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 APPLE PAY IN MALAYSIA, Official arrives in Malaysia! Aug 2022!

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post Dec 16 2021, 02:42 PM

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QUOTE(vostroxe @ Dec 16 2021, 02:21 PM)
Haha..Quite straight to the point..But I agree with you. I regret spent time and money for nothing. Every time want to add money to card also got fee due to foreign exchange fee. Not worth it at all.
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Yeah agreed, a lot of effort just to flex your Apple Pay but the chance of them terminating your account is too risky for me. As I frequently do international transfers and don’t want to carry to much cash abroad; I don’t want to be blacklisted from engaging with their services in the future just to have the satisfaction of a few Apple Pay transactions.
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post Dec 19 2021, 02:05 PM

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Boost Juice had since day 1
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post Dec 20 2021, 11:26 PM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 20 2021, 11:18 PM)
This is physical store
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You serious, got any photos?
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post Dec 21 2021, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(faizalmzain @ Dec 21 2021, 03:42 AM)
[url=https ://photos.app.goo.gl/V62mADoNLvhTf9yS8]https:
//photos.app.goo.gl/V62mADoNLvhTf9yS8[/url]
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Cool, but which branch of Foot Locker?

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post Dec 21 2021, 02:24 PM

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It’s real, Apple Pay might be coming; however unlike your photo. It has been blocked out

https ://imgur.com/a/SPve6ar
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post Dec 21 2021, 06:26 PM

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QUOTE(@POTUS @ Dec 21 2021, 05:45 PM)
Rimau bank app down for few times, u guys cooking something back end there?😂
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Yeah recently wanted to do a bank transfer but noticed the app is doing an unscheduled maintenance. Hope this is the real deal.
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post Dec 24 2021, 12:20 AM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Dec 23 2021, 10:39 PM)
I don't believe an iOS X.X or even iOS X.X.X is required to launch AP. It all boils down to the JSON file that I shared few pages back. If Apple were to update that JSON file to include MY, then I believe our devices that set to MY region will automatically gain the "+" logo in the Wallet app.
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Yes agreed, the iOS version doesn’t matter when it comes to Apple Pay support in Malaysia. Apple Pay has already been in use for years in other supported countries. It’s a matter when the card issuer (bank in our case), Apple and third parties (like Visa, MC or MyDebit) working together to enable Apple Pay in Malaysia. If all parties don’t work together, then Apple Pay would not be supported in Malaysia.

Just curious, PosionSoul has the JSON file included the country code MY when tapping the “+” logo in Apple Wallet.
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post Dec 24 2021, 12:36 AM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Dec 24 2021, 12:32 AM)
Here lol
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Also, how to find my post
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Appreciate it, still no MY code 😔

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post Dec 28 2021, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(RonanGow @ Dec 28 2021, 06:07 PM)
Lol, I have signed many of this, I don’t think apple will even care such sign petition
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The point of the petition is to tell the banks that consumers are interested having Apple Pay in Malaysia. Apple can only do so much on their end, if the banks and the network providers don’t work together with Apple; there will be no Apple Pay support.
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post Dec 28 2021, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(RonanGow @ Dec 28 2021, 06:54 PM)
Yeah, the only thing we can do is just wait for the update, fingers crossed Apple Pay will launch in Q1 2022
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I hope so, having Apple Pay in Malaysia by Q1 2022 would make 2022 at least a better year nod.gif

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post Dec 30 2021, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(armin3d @ Dec 30 2021, 05:03 PM)
Until apple pay comes to malaysia, i just hide a mastercard under back of my phone case. it works just like apple pay 😅😅😅
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Same, but I use a MagSafe case to hold my card of choice and pretend I have Apple Pay
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post Dec 31 2021, 10:14 PM

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QUOTE(PoisonSoul @ Dec 31 2021, 10:09 PM)
I just used my Watch to pay just now @ a F&B stall. The staff wasn't even amused. Staff was like "k"  dry.gif
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If I were to switch my Wise MY to Wise SG account. Would the physical (green) card still work?

