Depends on your luck. If previous owner didn't have or put time aside to get the car fixed you'll have to deal with it.

OK
Can I hear your opinion on this

I was thinking of changing my Proton Saga Flx
to a used Proton Suprima

1)Bcoz I like the look and but I just scare the petrol consumption going to be bad.

2)Is the Proton Suprima powerful ?

3)Is the cars worth the money.

4) I thought of keeping the money and later few more years only change to Honda city or vios

If no change cars maybe I will just upgarde my Proton Saga
Like puts speaker and change rims .

Keep few more years, then get better car. Not worth now as Geely might have other plans for the company .

hi there, let me see if i can help you as i was in the same situation as yourself.

1) fuel consumption depends on your right foot, of course a vios would give you a better milage as it is a EEV vechicle.

2) yes and no, i have owned a performance engine back in the early days and it get tell you the suprima is not the kinda of car you want to go chasing 0 to 100 times.
however with that been said, it is designed to get you moving. the boost comes in and then it bleeds off as once you are moving at a good enough speed it tapers off.

3) to answer this is again a yes and no. all depends what you are looking for. for the price in the used car market, there are tons of options. for fancy bells and whistles Kia and hyundai have loads to offer, or you could even get an inspira for the price.

To answer the biggest question of them all, Y buy a suprima? for me, i am a driving enthusiast. no other car in that price range (used car) can give me a car that handles very well, and has just the right amount of pulling power around the twisties and it is a 1.6l so yearly renewals wouldnt be too high. The car needs to be babied, if you are not familiar with car care you are better off with a vios. which will give you, good fc, reliability, value and etc.

1) FC is bad. Probably the same or just slightly worse than your Saga though. Maybe even better since you don't need to use much throttle to get moving. It's better than my last Persona.
2) It's not a performance hatch back. It's faster than most typical cars on the road, but don't expect to go more than 210KM/H without modifying it slightly such as getting a remap (MBO by EA Autoworks). Acceleration is where this car shines at compared to most new cars at 100K and below. Speed wise it is pretty much in the same bracket (200KM/H or less) unmodified.
3) It highly depends on your needs. If you need a reliable, very comfortable, quiet, fuel efficient and etc car, this is not for you.

Reliability: Subjective. Some owners have it easy, some don't. You don't want to drag the service interval with this car. If you're buying used pay extra attention.
Comfort: Subjective also. Some say hard as rock, some say comfortable. Try it for yourself.

4) What are you looking for in a car? If you don't enjoy fast cornering don't bother with this car. It's only one of the few redeeming characteristics of the Suprima. The other two includes cabin space and above average power for the price for me.

Letting go of my Suprima at balance at bank price.

PM for more details.

The difference from stock quieter but the tread seems to wear off quite fast maybe due to soft rubber. The grip is excellence. Yea it's really expensive. Initially I want to get Primacy 3 ST but no stock. What I don't like is loose small gravel easily pickup by the tyre and can hear the gravel hitting the car body.

Anyone here solved the rear brake squeaking sound. I'm thinking of changing the brake pads to ceramic one. I have asked the SC to service the brakes so many times but no solution.
Most probably low quality brake pads since they are still thick and not even worn out yet. Any workshop near PJ to recommend. I went to one but no stock.

FYI below is a very informative video on brake squeaking issues:

Brake squeaking

This post has been edited by merinyu: Jan 21 2018, 02:31 PM

Original pads are probably no good. I suffer from high pitch brake noise, which luckily isn't too loud. COSE skimmed the pads after I complained, and they basically made it worse. The front pads now squeak from time to time too even when hot.

How's the brake squeaking happened? Mine squeak during light brake, and when disc are cold.

I have the same problem like yours. I'm thinking of changing the rear brake pads but not sure it'll solve the annoying sound. It happens when start using the brake. Can hear it so loud initially but after few hard braking the noise start to clear off. But can still hear it at certain light braking.

Yes exactly as mine. Especially during lighr braking, not always but usually during cold start, and it only happened during light brake. Seems like is a defection. You are sure it is from rear disc?

Yes mine confirmed rear brake only one side. Can hear clearly by winding rear window. Felt waste of money because when changing the brake pads normally change both sides two pads on the left and two pads on the right. My brake pads still very thick cause I'm driving short distance only daily.

