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post Oct 27 2016, 05:22 PM

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QUOTE(zwanvedder @ Oct 26 2016, 09:01 AM)
jump to DIGI after 8 years with maxis....quite satisfied so far with the 4G coverage and more data 110 FOR 40GB, cannot brain this maxis just gave me 5GB for RM98
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Yeah, same boat bro. I just port out from Maxis 98 to Digi 80 for 10+10GB, hope Digi coverage wont disappoint me biggrin.gif

P/S: got a call from maxis asking whether to top up another 2gb for RM12.. shakehead.gif shakehead.gif
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QUOTE(jasontanky @ Oct 27 2016, 05:18 PM)
All app-only subscribe plan back to normal as well as postpaid online payment
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janji boleh call and can hear the other side ok lah...hehehe
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QUOTE(jayko @ Oct 27 2016, 05:09 PM)
Not i say one hor, here is the proof and link

At the moment, Digi VoLTE is only available on iPhones running iOS 10.1:

    iPhone 7 / 7 Plus
    iPhone 6s / 6s Plus
    iPhone 6 / 6 Plus
    iPhone SE

http://www.malaysianwireless.com/2016/10/digi-volte-iphones/ see? I know VoLTE suppose to work with handset that have VoLTE capability lar, but some how digi only iphone to iphone now wor.
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To enjoy these new features, which come at no additional cost, both devices making and receiving the call must be VoLTE-capable with the feature switched on and with both customers located within Digi’s 4G LTE coverage area.
This one? Perhaps the feature is VoLTE quality.
How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
Another fact, if YES 4G VoLTE call maxis user now? what should they do? drop to 3G(they only have volte)? call drop?

If you are saying to have volte quality then you are right.

A call B:
A (iphone VoLTE) to B (3310) = the call at A will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (3310) to B (iphone VoLTE) = the call at B will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (iphone VoLTE to B (iphone VoLTE) = both side will at VoLTE, remain at 4G .. if network stable, it only requires 1s to reach B, same as wifi calling to wifi calling

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 06:24 PM)
To enjoy these new features, which come at no additional cost, both devices making and receiving the call must be VoLTE-capable with the feature switched on and with both customers located within Digi’s 4G LTE coverage area.
This one? Perhaps the feature is VoLTE quality.
How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
Another fact, if YES 4G VoLTE call maxis user now? what should they do? drop to 3G(they only have volte)? call drop?

If you are saying to have volte quality then you are right.

A call B:
A (iphone VoLTE) to B (3310) = the call at A will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (3310) to B (iphone VoLTE) = the call at B will still VoLTE, remain at 4G
A (iphone VoLTE to B (iphone VoLTE) = both side will at VoLTE, remain at 4G .. if network stable, it only requires 1s to reach B, same as wifi calling to wifi calling
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as the news link stated, NOW is strictly Digi to Digi where both end are iPhone VoLTE capable phones. then and only then the VoLTE will go through.

the VoLTE features has to be supported at the LTE's EPC, the equipment is called IMS, within digi own LTE network, which is ZTE, i believe the IMS is also belong to ZTE, i m not sure on this. if it is ZTE, ZTE only need to maintain their own IMS and solve the VoLTE problem if any issue arises. but when you are talking about Inter-Telco VoLTE call, the IMS of telco A will have to route to IMS of telco B to make VoLTE possible, I am not if there has been live or not, I didnt follow this news closely though.

How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
--------a phone with VoLTE capablity will have a tag of this features when making the call setup, when the EPC receive this VoLTE tag, it will check if the destination caller is also on the LTE network and support VoLTE, if it has, then the call will patch through on 4G network, else it would be fallback to 3G or 2G depending on the signal conditions.

volte quality to me is VoLTE features, but the news link claimed it is HD-Voice, which 3G already can support HD voice when circuit switch can handled AMR-WB codec of 12.65Kbps.

as for VoLTE is double the bitrate, or 23.85kbps to be more precise. Calls will sound even clearer, and that is the highest possible bitrate defined in 3GPP standard for VoLTE. which i believe is also the same bitrate for VoWIFI



