Hi guys, i would like to get some opinion in making the right choice and get some key differences between the two. I just got a new car and im doing some research on coating. As i can see now that you need to fork out extra to do coatings.

i also did some readings on wax. and found out it's also to protect your paint, uv and etc. So far from what is see is that coating lasts longer than wax and both offer protection on car paint. wax need to be done once 3-4 months. Coating would last longer depending on the type and the shop/brand.

A key situation of mine is my house has a porch and has no roof. so on the weekends, its gonna be exposed to sunlight. weekdays would be ok coz im parking my card in a carpark at the office. That is why im considering either coating or wax.

So, should i go for coating for protection or i can do it properly by waxing the car once 3-4months? Of course i read those coating sites claiming that wax is old and can even damage your paint blablabla..but i think this is all their marketing strategy. i have the budget, but i dont want to spend it wrongly. So any car care enthusiast here could help me out in giving some explanations or suggestions?

I appreciate it. Thanks

Depends on how long you plan to keep your car. I change my car every 5-6 years.

So never wax, never polish and never coat. Mostly park under the sun, 5-6 years the paint still looks nice.

coating la..alang2 nk buat..buat la yg mahal skit.tahan lama.
since budget is not a problem..juz do expensive one la

just wax ,repaint few years later if necessary
go for coating if ur wallet deep enough

My take on tis..

Most people do coating in the hopes that it helps maintain the paint of the car from the environment without [or at least with very little] maintenance on their part..
If you find washing/waxing [generally, taking care of your car] a chore, then do the coating - at the very least, it cannot be worse than a wax..

I just get quote by the famous ceramic coat.

3 layer ceramic coating on body. Include 3 step polish, 1 layer ceramic pro plastic/rubber for all exterior and interior, 1 layer for all the window, 1 layer for wheel and caliper. It is just a entry level. U can coat more layer as u wish. The entry price quoted RM2799 - 200 for oct only.

Not to say about the money. if I wax my car once a quarter RM200 x 4 times a year = RM800 x 4 years = RM3200
Why I have to pay for coating 2599 for 1 layer coating? I do need expert to correct me if i am wrong.

Thanks TS to open the thread~

This post has been edited by Imleonardlim: Oct 11 2016, 12:30 PM

I think,

Its all about the money.. plus the hype that the coating companies do [ads and tests and all that] ..

Main reason asking is dont want to fall for the hypes of the coating company. If the difference is just in tahan lama, but you are enthusiatic in maintaining car yourself then wax would be ok already. Just kena rajin..

Im not saying coating is bad and tipu. Juz dont want to go for wrong option. If not rajin to do maintenance on car everytime then i think coating is good.

So far i think it looks the same. It depends on money and time spent on car.

More money + malas maintain = coating
Less money + rajin maintain = wax

I get quoted from another story teller "nano flex technology"
3 layer polish, 3 layer waxing, 3 layer nano flex Coating, 3 layer coat on rubber plastic interior exterior, rim and lights. RM3099 for the whole car

3099 I can spray color for the whole car alrdy!

Better use the money to get a fresh new coat of paint.

Business hype like to use the word nano, ceramic, nasa technology to con ur subconscious mind to accept their product is good. In fact made in mainland.

I still believe my own hand + meguinar / turtle wax

Yay.. I can even wrap it to matt if I want. No right or wrong. I just spend wisely apart from my hard earn blood sweat money.

same here! this is what im thinking. and i used turtle wax also. i think those are marketing strategies. its not bad and it does work but sometimes i think it's over exaggerating.

with these amounts, you can get a new paint job? i didnt know this. a new point to add in making my decision.

The truth is all car paint are coated nowadays. Wax is just like putting make-up on face so that any dirt can be washed of easily.

Dust, bird drops, etc. that are left on car paint for long will damage coating or paint. So, regular weekly wash will be just fine for car. My car even after 7 years, the paint looks good even without polishing. If polish, it is still like new except for those small stone chips, of course.

Not really need to spend few k on coating la. For me i just buy ceramic ceracoat made from Switzerland(Can be purchased from Msia official distributor). Is a coating liquid just like coating that can last min 6 months. One bottle RM 100 can coat 4 times. 1 hour done, is easier than wax. Just coat it every 6 months. and i wash my car weekly using turtle wash n wax. the car still shines like just wax and water repellent after 3 months on my new car.

http://www.ceracoat.me/

..can take into consideration. where do you usually get yours?

unless your car is one with some fancy coat of paint or a really old classic with its original point intact... i personally feel that the coating is just a waste of time and money =3=......

i would rather repaint the car for the kind of money a coating costs.

use some good wax from meguiars or soft99 and you are good to go.

