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jayko
post Oct 27 2016, 11:30 AM

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voLTE is a big messy stuff, only iphone5 and onward can use and also both calling and receiving end has to be iphone, what a joke man!
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post Oct 27 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Oct 27 2016, 11:47 AM)
Iphone 6 ma. 5 n 5s tarak dapat.
SE im not sure.
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i saw the news, both 5s onward and SE do support lar. but i m not apple fanboy. lol, so it doesnt concern me.
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post Oct 27 2016, 05:09 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 03:46 PM)
Dun simply put ur statement if you don't know.
U can use volte call to anyone and anyone can call u with/without volte.

The only thing only for volte to volte is better setup time and higher HD voice compared to normal 3G/2G calls.
SE support. Pls go check digi volte faq
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Not i say one hor, here is the proof and link

At the moment, Digi VoLTE is only available on iPhones running iOS 10.1:

iPhone 7 / 7 Plus
iPhone 6s / 6s Plus
iPhone 6 / 6 Plus
iPhone SE

http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2016/10/digi-volte-iphones/ see? I know VoLTE suppose to work with handset that have VoLTE capability lar, but some how digi only iphone to iphone now wor.
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post Oct 27 2016, 05:11 PM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Oct 27 2016, 05:09 PM)
http://new.digi.com.my/services/volte
iPhone 7 / 7 Plus
iPhone 6S / 6S Plus
iPhone 6 / 6 Plus
iPhone SE

tarak. only 6 n aboveeeeeeeeeeee
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ok, my bad, just notice no 5, but i know ovearseas 5 can support VoLTE.
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post Oct 27 2016, 05:15 PM

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QUOTE(UntilUComeBack @ Oct 27 2016, 05:11 PM)
nevermind. 4g or 3g janji boleh call.
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3g sure can call, 4G can't call, when you make call or receive call 4G will fallback to 3G or 2G, that is why they implement 4G, which you dont have to fallback to 3G or 2G when making or receiving call.
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post Oct 27 2016, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(jasontanky @ Oct 27 2016, 05:18 PM)
All app-only subscribe plan back to normal as well as postpaid online payment
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thanks, saw it now.
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post Oct 27 2016, 06:46 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 06:24 PM)
To enjoy these new features, which come at no additional cost, both devices making and receiving the call must be VoLTE-capable with the feature switched on and with both customers located within Digi’s 4G LTE coverage area.
This one? Perhaps the feature is VoLTE quality.
How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
Another fact, if YES 4G VoLTE call maxis user now? what should they do? drop to 3G(they only have volte)? call drop?

If you are saying to have volte quality then you are right.

A call B:
A (iphone VoLTE) to B (3310) = the call at A will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (3310) to B (iphone VoLTE) = the call at B will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (iphone VoLTE to B (iphone VoLTE) = both side will at VoLTE, remain at 4G .. if network stable, it only requires 1s to reach B, same as wifi calling to wifi calling
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as the news link stated, NOW is strictly Digi to Digi where both end are iPhone VoLTE capable phones. then and only then the VoLTE will go through.

the VoLTE features has to be supported at the LTE's EPC, the equipment is called IMS, within digi own LTE network, which is ZTE, i believe the IMS is also belong to ZTE, i m not sure on this. if it is ZTE, ZTE only need to maintain their own IMS and solve the VoLTE problem if any issue arises. but when you are talking about Inter-Telco VoLTE call, the IMS of telco A will have to route to IMS of telco B to make VoLTE possible, I am not if there has been live or not, I didnt follow this news closely though.

How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
--------a phone with VoLTE capablity will have a tag of this features when making the call setup, when the EPC receive this VoLTE tag, it will check if the destination caller is also on the LTE network and support VoLTE, if it has, then the call will patch through on 4G network, else it would be fallback to 3G or 2G depending on the signal conditions.

volte quality to me is VoLTE features, but the news link claimed it is HD-Voice, which 3G already can support HD voice when circuit switch can handled AMR-WB codec of 12.65Kbps.

as for VoLTE is double the bitrate, or 23.85kbps to be more precise. Calls will sound even clearer, and that is the highest possible bitrate defined in 3GPP standard for VoLTE. which i believe is also the same bitrate for VoWIFI



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post Oct 28 2016, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Oct 27 2016, 08:46 PM)
My iphone 6s plus still remain on 4G signal when receiving call from my friends using android phone from Maxis and Celcom  blink.gif  blink.gif  biggrin.gif
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You are on digi? That means maxis and celcom already a step ahead of digi on volte game.
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post Oct 28 2016, 01:16 PM

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 09:15 PM)
But currently the call will be like this.
For example DiGi user with volte call to YES 4G VoLTE

DiGi user --> DiGi IMS -- > DiGi 2G/3G network ---> YES 4G Gateway -- > YES 4G IMS --- YES 4G user
and both side will using VoLTE 100000000% for sure.

