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TSIceBikers
post Jan 31 2007, 06:12 PM, updated 19y ago

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our computer isn't safe at all even had anti virus intalled. i tried(accordingly)
- AVG
- AVast
- kaspersky
and
- AntiVir

my experienced tell me that,

Avast able to detect the virus which AVG can't.
AntiVir able to detect backdoor virus which AVG n Avast n kaspersky can't.

so i come to this conclusion non of any anti virus are reliable. I wasn't mean they r not good but i realized diff anti virus has diff sensitivity. So it is pointless to say discuss which is good until we try it out ourselves.

while writing this thread, i had a suggestion which is change anti virus from time to time.


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post Jan 31 2007, 06:35 PM

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Did u manage to update them before scan ur pc?

here sum review for u:
http://forum.lowyat.net/index.php?act=findpost&pid=9507579

http://www.dozleng.com/updates/index.php?showtopic=10979
TSIceBikers
post Jan 31 2007, 07:19 PM

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yup, update daily smile.gif
thanks for the link

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post Feb 1 2007, 12:20 AM

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why you dun make a conclusion "we should acquire 2 or more antivirus at one times" ??
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post Feb 1 2007, 09:50 AM

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while writing this thread, i had a suggestion which is change anti virus from time to time.


Bad idea. You would be Over clogging your registry, thus might be causing slow performance and sometimes BSOD. You can opt for 2 AVs. It might not make much of a difference, but you can do so for safety sake. Refer my Siggy for SAFE Combinations.

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post Feb 1 2007, 03:12 PM

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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Feb 1 2007, 12:20 AM)
why you dun make a conclusion "we should acquire 2 or more antivirus at one times" ??
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Installing more than 1 antivirus in a single Windows may cause a lot of problems, conflicts, etc. Besides, the time it takes to scan your files is not something you'd like to see.
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post Feb 1 2007, 03:16 PM

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QUOTE(mozane @ Feb 1 2007, 03:12 PM)
Installing more than 1 antivirus in a single Windows may cause a lot of problems, conflicts, etc. Besides, the time it takes to scan your files is not something you'd like to see.
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thats why need to do research
and find a good combination between all of the AV!!

i juz found that AVG and Avast! can be combine only...
correct me if im wrong
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post Feb 1 2007, 04:12 PM

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i juz found that AVG and Avast! can be combine only...
correct me if im wrong

Can Combine ONLY? That is a bit narrow... Refer my siggy. I made a full explanation of safe combos I have tested. Cheers!
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post Feb 1 2007, 05:46 PM

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For the uninitiated, the combo that works for me = AVS +Nod32[on demand scanner only]

Yet, if you switch AV after a period of time, what's the point anyway?
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post Feb 1 2007, 11:33 PM

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i was using AVG at first then i change to AVAST,Avast able to detect virus wihtin my pc while AVG can't. After a while i give a try on kaspersky and it is fine.. until i change to AntiVir, its able to detect "agent.b" on a tracker site which i always visit which AVG,AVAST and kaspersky not able.

so i came out this suggestion of changing anti virus from time to time.
i wasn't saying using multiple anti virus together.
anyway i'm using ZA security suite.
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post Feb 2 2007, 12:07 AM

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First, you get the fuss of uninstalling and reinstalling AVs all the time.
Secondly, if your uninstallation fails you're gonna be in deep trouble such as NAV or KAV.
Third, the reason why some antivirus detects what others can't because they don't have a similar virus database. Anyway if they are the same why bother switching it then? laugh.gif
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post Feb 2 2007, 01:56 PM

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First, you get the fuss of uninstalling and reinstalling AVs all the time.
Secondly, if your uninstallation fails you're gonna be in deep trouble such as NAV or KAV.
Third, the reason why some antivirus detects what others can't because they don't have a similar virus database. Anyway if they are the same why bother switching it then?  laugh.gif


Thumbs up on that. Said everything that I would have said.

If you are really paranoid, having 2 AVs will cover most of the "overlooked" Signatures. If you insist on Installing 1 AV then Uninstalling, then Installing Another AV, be my guest. You have all freedom to do so, but we would advice you not to. many complications after that. Cheers!

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post Feb 2 2007, 06:59 PM

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it might be the virus library ?
may be some are big some are small ..
but nothing is prefect
why not install 2 - 3 AV
and scan accordingly ,
use AV 1
then follow up by AV 2 then AV 3 biggrin.gif
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:07 PM

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no things perfect la...if the perfect one was created,then nobody will buy the other one.so,simple say no reliable AV.but some of AV working perfect.depend to the user itself...
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:09 PM

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my fren com got all 4 anti virus running 24/7 ler
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:12 PM

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i think the best should be
1 Firewall + a few AntiVirus + a few Anti Spyware/Malware