This post has been edited by lsm1991: Oct 11 2016, 01:50 PM

Original paint is always the best quality and color, if your car is branded luxury car then opt not to repaint.

Ferrari and Lambo often wrapped in full XPEL as they want to keep the original paint and rm3k repaint can never be the same for them.

Original paint is always baked in oven at high temp with car frame only while repaint is normally air-dry or bake at lower temp as the plastic parts installed cannot stand high heat and will melt.

Wax yourself. Cheap cheap. Do it every 3-4 months. If lazy, 6 months. It will looks good even after 10 years.
A bottle of wax cost o la RM 30, assume use 4 times. Very cheap compare to coating with 4 digits. U figure out.

Unless u want your car to be shining n looks really handsome. Sierra glow which is less than 1k sounds more reasonable.

I did nano glass coating at only Rm1380 for 3 layers and 3 years warranty at Percenta Glass Coating= www.facebook.com/percenta/ . The owner is very honest and doesn't make bullshit claims like other coating companies. Look for Jeremy and say the Mazda2 Kelvin recommend.

if u have the time, do urself, u get to choose from a wide variety of products, plus, u know what products are applied to ur car...if u don't have the time, let someone do for you and spend the money bah

https://www.facebook.com/Ceracoat-Malaysia-...470698/?fref=ts

thanks! i'll take it into consideration.

If u want to get wax, get soft99 fusso coat 12 months, 1 Can about rm110 only.
The result is superb, impressive on my saga.

no difference than my civic did ceramic coating.

thanks for the suggestion. does it really last 12months? i use turtle wax super hard shell paste. it also says that it lasts 12months. only time can tell..

write there oni lar. actual result may vary.
so far my saga waxed for 2 -3 months ok. still effective.
make u wanna drive whenever there is rain

hahaha. that's what i thought.. but 3-4 months wax is still acceptable.

last time for my hatchback car, kena cat at work. so the cat company willing to pay to polish my car. sent to a shop in seremban, the shop offered a 5 layer polish with nano coating for rm250. this shop mb relatives also send for polishing. still OK until now. wash the car once in a while. masih kilat!

For me i just use Optimum Opti-Seal, 1 bottle can coat at least 100 cars, each time coat can last me half a year. 100x easier to apply then wax

I use meguiars ultimate paste wax. Wax it every month!

Spot on! I used to do coating and found its a waste of money! I rather wax everey two months and polish twice a year! Get a good detailer and your car is as good as show room condition! One need to maintain the coat , it doesnt mean apply once and last for all! Of course, stone chips are the thing that you cant pevent!

What brand that cost rm 30? Pasar malam sell one ah?

Plenty of choice in Aeon.. Eg, kit, turtle wax, Waxco, etc

I was in the same dilemma but got sweet talked into a deal last week.

Bought one of those polish wax Groupon for a local shop in pj that has several branches across KV. Got into the shop he tried to upsell me 1599 for 4 times 4 layers polish wax and 14 times nano coating wax applicable for 4 cars with 20 free car wash.

Wasn't convinced and I think he was desperate for sales. What tipped me over the edge was when he said he'll throw in a free nano glass coating worth 1500rm.

Deal was too sweet tak boleh tahan sign. If u want the package pm me I'll ask the guy see if he can repeat. Funny thing is after the coating he say cannot polish the car. I'm like errrrr I got 4x how?? Not complaining though.

Just go to check out yourself. U have plenty of choices. Kit, pg, turtle, etc etc. Even if it's RM 50, still much cheaper than coating.

The problem with your financial comparison is that the coating is not going to last 4 years despite what the shop claims. As for waxing buy some wax and DIY. Nobody pays RM200 for waxing.

There are plenty of good wax which cost RM30. Look in Ace hardware.

If you are looking for protection from coating look elsewhere. Coating is just for aesthetic purpose to make your car look glossy and feel smooth. It doesn't protect your paintwork from bird poo, tree sap, acid rain, UV fading, watermark, scratches or dings. You have to look after the coating better than the original paint to maintain its appearance including washing in a special way in some cases.