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QUOTE(AMG2016 @ Oct 27 2016, 07:07 PM)
What is the purpose of VoLTE when calling is free on the line itself? Wont VoLTE consume my data?
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It's main purpose is to improve audio quality dramatically and allow more more advanced features like better noise cancellation.
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Right now iPhone 6 and above have VoLTE support. The 5s has the hardware required to do it but Apple has decided not to enable it. Digi is unable to enable VoLTE for other devices right now because VoLTE unlike LTE, requires carrier and manufacture certification and testing for it to work. The reason iPhone was chosen is probably because iPhone does not have so many variations and has a unified system for pushing these updates required to enable it. Plus, it is probably one of the more popular devices too. Android, as much as I don't like to say it, is very fragmented. Digi is probably gonna target the most popular android phones for now which are probably Samsung's S-series and Note series.
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QUOTE(AMG2016 @ Oct 27 2016, 07:07 PM)
What is the purpose of VoLTE when calling is free on the line itself? Wont VoLTE consume my data?
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With the old circuit switched voice calls over 2G and 3G, a dedicated bandwidth is reserved for the call until it is ended. With packet switched voice calls like VoLTE, there is no dedicated bandwidth reserved for the call. So packet switched calls are the future because they use the bandwidth spectrum more efficiently.

You do raise a point about VoLTE calls eating into your data quota. My opinion is that they should not but I'm not sure what Digi's official word on this is.
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QUOTE(omega10 @ Oct 27 2016, 02:58 PM)
RM 10 for 8GB (7 days) no longer available for Older Plan today. I activated yesterday.
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It is still available, just checked using my phone. I'm on the 'old' Digi 80 plan (Digi 78v 7GB all day + 3GB weekend).
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QUOTE(jasontanky @ Oct 27 2016, 05:18 PM)
All app-only subscribe plan back to normal as well as postpaid online payment
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normal back but mine 4g is still broken..
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QUOTE(dani_irwan @ Oct 27 2016, 08:25 PM)
It is still available, just checked using my phone. I'm on the 'old' Digi 80 plan (Digi 78v 7GB all day + 3GB weekend).
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The offer re appeared. Probably is in response to Celcom new packages.

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QUOTE(tympg @ Oct 27 2016, 08:02 PM)
With the old circuit switched voice calls over 2G and 3G, a dedicated bandwidth is reserved for the call until it is ended.  With packet switched voice calls like VoLTE, there is no dedicated bandwidth reserved for the call.  So packet switched calls are the future because they use the bandwidth spectrum more efficiently.

You do raise a point about VoLTE calls eating into your data quota.  My opinion is that they should not but I'm not sure what Digi's official word on this is.
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The official word from Digi is that VoLTE does not count against your monthly internet quota.
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QUOTE(AMG2016 @ Oct 27 2016, 07:07 PM)
What is the purpose of VoLTE when calling is free on the line itself? Wont VoLTE consume my data?
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It uses different APN which is free of charge .....


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post Oct 27 2016, 08:46 PM

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QUOTE(jayko @ Oct 27 2016, 06:46 PM)
as the news link stated, NOW is strictly Digi to Digi where both end are iPhone VoLTE capable phones. then and only then the VoLTE will go through.

the VoLTE features has to be supported at the LTE's EPC, the equipment is called IMS, within digi own LTE network, which is ZTE, i believe the IMS is also belong to ZTE, i m not sure on this. if it is ZTE, ZTE only need to maintain their own IMS and solve the VoLTE problem if any issue arises. but when you are talking about Inter-Telco VoLTE call, the IMS of telco A will have to route to IMS of telco B to make VoLTE possible, I am not if there has been live or not, I didnt follow this news closely though.