I guess I will just leave it as it was. Maybe until I cannot tahan and I have budget. Proton's refinement ----> sad

Anyone recommend installing the oil catch tank on the suprima?

Do you know where can i get it and how much does it cost?

Will it void warranty?

And what are the benefits for the car?

This post has been edited by Nafirii: Feb 11 2018, 01:29 AM

EA Autoworks. Good workmanship.

OCT is recommended because it'll stop oil from accumulating on the intake (turbo onwards). It should not void the warranty but as usual anything that is not from the factory is a reason to void.

To the sifus and otais here,

I just took my wife to have a look at the Suprima S. We were initially going to buy a Jazz but she really likes the Suprima S so we are considering changing to this car. After the test drive, what was noticeable was the handling was good. Ride was a little firm. Interior space is better compared to a Jazz.

Can you please let me know what are the common problems for the Suprima? Also since you are all driving it, any regrets? Worth the money you paid for? We are likely going to buy the premium. Thanks.

The suprima model is probably gonna be EOL... maybe wait for a newer model or get the Jazz?

Not that i dont love it.. i love my suprima..

Jazz is much more refined; more quiet, smoother CVT, better NVH. It loses in the power and handling aspect. Space wise it's actually very spacious, and the seats support well. I find the Suprima much more comfortable however as the Jazz has a tendency to sway especially on bumpy roads. It's worth it if you prioritise power and good handling over other things. You'll have to spend money on improving the NVH by doing sound deadening for the engine and road noise, but it'll be worth it.

Maintenance wise it is a lot more pricey to maintain compared to a Jazz as it has a Turbo engine. Basically you'll need to pay extra attention to the engine oil you're using as cheap ones can cause sludge to build up which will eventually cause the turbo to spoil. Not servicing on-time or early can also cause this to happen. Tyres are also much more expensive as it is 17 inches, but you do get a lot more high performance tyre options for this size.

The biggest headache that some owners will have is CVT gearbox failure. Quite many have had their gearbox fail in their Suprima/Preve, but some of them are very aggressive with the throttle. If you're the sort that can feather the throttle when moving from a standstill, you're less likely to have the gearbox fail. This applies to any other CVT gearbox basically, but Proton's current CVT gearbox is especially sensitive as it is using a clutch instead of a torque converter.

Overall I don't regret buying this car because I know what I want in the cars I buy, and how to fix most of the problems (especially rattling issues). Go on more test drives with the Suprima, and try to test for as long as possible especially in stop-n-go traffic situation. The CVT gearbox characteristic can be a really big turn off for some people, especially those who expect very strong initial acceleration (I hate this kind of drivers cause as a passenger they'll make you vomit).

Points	Jazz	Suprima
Power	-	Faster. May be slightly slower at a standstill for a short while due to CVT initial engagement characteristics, but it'll push beyond 140KM/H easily especially after a remap (MBO by EA Autoworks). It basically is like a 2.4L NA Engine but with a much more consistent acceleration power at low speeds due to the CVT + Turbo combination. It'll max out around 200 to 220KM/H, whilst a 2.4L NA should bring you slightly higher than that w/o being super stressed out
Handling	Soft;floaty. I don't dare to push my sister's E Spec Jazz pass 80KMH, whilst I can go up to 130KMH in my Suprima S at the same corner	Stable; Really gives you a lot of confidence
NVH	Much better	Fairly noisy engine/gearbox. You're recommended to go for proper engine/gearbox noise sound deadening. Get it done at proper shops, not the ah beng ones
Space	About the same	-
Reliability	Generally more reliable	Depends on your luck/driving style. Some people don't have any major problems with their car, some do.
Fuel Consumption	Very economical (20KM/L can be easily achieved on a highway with me driving.. My sister can only get around 15KM/L	Very poor for city driving, good for highway driving (6L to 8L/100KM).

This post has been edited by TDUEnthusiast: Feb 25 2018, 07:14 PM

Thank you very much for the detailed reply. Turbo and CVT gearbox were the 2 things that worry me. Looks like it is going to be fully synthetic oils on early interval changes. I believe my wife would be quite gentle with the gearbox. EOL model but still rather low discount.