Just save your money and do DIY wax your car every few months.

how do u define no people pay for RM200 for waxing?
perhaps u tell me how much is ur neighbor car wash center price list as below
"wash, vacuum, mist, polished 3 layer, wax 3 layer, glass coating as well"

how often should we wax our car?
i'll doing it every month once ,is it too much?

I read a lot on auto forums and bloggers, they say once around 3 to 4 months. They also mention that doing it too often will hurt the paint. same goes for polish. that's what i find a lot people saying.

where can i get it?

hmmmm ,maybe i should change to 2-3months once

not worth to do coating. may look nice but still needs maintenance. it's all syiok sendiri. just do waxing every half year

Wax adds / Protects
Polish removes / make it clean ; like new..
They are actually 2 different tings..

Why want me to tell you? Find out yourself.

If you want to pay RM200 for plain waxing go ahead. It's your money.

http://www.detailien.com/?m=1

im aware of the difference. what i meant is that both should not be done on a short time interval from what i read. for example i read that wax 3- 4months, polish around twice a year or when you see the need.

Wax that could last 3-4 months, it wont be a cheap product.

When to wax? When you feel and see the beading or sheeting effect become weak, then it's time to do a proper wash, then topup the wax.

When to polish? Well, it's up to the paint surface condition and owner's decision. Some throughout the ownership of the vehicle, not polish once also.. Some might just send to polish once or twice in a year.

Yes! I did that too! I invested in meguaire products and ask the expert to do it! Mine is black thus need lots of TLC!

I made the right choice not to coat my car when I first bought it.
To me coating is really overpriced. Yes it's more work to apply a coating. But cmon, thousands for a coating?

I have friends who done coating (more than 2k per coating). Nothing to shout about. Easier to wash the car but still need to wash properly and wipe dry.

If it's a black car, u will see fine hair scratches even on coating. Can't escape.

Stones will still damage ur paint too.

Oh, if u want to repaint ur car, u need to remove your coating.

If u r like me, I drive to KL and jb every week, pointless to get coating as each year u get significant stone chips on your front.

I know nothing about coating and wax

but I think wax will be better

you can wax often but you cannot polish often. Polish removes a little bit of clearcoat each time. If you polish every month then maybe by the end of 5 years only 20% clear coat left.

coating is depend on workmanship n product. My fren spend rm1k++ do coating on his white SUV but cannot last 1 yr and hard/cannot washout the stained by normal wash...

Another fren do his white civic at ceramic pro at rm2.7K. Stained could be just easily wipeoff... side doors knock by others can easily removed the white mark.

Wax need to often topup and not lasting due to our weather. I dun think wax can get the glossy effect n hardness that coating hv.

Coating hv the evryday brandnew/shine new effect that last 2yr onward.
To me coating is very pricy. the price can respray the whole car. But respray cant get the original paint n clear coat quality.

Dilemma with this as well.

I don't have time to do waxing or washing myself. I only send for car wash once every 2 weeks or if it gets too dirty.

Quoted RM2700 (MPV pricing) for a coating, every 6 month the will maintain it, free coat if repaint due to accident etc. Basically, they will continuously keep it shiny for 3 years (warranty). Like a surface care-package.

Included all the additional extra for internal/external plastic protective filming etc. Like headlights etc.


My porch can't cover the vehicle fully. So rain and shine sure kena.

Just save your money and wash once a week. Coating doesn't mean you don't have to wash your car. In fact you have to take more effort to maintain the coating by washing in a special way. Neither does coating protect the paint from rain and sun. As for the headlight film, don't do it. Next time when you remove the film it is impossible to remove the glue.

If wax,I recommend applying sealant for the best shine and protection.

If you send your car out for car wash, I would say, to save to coating, as the car wash would inadvertently scratch and remove your coatings off. It could be the constantly used and rarely washed clothes used to go through your car, or even the chemical mixture they used to quickly remove dirt from your car.

Coatings are more for people whom have the time and place for their vehicle, proper are away from sun and rain, personal time to wash own car to ensure clothes and chemical used are not detrimental to the coating and car paint.