How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
--------a phone with VoLTE capablity will have a tag of this features when making the call setup, when the EPC receive this VoLTE tag, it will check if the destination caller is also on the LTE network and support VoLTE, if it has, then the call will patch through on 4G network, else it would be fallback to 3G or 2G depending on the signal conditions.

volte quality to me is VoLTE features, but the news link claimed it is HD-Voice, which 3G already can support HD voice when circuit switch can handled AMR-WB codec of 12.65Kbps.

as for VoLTE is double the bitrate, or 23.85kbps to be more precise. Calls will sound even clearer, and that is the highest possible bitrate defined in 3GPP standard for VoLTE. which i believe is also the same bitrate for VoWIFI
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My iphone 6s plus still remain on 4G signal when receiving call from my friends using android phone from Maxis and Celcom blink.gif blink.gif biggrin.gif

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post Oct 27 2016, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(jayko @ Oct 27 2016, 06:46 PM)
as the news link stated, NOW is strictly Digi to Digi where both end are iPhone VoLTE capable phones. then and only then the VoLTE will go through.

the VoLTE features has to be supported at the LTE's EPC, the equipment is called IMS, within digi own LTE network, which is ZTE, i believe the IMS is also belong to ZTE, i m not sure on this. if it is ZTE, ZTE only need to maintain their own IMS and solve the VoLTE problem if any issue arises. but when you are talking about Inter-Telco VoLTE call, the IMS of telco A will have to route to IMS of telco B to make VoLTE possible, I am not if there has been live or not, I didnt follow this news closely though.
But currently the call will be like this.
For example DiGi user with volte call to YES 4G VoLTE

DiGi user --> DiGi IMS -- > DiGi 2G/3G network ---> YES 4G Gateway -- > YES 4G IMS --- YES 4G user
and both side will using VoLTE 100000000% for sure.

DiGi IMS network connects to other IMS network will be real after this, for better call setup advantages and saving TDM costs.
FYI, government previously still forcing telcos to use TDM for interconnection between telcos.
FYI, ZTE is ZTE. Many issues comes due to legacy 2G/3G/CSFB network. I cannot tell more at here smile.gif

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How can a phone will know who he dial is iphone with volte capability or no before reaching them?
--------a phone with VoLTE capablity will have a tag of this features when making the call setup, when the EPC receive this VoLTE tag, it will check if the destination caller is also on the LTE network and support VoLTE, if it has, then the call will patch through on 4G network, else it would be fallback to 3G or 2G depending on the signal conditions.
A big wrong.

EPC/PGW detect this when user register VoLTE via different APN (which is "ims" for U Mobile, DiGi and Yes 4G, im not sure whether this is standard APN for all VoLTE in the world or no). Then phone will perform SIP registration to IMS network.
Calling will cause phone trigger SIP calling to ANY numbers, as long as the number exist (999 and 112 are still pending MCMC standard).
VoLTE and Wifi calling all using SIP call. A SIP call wont check where is the destination or even the destination is fix line, or mobile or VoLTE or no. The call just go through.
If i am U Mobile and U are digi, and u can know my subscriber using VoLTE or no then GG ad lo me biggrin.gif
but end to end HD voice capability can work if both parties agree on this smile.gif
For example, DiGi VoLTE users ---> DiGi IMS ---> DiGi 23G ---> UM 3G ---> UM users (who phone support HD voice)
But ... slow slow wait.... government very slow at this.

talking about SIP call,
Did u see any skype call cant reach fix line/mobile phones?
Did u see any voip calls cant reach fix line/mobile phones due to they are SIP calling?
All legacy networks are accepting SIP INVITE and processing accordingly.
Those calls between MSCs and between OLOs are now using SIP protocol too(this one seldom, will implement soon).

And im holding iphone 6. I can call anyone using VoLTE (my signal wont drop to 3G).
And also Im part of the VoLTE testing. Im sure how DiGi core network/IMS network works.

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volte quality to me is VoLTE features, but the news link claimed it is HD-Voice, which 3G already can support HD voice when circuit switch can handled AMR-WB codec of 12.65Kbps.

as for VoLTE is double the bitrate, or 23.85kbps to be more precise. Calls will sound even clearer, and that is the highest possible bitrate defined in 3GPP standard for VoLTE. which i believe is also the same bitrate for VoWIFI
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Im not sure bout this... but normal call is 64kbps dedicated bandwidth... i think HD voice is more to the kHz the audio is captured? even though 3G HD voice also got 6.xx kbps

Currently digi maxis umobile celcom using 12.65kbps for HD voice codec bit.... and UM normal call using 12.2kbps... tat is y UM calls will be only slightly difference between HD call and normal call in its 3G network smile.gif