Don’t want to order another one since after 1st January they will charge RM13.70 for the card and even more for express deilvery.
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post Jan 4 2022, 11:27 AM

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QUOTE(creep @ Dec 2 2021, 09:07 PM)
ok just completed my part for this project ….launch date shld be mid December this year or latest by 5th january2022 ….only 1 bank involved
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Tomorrow is the last day for Creep’s prediction
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post Jan 7 2022, 01:07 AM

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from my friend who works at BNM

BNM doesnt like :

1) Multi device authentication of apple pay (1 card can be used on phone and watch)
2) Apple pay doesnt require pin for transactions above RM250
3) Apple pay doesnt have a daily limit for contactless transactions

Not sure if above applies to samsung pay also?

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The fact that BNM are asking these questions makes me really question the competence of the person/people in charge of spearheading the Apple Pay project. Do they even understand the basics of the project they are working on. Like have they even used Apple Pay (either in the testing phase or just asking their international friends for their cards to try it out?). Their lack of knowledge really shows their lack of enthusiasm for Apple Pay.


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That means whoever seems to be presenting it to Bank Negara seems to not be doing it well to explain the security.

1) Item one, is a lot more secure with the phone and watch as both the iPhone and Apple watch requires a PIN or faceID/Touch ID to be activated first in order to use it. If I were to misplace my credit card, someone can easily use it to its daily transaction limit already. Hence, assigning the physical card to the device is already an additional security add-on.
2) Hogwash, different countries have set different limits where certain transactions above a certain amount based on local currency requires a PIN - [url=https: //support.apple.com/en-us/HT207435]https: //support.apple.com/en-us/HT207435[/url]
3) Again, the person explaining it to BNM definitely didn't do their homework as well as other banks globally usually default the limits and restrictions to the card. Here is an example
[url=https: //www.westpac.com.au/faq/apple-pay-transaction-limits/]https: //www.westpac.com.au/faq/apple-pay-transaction-limits/[/url]

Honestly, as someone who has worked in banking before, I can definitely say it isn't Bank Negara's fault. It is always the project manager or the representative of the team who presents it and explains it to Bank Negara is mostly at fault. And yes, I have been in a room explaining new technology to Bank Negara before as well as the underlying processes and how risk is mitigated.
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As well explained by Mavik in order to use Apple Pay, the user has to authentic (unless Express Travel Mode) with Face/Touch ID or with their passcode before authorising a payment. I would argue it’s more secure than your physical wallet because once a thief has your physical wallet in their possession; they can use the banknotes and your bank cards’ wave function to make payments. The only institution that allows you to manually disable contactless transactions in app is Wise. So in terms of theft, Apple Pay is more secure.

Merchants and card issuers would definitely have agreements on how much the transaction limit would be on contactless payments to prevent fraud. If they are unsure if the transaction is authorised, they can request the user to enter their PIN, sign a receipt or even request a different payment method.

As I always though, Apple Pay works like your bank card. However, it exists virtually. It’s having two different bank cards (physical and virtual) linked to the same account. It’s s like having two keys that unlock the same door lock. Like my door lock example, both keys (cards in our case) should have similar characteristics and limitations.

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[driftmeister] [creep] [Xaphier] pls pass this msg to your project manager or representative to BxM. Maybe it's one of you guy's Project Manager/Representative that is causing AP launch to be slowed.
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Agree with PoisonSoul, if you’re still bothered reading our messages driftmeister creep Xaphier, please contact the person/people in charge. Their lack of knowledge about Apple Pay is sabotaging it’s release date and it has made most people give up on Apple Pay’s release. I hope these issues would be resolved soon; as many hope one day they could just use their phone for contactless payments.
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post Jan 9 2022, 07:06 PM

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QUOTE(@POTUS @ Jan 7 2022, 10:55 AM)
Sounds like BNM is evaluating apple cash rather than apple pay
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How to even use Apple Cash if you can't even use Apple Pay?
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post Jan 10 2022, 02:28 PM

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Question for all the insider/leakers forumers working in the “financial/banking industry. Why don’t you share images of evidence of your “Apple Pay project”.

