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kintsuchi
post Oct 11 2016, 01:49 AM

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How about tathering tru phone usb..to pc..
Any 1 try before does it work
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post Oct 11 2016, 01:52 AM

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QUOTE(kintsuchi @ Oct 11 2016, 01:49 AM)
How about tathering tru phone usb..to pc..
Any 1 try before does it work
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Usb is the easiest, no root or JB needed coz Telco more worried about mulitple sharing via wifi hotspot.
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post Oct 11 2016, 03:36 AM

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usb tether wifi tether make no different
they still detect NAT or whatever you want to call it and will present you with this page if isn't done correctly
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Let me quote this for general knowledge
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How they detect that someone is tethering a device isn't something that network providers often want to talk about, for the obvious reason that the more consumers know about how this is being detected, the easier it is for them to find ways to hide the fact that they're doing it, and avoid the associated extra charges (1). However there are certain known techniques that will give away the fact that you're currently tethering, if your Service Provider happens to be running the right tool to check for these indicators:

Your Phone asks your network if tethering is allowed

The first and easiest method is that some phones will query the network to check whether the current contract allows tethering, and then totally disable the tethering options on the device in software if not. This generally only happens if you are running an OS version that has been customized by your Provider, example 1 example 2.

Your phone tells your network that you are tethering

It's also rumoured that some phones have a second set of APN details saved in them by the phone network, when you enable tethering they switch over to using this second APN for all tethered traffic, while using the normal APN for traffic originating on the phone. However I haven't found any concrete evidence of this, other than people finding odd APNs and wondering what they're for (bear in mind that an unlocked phone bought off-contract may have hundreds or thousands of APNs stored on it, ready for use on whichever network in whichever country the eventual owner decides to use it).

Inspecting the network packets for their TTL (time to live)

Every network packet travelling across a TCP/IP network, like the internet, has a built-in time-to-live (TTL) set on it, so that in case there is a problem with that packet reaching its destination this will stop it travelling around the network forever clogging everything up.

The way this works is that the packet starts with a TTL number (say 128) set on it when it leaves the sending device (your phone, or laptop), and then every time that packet travels through a router of any kind (like your home broadband router, or a router at your ISP or phone company) that router subtracts one from the TTL (which would decrement the TTL to 127 in this example), the next router it travels through will in turn decrement the TTL again, and so on, if the TTL ever reaches zero then the router it's at discards the packet and doesn't transmit it again.

When your phone is tethering it acts like a router so, as the packet passes from your tethered laptop through your phone and onto the phone network, your phone will subtract "1" from the TTL to show that the packet has passed through its first router. The phone networks know what the expected TTLs from common devices are (for instance packets from an iPhone always start at a TTL of 64), and so they can spot when they're one less (or totally different) than they're expecting.

MAC address inspection

Devices on a TCP/IP network, like the internet, all have a unique MAC ID set on their network interfaces. This is made up of two halves, one half identifying the manufacturer of the interface, and the other half being a unique identifier assigned by the manufacturer (like a serial number). Every network packet that is sent out will have been "stamped" with the MAC address of the originating device's network port. The MAC address of your laptop's wifi card will have a very different manufacturer and serial code than the MAC address of your phone's 3G interface.

TCP/IP Stack Fingerprinting

Different computer Operating Systems (eg Android, iOS, Windows, Mac OSX, Linux, etc) set up their TCP/IP stacks with different default values and settings (eg the Initial Packet Size, Initial TTL, Window Size...). The combination of these values can give a "fingerprint" that can be used to identify what operating system is running on the originating device. A side-effect of this may mean that if you're using an uncommon OS, or an OS that's similar to your phone's on your other device, your tethering may not be spotted.

Looking at the Destination IP/URL

You can learn a lot by what a device regularly communicates with.

For instance, many OSs these days do Captive Portal Detection when they first connect to a wifi network (such as your wifi tether connection), they do this by trying to connect to a known web server across the internet, and checking to see if they get the response that they're expecting. If the expected response is not received, then it's likely that the wifi connection you're on is a "captive portal" and may need you to log in, or pay, to connect to it. As Microsoft OSs (like Windows Vista and Windows 7 check with a Microsoft server by default and other OSs like Android, MacOS and so on all connect to their parent company's servers to do these checks, it can be used as a good indication of the operating system just after the initial connection is made.

Additionally, if a device regularly contacts the Windows Update servers, then it's very likely that device is a Windows PC or laptop, whereas if it regularly checks with Google's Android update servers, then it's probably a phone. Or if they can see that you're connecting to the Apple App Store, but the IMEI of the device that your SIM card is in indicates that it's not an Apple device, maybe you're tethering an iPad to an Android phone?

More sophisticated systems can look at a whole range of data seeing who you're communicating with (eg are you connecting to the Facebook app's API servers which is more likely from a phone, or to Facebook's web servers which is more likely from a PC) and add a whole load of these indicators together to create a fingerprint that indicates what sort of device you're likely to be using. Some of these fingerprints can be caught out when new device types and services come out, for instance there are reports that just after tablets with built-in 3G came out, some owners of these on the AT&T network received mails warning them that they'd been tethering when they hadn't, as the fingerprint from this new style of device didn't look like a typical phone.

- from http://android.stackexchange.com/questions...cl-wifi-hotspot

This post has been edited by johnlth93: Oct 11 2016, 03:40 AM
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post Oct 11 2016, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(johnlth93 @ Oct 11 2016, 12:40 AM)
pm no reply blush.gif
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Invited.