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QUOTE(AMG2016 @ Oct 27 2016, 09:01 PM)
Tried to activate Volte on my iphone. Doesnt seem to work. The carrier settigs is 26.1 instead of 27
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which model you having?
I got iphone 7+ not working with volte
but iphone 6+ working with volte

both 10.1 and carrier 26.1 blink.gif

and how long you insert your digi sim to your iphone.
DiGi has to enable your sim to VoLTE enabled and send u a sms that your number is activated VOLTE. blink.gif

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QUOTE(AMG2016 @ Oct 27 2016, 07:07 PM)
What is the purpose of VoLTE when calling is free on the line itself? Wont VoLTE consume my data?
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Using different APN when you perform registration and making calls. And the billing only charges my3g APN instead of VoLTE punya APN smile.gif
Previously, when u make a call, the signal will drop to 3G. Actually it is quite insecure as the fallback to 3G steps are not guarantee.
Of coz, our calls will drop to 3G if we make VoLTE calls where there is weak LTE coverage.
Perhaps telco wanna users consume data in 4G network instead of legacy 2/3G network.
Soon the 2G and 3G will be dead also biggrin.gif

QUOTE(jack2001 @ Oct 27 2016, 07:36 PM)
Right now iPhone 6 and above have VoLTE support. The  5s has the hardware required to do it but Apple has decided not to enable it. Digi is unable to enable VoLTE for other devices right now because VoLTE unlike LTE, requires carrier and manufacture certification and testing for it to work. The reason iPhone was chosen is probably because iPhone does not have so many variations and has a unified system for pushing these updates required to enable it. Plus, it is probably one of the more popular devices too. Android, as much as I don't like to say it, is very fragmented. Digi is probably gonna target the most popular android phones for now which are probably Samsung's S-series and Note series.
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My opinion is it is just because iphone brand supported VoLTE devices amount has the most among DiGi network. Followed by Samsung.
They already finished test with samsung and going to live anytime smile.gif

QUOTE(Kiding @ Oct 27 2016, 08:46 PM)
My iphone 6s plus still remain on 4G signal when receiving call from my friends using android phone from Maxis and Celcom  blink.gif  blink.gif  biggrin.gif
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That is why im totally disagree any of his point dry.gif Never mind, we learn new thing smile.gif
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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 09:23 PM)
My opinion is it is just because iphone brand supported VoLTE devices amount has the most among DiGi network. Followed by Samsung.
They already finished test with samsung and going to live anytime smile.gif
That is why im totally disagree any of his point  dry.gif Never mind, we learn new thing smile.gif
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OH YES PLEASE! Any chance that you can give an estimated timeline? Btw, can I ask why does Digi not display 4G+ when connected to LTE-A when Maxis and Celcom does. I talking about the S7 Edge.

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QUOTE(jack2001 @ Oct 27 2016, 09:31 PM)
OH YES PLEASE! Any chance that you can give an estimated timeline? Btw, can I ask why does Digi not display 4G+ when connected to LTE-A when Maxis and Celcom does. I talking about the S7 Edge.
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you sure u connected to LTE-A?
you sure u get 100mbps above when connect only 4G?
What is ur edge model?

I only tested 100mbps above with iphone 7+ only I believe the phone is support LTE-A cry.gif
will not certified 100mbps below as LTE-A as long as the phone din show 4G+ or iphone(stupid iphone!!!)

launch date for S7 edge user?
Did u receive SMS that your number activated VoLTE? If yes, then it will come real soon.
Else need to wait lo biggrin.gif

DiGi activate user profile based on the device they used smile.gif

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QUOTE(prosibu @ Oct 27 2016, 10:05 PM)
you sure u connected to LTE-A?
you sure u get 100mbps above when connect only 4G?
What is ur edge model?

I only tested 100mbps above with iphone 7+ only I believe the phone is support LTE-A  cry.gif
will not certified 100mbps below as LTE-A as long as the phone din show 4G+ or iphone(stupid iphone!!!)

launch date for S7 edge user?
Did u receive SMS that your number activated VoLTE? If yes, then it will come real soon.
Else need to wait lo  biggrin.gif

DiGi activate user profile based on the device they used smile.gif
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I know I am connected to LTE-A as I checked through the phone hidden menu. Plus, look at my signature, it is over 100mbps. Any theories behind why this is?

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