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 100,000 electric vehicle on our road by 2030?, Lofty goal or achievable?

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eMKs
post Oct 10 2016, 04:56 PM

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How much it will cost per charging & how long it can charge?

I think they should thinking to consolidate with hydrogen fuel station as well. Hydrogen fuel vehicle is better suit with current petroleum refueling. Just take few minutes to fill up.

As for EV, you have to change the it is now.
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post Oct 12 2016, 12:21 PM

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QUOTE(PappyBoyington @ Oct 12 2016, 11:39 AM)
The fast 22kW chargers at the 66 locations along the highway is able to add around 120km of distance per hour of charging, so if the next charging station is around 60km away (not unrealistic given that there are 66) then you spend 30mins at the charger, just nice to stretch your legs, toilet break, maybe even a cup of coffee.

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120km is estimation for smooth traffic right? What if in traffic jam & hilly area like in northern part of PLUS highway.
Let say you can get 120km, take about 1 hour to drive. So, every 1 hour drive you need to stop & charge for 1 hour. Not to mention in festive season where r&r are so packed. Need to q some more to get your turn.

QUOTE(PappyBoyington @ Oct 12 2016, 11:56 AM)
TNB tariffs are driven by fuel (gas, coal in Peninsular) prices la bro.

Difference is that to "top up" a 30kWh Nissan Leaf costs around RM0.40 x 30 = RM12 which can take you around 300km.

PS - the target will also include Plug-In Hybrids (ones that have petrol or diesel engines to supplement the battery) and also electric bicycles and motorcycles.
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This calculation based on what? Rate at charging station? If it's based on TNB tariff, it's not accurate. TNB charge are 51.60 sen & 54.60 sen for 301 - 600 kWh & 601 - 900 kWh. Normal user will used up first 300 kWh per month easily.
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post Oct 12 2016, 02:53 PM

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QUOTE(pai3355 @ Oct 12 2016, 02:13 PM)
Maybe there will be a power bank (let say as big as our battery car) for emergency. Enough to power up our car for 50km driving smile.gif
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Highest single battery capacity maybe 100Ah, or 1.2 kWh. If 30 kWh can go 150km, 1.2 kWh? You do the math. Furthermore, EV normally use battery in series to power up high voltage motor. It will make 12V battery pretty much useless.
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post Oct 12 2016, 04:44 PM

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QUOTE(PappyBoyington @ Oct 12 2016, 02:56 PM)
EV power consumption does not suffer as much as ICE does in traffic jams (a bit, yes, since there's the stop and go part but absent is the engine idling when the car is not moving)

Hills are no problem as the regenerative braking recoups most of the energy spent climbing up the hill. That's also why brake pads lasts a long, long time on EVs.

Won't dispute your worse-case scenario on festive season driving. These are the compromises that EV owners must be prepared to face.

Re tariff, it also depends on your own EV individual usage patterns as well as home usage patterns. So I used the average tariff to simplify the calculation. If you take the max tariff of 54.60 sen x 30kwh that's around RM16.38 for 300km = RM5.46 / 100km = 3.2 liters of RON95 for 100 km

Up to you to take it up or not.. have you tried driving one?
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You didn't take into account air cond power requirement. The more you spend on the road, the more air cond power is needed. Same like auto start/stop engine has no advantage during hot days. At night maybe, but you still have to power up the headlights.

I would like to try driving one if I've given the chance.

 

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