QUOTE(weiquata @ Oct 11 2016, 01:02 AM)
But, would the official purposely create a new lowyat account to join the wechat group?
The verification seems not strong enough to identify the true user..
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New account registered after yesterday will not be allowed to join unless recommended by group member.

QUOTE(r-care @ Oct 11 2016, 01:20 AM)
i dont have wechat.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif  sweat.gif
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How about telegram?

QUOTE(phh9310 @ Oct 11 2016, 01:36 AM)
Use telegram bro I don have wechat
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My telegram username is Emimarson.
Btw I think there are much lesser members in Telegram, but will give it a try, add me.
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post Oct 11 2016, 07:26 AM

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So now official separate the tethering method? lol..
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post Oct 11 2016, 10:19 AM

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QUOTE(kuronoku @ Oct 11 2016, 08:34 AM)
anyone using s7 for webe?

i wonder why s7 not listed, only s7 edge.

- Galaxy S6
- Galaxy S6 Edge
- Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
- Galaxy S7 Edge
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maybe they missed this out since both support band 5? perhaps you can just drop them message asking for them to certify it too? icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Oct 11 2016, 10:26 AM

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why need join group when you can search online how to tether so hard ka haha.
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post Oct 11 2016, 10:34 AM

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QUOTE(kuronoku @ Oct 11 2016, 08:34 AM)
anyone using s7 for webe?

i wonder why s7 not listed, only s7 edge.

- Galaxy S6
- Galaxy S6 Edge
- Galaxy S6 Edge Plus
- Galaxy S7 Edge
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Maybe they in the process of updating..
Give them time blush.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(sardan91 @ Oct 11 2016, 10:26 AM)
why need join group when you can search online how to tether so hard ka haha.
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tiada paksaan utk join... nak join boleh, xmo pun boleh. xde charge smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 11:15 AM

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QUOTE(kuronoku @ Oct 11 2016, 10:48 AM)
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thanks.

yes, its supported.
found on their website.
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Samsung S7 still not certified. Is just a list of phone that currently on the market.
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post Oct 11 2016, 11:28 AM

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i really not satisfied with webe handling their case. i was reported few cases and given the case number, but the case not yet solved and suddenly it closed automatically. another case is very long to solved even they already called me few times saying that the case can be solve within a day but after a week still no updates. when contacting their live chat, what i get is a copy paste answer that i received many times previously. i guess it is time to report it to SKMM.
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QUOTE(ejump82 @ Oct 11 2016, 11:28 AM)
i really not satisfied with webe handling their case. i was reported few cases and given the case number, but the case not yet solved and suddenly it closed automatically. another case is very long to solved even they already called me few times saying that the case can be solve within a day but after a week still no updates. when contacting their live chat, what i get is a copy paste answer that i received many times previously. i guess it is time to report it to SKMM.
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Yup. No use to complaint to webe anymore..
They really incompetent..
Skmm is the way forward.. After report webe will be superb fast in solving your case blush.gif
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QUOTE(ejump82 @ Oct 11 2016, 11:28 AM)
i really not satisfied with webe handling their case. i was reported few cases and given the case number, but the case not yet solved and suddenly it closed automatically. another case is very long to solved even they already called me few times saying that the case can be solve within a day but after a week still no updates. when contacting their live chat, what i get is a copy paste answer that i received many times previously. i guess it is time to report it to SKMM.
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i faced this issue too, but upon receiving the issue close mail i received a call from the person who i chat/handle my case saying she will follow-up the case. The next day i received an ETA for the case and it is solved within the promised date. They also called me to confirm the issue is resolved. Quite good service from my experienced. Today going to port over my Celcom. rclxm9.gif rclxm9.gif

p/s: my issue: not getting phone discount even i am using Note 4. but now already got it. smile.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(sardan91 @ Oct 11 2016, 10:26 AM)
why need join group when you can search online how to tether so hard ka haha.
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u know why, some are very lazy n not dare to try, so they wanna confirm can work then only subscribe
for me, if you wanna get something at this price, just subscribe n try it out urself, later all get banned and no more free tethering if they found out the working one
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Oct 11 2016, 11:43 AM)
u know why, some are very lazy n not dare to try, so they wanna confirm can work then only subscribe
for me, if you wanna get something at this price, just subscribe n try it out urself, later all get banned and no more free tethering if they found out the working one
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not everybody is knowledgeable as you thought. If you dont want to join the group be it, dont condemn ppl who willing to share with others.
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post Oct 11 2016, 12:22 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Oct 11 2016, 12:09 PM)
not everybody is knowledgeable as you thought. If you dont want to join the group be it, dont condemn ppl who willing to share with others.
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i already told u all, don't ever share the workable method, else webe undercover will get the information and solve it
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Oct 11 2016, 12:22 PM)
i already told u all, don't ever share the workable method, else webe undercover will get the information and solve it
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webe undercover dunno how to google?? doh.gif
Lets do TT session then tongue.gif
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post Oct 11 2016, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(manx @ Oct 11 2016, 12:09 PM)
not everybody is knowledgeable as you thought. If you dont want to join the group be it, dont condemn ppl who willing to share with others.
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pm your group for info sharing. many thanks.
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QUOTE(tan_aniki @ Oct 11 2016, 12:22 PM)
i already told u all, don't ever share the workable method, else webe undercover will get the information and solve it
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If u think Webe ppl are so smart, n like u said if they are not lazy they can find out all the loopholes by googling n mend/solve them.
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got my 1st bill a few days back. need to pay rm50.30. in the bill it state advance payment. so meaning that we need to pay 1 month in advance according to the bill?



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