i currently have a poly tank on my roof to supply water to the toilets, however with recent water disruption i would also like to add an additional SS tank at the point of entry to supply water to the kitchen as well. Should this be done? or should i just change to poly tank to a higher capacity SS tank and pull a pipe to supply to the kitchen?

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QUOTE(anhydrous @ Apr 17 2020, 11:23 PM)
hi guys, i currently have a poly tank on my roof to supply water to the toilets, however with recent water disruption i would also like to add an additional SS tank at the point of entry to supply water to the kitchen as well. Should this be done? or should i just change to poly tank to a higher capacity SS tank and pull a pipe to supply to the kitchen?

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Where I am in kota bharu, this is the norm. Meter>water tank>pump>filter>second water tank at rear>pump>roof water tank.

When I have first stayed here like 30 years ago, pipe meter straight to roof. No need pump. Then due to more economic activity, need to add rear tank and pump. Then when water become even low pressure put another tank at the front.

Front 250 galon
Rear 200
Roof 150
Original roof 100

My next door neighbour go even further, 500 g at meter followed by pump to 150 rear. Then 150 top. TBH, his setup is a bit between because got extra reserve. And when got disruption still maintain water. Even though the main underground pipe has to pass my house first.

You have to make it next to the meter, if you want the pressure to go into the tank. If possible build slightly underground then go ahead. If not need to choose between wide or tall tank depending on your house area. Tall tank, less space but more pressures needed. Wide tank more than spacey less pressure.
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QUOTE(anhydrous @ Apr 17 2020, 11:23 PM)
hi guys, i currently have a poly tank on my roof to supply water to the toilets, however with recent water disruption i would also like to add an additional SS tank at the point of entry to supply water to the kitchen as well. Should this be done? or should i just change to poly tank to a higher capacity SS tank and pull a pipe to supply to the kitchen?

thanks
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Can use poly tank for supply to kitchen. Don't need SS tank.

For piping, modify 2 point at the existing pipe to have auto back flow water when no supply coming.

It run auto have/without water.
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guys...any idea how to we clean stainless steel tank?

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QUOTE(sunami @ Oct 15 2021, 06:14 PM)
guys...any idea how to we clean stainless steel tank?
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If sediment, use water jet to suck out or remove from pipe below. Wall, no choice but to scrub when empty
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QUOTE(mystvearn @ Oct 15 2021, 11:12 PM)
If sediment, use water jet to suck out or remove from pipe below. Wall, no choice but to scrub when empty
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Thx...but how to open the top?
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QUOTE(sunami @ Oct 16 2021, 07:04 PM)
Thx...but how to open the top?
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I thought got cap at top? Maybe different version
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QUOTE(ozak @ Mar 2 2020, 10:29 AM)
Thickness 100mm - 240kg/m2 - 7.26kN/m2

My concrete is open air too. Should have a drainage for water flow out. Concrete treat with water sealant and paint.
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Can you share how to calculate the thickness of the concrete slab if my SS water tank is having a capacity of 1500 litres ?

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