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post Feb 2 2007, 09:13 PM

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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 2 2007, 09:09 PM)
my fren com got all 4 anti virus running 24/7 ler
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how come??? rclxub.gif

no lagging ka? sweat.gif sweat.gif
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QUOTE(tan_pang @ Feb 2 2007, 09:12 PM)
i think the best should be
1 Firewall + a few AntiVirus + a few Anti Spyware/Malware
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like that i think raptor hardisk also slow down and lag
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post Feb 2 2007, 09:15 PM

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QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 2 2007, 09:13 PM)
like that i think raptor hardisk also slow down and lag
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then what you want?? unsure.gif

you can choose the most lightweight
and there is some AV software which also can anti spyware/malware
like Avast! (correct me if im wrong)

EDIT: there is many software that can antivirus/spyware/malware in the sametimes too icon_rolleyes.gif

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post Feb 3 2007, 07:34 PM

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QUOTE(Andrewhajime @ Feb 2 2007, 06:59 PM)
it might be the virus library ?
may be some are big some are small ..
but nothing is prefect
why not install 2 - 3 AV
and scan accordingly ,
use AV 1
then follow up by AV 2 then AV 3 biggrin.gif
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How much time will it consume for you to scan a HDD with 3 AV's? o.O

QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 2 2007, 09:09 PM)
my fren com got all 4 anti virus running 24/7 ler
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Respect.. doh.gif

QUOTE(Malaysian @ Feb 2 2007, 09:13 PM)
like that i think raptor hardisk also slow down and lag
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Lol sweat.gif

@natakaasd - We shall enlighten the ones need to be enlightened. Lol. laugh.gif
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post Feb 5 2007, 10:52 AM

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I am inactive for some time. Enlightened those that ought to be enlightened? Nah. I won't do that anymore. Retired you know. LOL.

For those who are really intend in Real/Fake/(up to you) Security Software combinations, you can refer to my Siggy. I take NO Responsibility for any mishap caused.

Playing/Fiddling/Using Security Software is in fact a novelty if you know what you are installing/running/scanning/uninstalling/combo-"ing". I will say no further. Cheers!
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post Feb 5 2007, 02:22 PM

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@natakaasd,

I hope my modification done to my sig makes ppl that need to be enlightened receives the enlightenment... smile.gif

Often we can see that ppl asking for this and that but at the first place it's been discussed over and over again.. Sigh. Sad case.
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post Feb 6 2007, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Feb 5 2007, 02:22 PM)
@natakaasd,

I hope my modification done to my sig makes ppl that need to be enlightened receives the enlightenment... smile.gif

Often we can see that ppl asking for this and that but at the first place it's been discussed over and over again.. Sigh. Sad case.
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yeah...im agreed.most of the thing had been discussed.maybe some forumer need quick solutions so that didnt make a search before ask a thing sweat.gif
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post Feb 6 2007, 12:18 PM

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IMO AV= waste money. Especially those with firewall.
Best would be just having Lavasoft's adware ,spybot and hijack that's pretty enough. AV is more like concept of Pacman swallowing polka dots.
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post Feb 6 2007, 12:33 PM

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well as for me, works well and peace of mind

1st system - AOL AVS + AdWare SE Pro + Windows Defender + Outpost Firewall

2nd system - ZoneAlarm 7 Security Suite (this is pretty good i must say)

3rd system - none tongue.gif

IMO, even with 10 most powerful Firewall/AVs/AMs but not with smart surf, they just ineffective as there's none AVs/AMs/Firewall...

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refer my sig also can... virus free...
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QUOTE(kurosaki @ Feb 6 2007, 12:18 PM)
IMO AV= waste money. Especially those with firewall.
Best would be just having Lavasoft's adware ,spybot and hijack that's pretty enough. AV is more like concept of Pacman swallowing polka dots.
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shocking.gif is ur home pc connected to interne without any protect from AV?
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QUOTE(super macgyver @ Feb 6 2007, 04:17 PM)
shocking.gif  is ur home pc connected to interne without any protect from AV?
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He'll regret when he's infected/hijacked. smile.gif
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post Feb 7 2007, 10:47 AM

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Hey guys, anybody want to start a Thread on Safe and Tested Combinations of Security Software? If 2 -3 people agree, maybe we can start one (to reduce people from asking whether like or like that is safe). Cheers!
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post Feb 7 2007, 12:16 PM

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I would stand neutral, as I don't have a laptop, nor I'm at home now tongue.gif

You'll get my point.
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post Feb 12 2007, 12:03 AM

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QUOTE(natakaasd @ Feb 7 2007, 10:47 AM)
Hey guys, anybody want to start a Thread on Safe and Tested Combinations of Security Software? If 2 -3 people agree, maybe we can start one (to reduce people from asking whether like or like that is safe). Cheers!
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i will support you bro thumbup.gif its a good idea rclxms.gif


QUOTE(eXPeri3nc3 @ Feb 7 2007, 12:16 PM)
I would stand neutral, as I don't have a laptop, nor I'm at home now tongue.gif

You'll get my point.
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i dont get it...how come it related to laptop???

 

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