One of the main reason for coating is to protect the paint, full stop. It acts as a sacrificial layer above the oem clearcoat. Stone chips, it chips away the coating, bigger stone would definitely dent the car and that is another issue altogether (it does not make it bullet proof 😂). Yes, good coatings could be strong with 9H ratings but end of the day, it still is a sacrificial layer from sun and rain. That is the reason for the maintenance, to add back the layers.

Then you would ask, y do coatings.... I could just repaint same price or cheaper, end of story. Depends, if you are not fussy on your paint, you would go to any under tree shop and they spray one layer of paint on your silver colour d segment sedan, after let it dry under the sun for 3 hours, then it is definitely cheaper. But the proper way of respraying a car is to first remove the original paint by compounding, takes few days, need to remove pieces to individually remove as well( front and rear bumpers, fenders). The painting also need to cover nooks and cranny of your car, not just outside ( engine bay certain parts, tight spaces between door. Then you actually need to do the base layer (car in white), followed by few layers of your correct car colour based on oem recommendation. In between each layer, car need to be dried, if drying outside dust might settle on the car and your paint will be marred with small dots. Then final layer is a clear coat. If the drying is not enough, you will encounter dripping effect on your paint. All in all, takes few days or weeks, if the shop have more people doing just your car, you need to take on the cost of their workmanship. You get what you pay.

So in that perspective, coating is much cheaper. Oh yaaa, we have not talk about the paint needed. Some cars have super expensive paint. No I’m not talking about the silver paint of an mpv, imagine Benz diamond silver metallic, bmw Brazil brown metallic nd not to mention other brands like Ferrari or Porsche.

I once did a front bumper for a bmw 3 series, just respray according to oem standard at approved paint work shop, rm1,700 for grey metallic. Even kelisa special edition orange oem paint to do proper for front, fender, and hood is rm700.

Just a comparison.

For headlight film, use the corrent ppf films and proper workmanship and you won’t have this issue of glue sticking. DIY at home with half of the tools and skills, definitely will have glue stick on it. In fact nowadays it is recommended to use headlight film due to the cost of your headlight. Imagine your LED headlight, with DRL and sensors to detect and adjust light beam when you turn and prevent glare to oncoming cars etc. Those come in a set and you generally can’t just change the light bulb or just the glass. FYI, Honda Civic FC LED headlight cost rm7k per pair, the led is imbedded into the headlight and you cannot just change one led.

To be fair to DIY'ers and grooming shops... I think many of us forgot to talk about the require task prior to coating. For a proper coating and waxing you will need to thoroughly wash the car, clay the car, paint compound (if the paint is really bad), polish, IPA wipe down to remove polishing oils and residue and then only apply coating or waxing. All these task is very laborious and take quiet a long time to complete hence it command higher price as well.

Coating and Waxing can DIY if you are up to it, if you are wiling to to spend time pampering your ride and money to purchase the required products. More info on products and technics can be found in the detailing section Car Care & Detailing

If we visit grooming centers we are essentially paying for the car shampoo, clay bar, compounding product, polishes, buffing machines such as rotary or DA polisher, polishing pads, IPA solution, coating or waxing product, water, electricity, space rental, workmanship, warranty and profits... I am not saying the prices quoted for coating or waxing by grooming center is justifiable (some are sky high and some are cheap until you feel sceptical about the whole thing) just want bring this up so that we are aware of the overall process and for forummers going for a coat or wax make sure they are doing all these and not to be short-changed...

This post has been edited by vyruzj: Oct 9 2018, 09:12 PM

To add on, you can't respray back the original paint from Car manufacturers from outside no matter how much you pay for. One is hand spray paint one is machine. Any skillful second hand car trader wikk easily notice touch up paint vs non

ckd cars....repaint outside shop turns out the paintjob is better compared to the oem

Soft 99 fusso wax is rm39.88 9n Lazada. How to tell real or fake wax?

IMO wax is better than coating. Yes, coating can last a few years, still can't escape the scratch from small rock etc2. Make even worst you can't re-work the scratch unless u remove the coating. But if u are lazy type of person, wouldn't mind for small2 scracth, have big budget and planning to change car for every 4-5 years, coating should do the job.

For me waxing is a cheaper alternative and more practical. However it durability also depending on ur usage, once a year of waxing should do a job. Plus if got scratch here and there, u can always applied the wax on ur own in that area and repair the scratch.

i would recommend coating!
less maintenance and upkeep.
more time to be thinking of doing more productive tasks.