Of course, I get there are P&C agreements in place and consequences. I don’t get why can’t you share pictures of colleges texting about the project (with their names censored of course) or even you’re even daring, screenshot the digital card’s image on Apple Pay.

From what I have gone thru this forum, the rumours are just based on someone’s mouth, and no concrete evidence. Like why hype people for Apple Pay, if you know it’s not ready yet. I just accept that I can only get Apple Pay when I go abroad. I rest my case.
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post Jan 11 2022, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Jan 11 2022, 09:39 AM)
Risking job security for some internet point? Not gonna happen.
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Hahaha, my statement caught your attention. If you are willing to share, how’s progress and are there any hindrances to the project (obviously anything you can publicly disclose).
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post Jan 11 2022, 03:34 PM

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QUOTE(Xaphier @ Jan 11 2022, 01:46 PM)
March 2022. Likely red bank first.
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Appreciate the timeline; there’s a lot of banks in Malaysia that have the colour red, hope is the same one we are both thinking about. Wish the best for teams working on the project, and for it to be completed as you stated. 😃
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post Jan 12 2022, 01:01 PM

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This topic is long enough  XD Din expect it cant still survive till 2022.
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Yeah, I’m also equally suprised, you were here from the very beginning. Welcome back to the forum. shyan90’s

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dont think it will be scrap as many banks are pursuing, and money being spent. the project is almost at the last kick. Just matter of testing and sign off.
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Yeah doubt the banks will give up after investing a lot of money into the project. Hope the banks & BNM both have the same understanding of Apple Pay and agree on the certain risks of its platform.


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Here are some examples of Apple Pay frauds around the globe.

TLDR version: The technology itself isn't the cause of fraud but the setup of new cards from issuing banks into Apple Pay.

[url=https: //www.retaildive.com/ex/mobilecommercedaily/apple-pay-fraud-reflects-weakness-with-credit-cards-not-platform]https: //www.retaildive.com/ex/mobilecommerc...ds-not-platform[/url]

[url=https: //www.cnbc.com/2015/03/04/whos-at-fault-in-apple-pay-fraud-apple-or-banks.html]https: //www.cnbc.com/2015/03/04/whos-at-fau...e-or-banks.html[/url]

[url=https: //www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster/2019/03/27/millions-are-being-lost-to-apple-pay-fraudwill-apple-card-come-to-the-rescue/?sh=3c1c2127622f]https: //www.forbes.com/sites/thomasbrewster...sh=3c1c2127622f[/url]
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To my understanding, there are two methods of adding cards to Apple Pay.

Method 1
Open your card issuer’s App
Login & verify your details
Find ‘Add to Apple Wallet’ button
Add your card to Apple Wallet

Method 2
Open Apple Wallet
Tap the ‘+’ button
Scan or enter card details manually like Name, Card Number & Expiry Date
Then enter the Security Code (At this step, even if your set region is a supported Apple Pay country; it would reject any unsupported issuer)
Read & agree with the Terms & Conditions
It would verify the card details given with the card issuer
Then finally it would verify who is adding the card with methods like Text Message, Call or Email
(And I assume Card Issuer App verification would be supported like Maybank’s Secure2u, CIMB’s SecureTAC and etc.)

I’m not sure if it’s true but I remember watching some videos back when Apple Pay was released, it lacked the final verification step.
So bad people could get stolen credit card details in person or on the black market and add it to their iPhone.
Of course, as time went by they fixed these security flaws; but it must scary to know that it was that easy back then to commit fraud with Apple Pay.
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post Jan 13 2022, 11:35 PM

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QUOTE(me076310 @ Jan 13 2022, 07:31 PM)
Sorry guys, I can’t divulge the details but definitely not as late as March 2022.
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Hope your aim is better this time; don’t want another iOS incident. 😃

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