DiGi IMS network connects to other IMS network will be real after this, for better call setup advantages and saving TDM costs.
FYI, government previously still forcing telcos to use TDM for interconnection between telcos.
FYI, ZTE is ZTE. Many issues comes due to legacy 2G/3G/CSFB network. I cannot tell more at here smile.gif
A big wrong.

EPC/PGW detect this when user register VoLTE via different APN (which is "ims" for U Mobile, DiGi and Yes 4G, im not sure whether this is standard APN  for all VoLTE in the world or no). Then phone will perform SIP registration to IMS network.
Calling will cause phone trigger SIP calling to ANY numbers, as long as the number exist (999 and 112 are still pending MCMC standard).
VoLTE and Wifi calling all using SIP call. A SIP call wont check where is the destination or even the destination is fix line, or mobile or VoLTE or no. The call just go through.
If i am U Mobile and U are digi, and u can know my subscriber using VoLTE or no then GG ad lo me  biggrin.gif
but end to end HD voice capability can work if both parties agree on this  smile.gif
For example, DiGi VoLTE users ---> DiGi IMS ---> DiGi 23G ---> UM 3G ---> UM users (who phone support HD voice)
But ... slow slow wait.... government very slow at this.

talking about SIP call,
Did u see any skype call cant reach fix line/mobile phones?
Did u see any voip calls cant reach fix line/mobile phones due to they are SIP calling?
All legacy networks are accepting SIP INVITE and processing accordingly.
Those calls between MSCs and between OLOs are now using SIP protocol too(this one seldom, will implement soon).

And im holding iphone 6. I can call anyone using VoLTE (my signal wont drop to 3G).
And also Im part of the VoLTE testing. Im sure how DiGi core network/IMS network works.
Im not sure bout this... but normal call is 64kbps dedicated bandwidth... i think HD voice is more to the kHz the audio is captured? even though 3G HD voice also got 6.xx kbps

Currently digi maxis umobile celcom using 12.65kbps for HD voice codec bit.... and UM normal call using 12.2kbps... tat is y UM calls will be only slightly difference between HD call and normal call in its 3G network smile.gif

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thanks for your explanation on the IMS part, I wasn't really look into the SIP part and the interconnect between telcos in term of VoLTE, i need to find out more on this topic then reply.
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post Oct 28 2016, 01:18 PM

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QUOTE(jack2001 @ Oct 28 2016, 12:26 PM)
I think you can.
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NO, VoLTE ride on LTE a.k.a Packet switch data network.
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post Oct 28 2016, 01:25 PM

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QUOTE(Kiding @ Oct 27 2016, 08:46 PM)
My iphone 6s plus still remain on 4G signal when receiving call from my friends using android phone from Maxis and Celcom  blink.gif  blink.gif  biggrin.gif
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the last i checked, only Digi has VoLTE operational, I didn't see any Maxis or Celcom implemented VoLTE, but I do saw YES claimed they have VoLTE, maybe your friend is field testing Maxis and Celcom? so far I think VoLTE Interconnect between telcos is not possible.
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post Oct 28 2016, 01:53 PM

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QUOTE(tympg @ Oct 28 2016, 01:37 PM)
It  can be VoLTE at Digi's end, but not necessarily at the other end.  So a caller on Digi can still make the call over 4G+ regardless of what technology the other end is using, even landlines.
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i get what you mean, digi end as long as enable the VoLTE, if the receiver is not on VoLTE, it would be normal voice call e.g 3G or 2G or normal telephone.
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post Oct 28 2016, 09:56 PM

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QUOTE(chuyeu @ Oct 28 2016, 04:39 PM)
First, VoLTE is a protocol using LTE network to make calls, so no matter you call to B party with or without VoLTE, your own side wouldn't drop to 3G aka CS Fallback. I have question for you, why you can make calls from 3G/2G to fixed line?

Currently, Malaysia only 2 operators launch VoLTE, and you already know that.
Secondly, why VoLTE interconnect not possible? Then how you make calls from mobile network to fixed line network? Why previously can achieve on 3G to fixed line and why now not possible for VoLTE interconnect?
Lastly, I used DiGi VoLTE since 25th Oct night until now, no matter who call me or I make call to anyone, I ALWAYS see the 4G sign still there.
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I was having the impression that when Digi said it is only iPhone to iPhone that support VoLTE at the moments, i translate it is purely VoLTE to VoLTE, but apparently it is not the case. it is VoLTE to Non-VoLTE as well. so that is the answer for your first question.

when I mean VoLTE interconnect is not possible is actually a interoperability between different vendors, such as interoperability between zte, ericsson, nokia, huawei and such. that is what I mean interconnect.




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