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post Sep 28 2016, 12:14 AM, updated 10y ago

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Hi,

May I know which is a good buy between the Proton Preve (2016) and the new Proton Persona (2016)?

Is it a good choice to buy a Proton Preve now or they will be a new successor (new model or facelift) to it soon?

Comparing it's features and price. Is the Preve worth the money compared to the Persona?

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post Sep 28 2016, 12:21 AM

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Yes. Worth it. Preve is much bigger than persona. A lot bigger.
I personally like the suprima more.
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:16 AM

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If not rushing, u should wait for new preve equip with new tgdi engine..
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:30 AM

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 28 2016, 08:16 AM)
If not rushing, u should wait for new preve equip with new tgdi engine..
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That will take at least a another 2 years down the road. And the reliability is not there yet. at least current CFE and VVT engine is already known to be Ok

reliable enough to win Sepang 1000km endurance race beating the likes of Honda VTECs with only a comedian in the drivers seat.
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:32 AM

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QUOTE(bizness @ Sep 28 2016, 12:14 AM)
Hi,

May I know which is a good buy between the Proton Preve (2016) and the new Proton Persona (2016)?

Is it a good choice to buy a Proton Preve now or they will be a new successor (new model or facelift) to it soon?

Comparing it's features and price. Is the Preve worth the money compared to the Persona?

Thanks smile.gif
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Preve is a much bigger car, can seat 3 chidl seat at the back seat.

Currently Persona has a quieter cabin and better fuel economy compared to Preve
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post Sep 28 2016, 08:56 AM

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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 08:30 AM)
That will take at least a another 2 years down the road. And the reliability is not there yet. at least current CFE and VVT engine is already known to be Ok

reliable enough to win Sepang 1000km endurance race beating the likes of Honda VTECs with only a comedian in the drivers seat.
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the sepang endurance preve use NA iafm 1.6..not the cfe vvt.

edited: suprima not preve

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post Sep 28 2016, 10:46 AM

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QUOTE(nuekkacak @ Sep 28 2016, 08:16 AM)
If not rushing, u should wait for new preve equip with new tgdi engine..
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lol!! then at that point you shpuld also wait for the engine to come after that~

makes sense if the engine is arriving soon... 2 years is not in anyway soon~

QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 08:30 AM)
That will take at least a another 2 years down the road. And the reliability is not there yet. at least current CFE and VVT engine is already known to be Ok

reliable enough to win Sepang 1000km endurance race beating the likes of Honda VTECs with only a comedian in the drivers seat.
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just fyi... other than the lack of siputs, their competitors were the run of the mill fuel sipping vtecs not the nastier variants

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post Sep 28 2016, 10:57 AM

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Persona.

Better NVH and more efficient engine. CVT also better than Preve.

Unless Proton overhauls the Preve massively, the Persona is a better buy.
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:06 AM

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Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no rationale reason to buy any Proton. I'm not eager to start a debate now, but please do see options including the Kia Rio, and 3-year-old VW, Kia, Hyundai models before settling on anything. There is world of difference in factors to consider both short-term and long-term when comparing any car against a Proton.
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(theanswer @ Sep 28 2016, 08:56 AM)
the sepang endurance preve use NA iafm 1.6..not the cfe vvt.

edited: suprima not preve
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the engine at sepang uses CFE engine block. It does not matter as long as VTEC got tah pau
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:21 AM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 28 2016, 10:46 AM)
lol!! then at that point you shpuld also wait for the engine to come after that~

makes sense if the engine is arriving soon... 2 years is not in anyway soon~
just fyi... other than the lack of siputs, their competitors were the run of the mill fuel sipping vtecs not the nastier variants
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The Proton also not using siput it is Naturally Aspirated Engine S4PH block driven by amateur driver against VTECs with pro driver
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:22 AM

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QUOTE(vanguard @ Sep 28 2016, 11:06 AM)
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no rationale reason to buy any Proton. I'm not eager to start a debate now, but please do see options including the Kia Rio, and 3-year-old VW, Kia, Hyundai models before settling on anything. There is world of difference in factors to consider both short-term and long-term when comparing any car against a Proton.
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The ride and handling of Proton is superior to Kia, Hyundai. and now with improved NVH it is already can be considered on par with some other established manufacturer. have you test drive?
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:24 AM

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QUOTE(vanguard @ Sep 28 2016, 11:06 AM)
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no rationale reason to buy any Proton. I'm not eager to start a debate now, but please do see options including the Kia Rio, and 3-year-old VW, Kia, Hyundai models before settling on anything. There is world of difference in factors to consider both short-term and long-term when comparing any car against a Proton.
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You must be kidding with Kia Rio rite?
Its not like we get the latest and greatest Rio here..
With the 6 speed AT...
A 4speed AT in this day and age?
Better buy Alza for the price..
Or even Vios..

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post Sep 28 2016, 11:28 AM

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QUOTE(khairilyazit @ Sep 28 2016, 11:24 AM)
You must be kidding with Kia Rio rite?
A 4speed AT in this day and age?
Better buy Alza for the price..
Or even Vios..
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And both the Alza and Vios are 4AT doh.gif
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:29 AM

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take preve premium..
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QUOTE(dtna7 @ Sep 28 2016, 11:28 AM)
And both the Alza and Vios are 4AT doh.gif
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And both are bigger than the Rio..
Easier to maintain too.. with SC everywhere..
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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 11:22 AM)
The ride and handling of Proton is superior to Kia, Hyundai. and now with improved NVH it is already can be considered on par with some other established manufacturer. have you test drive?
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most protons, yeah.... have tested 'most' of them (no luck finding a juara, arena, putra, you know those less common old ones). Not gona deny, the ride and handling is impressive, I myself have always said that proton does rather well in the handling/safety department. I have also said proton leaves much to be desired where built quality is concerned and in the engine tech department. vvt is nothing new, their take on vvt is still nothing impressive. It is just another application of vvt on their own engine.

The new persona, however i have only seen and touched, not test driven. As far as what i think about it? exterior looks pretty decent, actually like the front of this thing, the butt not so much but alright but the sides..... my god the stupid looking rims. largish body with tiny tyres make it look terrible. Interior?still lots of hard plastic (cheap pricetag, no real complaints here) and notchy switches (i think carried over from the iriz). I just dont get why they used 'brown/beige' for the centre trim.... hmm.gif makes it looks cheap. Rear interior space is actually much much much smaller than i had anticipated, based on the iriz so expected i guess... (least its better than the beza's upright rear seats~)

now as far as what you can tell in the test drive, friend said, its quieter (has a iriz, persona and neo in his household) ride but where handling is concerned, compared to the old persona, its not as nice to drive. It's a lighter smaller less wide car, even the sales man who spoke to him agreed, felt less stable than the old persona. (does not seem to hug the road as well) and its performance is terribad.

if you consider the price of this thing, bolehlah...
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post Sep 28 2016, 12:08 PM

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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 28 2016, 11:42 AM)
most protons, yeah.... have tested 'most' of them (no luck finding a juara, arena, putra, you know those less common old ones). Not gona deny, the ride and handling is impressive, I myself have always said that proton does rather well in the handling/safety department. I have also said proton leaves much to be desired where built quality is concerned and in the engine tech department. vvt is nothing new, their take on vvt is still nothing impressive. It is just another application of vvt on their own engine.

The new persona, however i have only seen and touched, not test driven. As far as what i think about it? exterior looks pretty decent, actually like the front of this thing, the butt not so much but alright but the sides..... my god the stupid looking rims. largish body with tiny tyres make it look terrible. Interior?still lots of hard plastic (cheap pricetag, no real complaints here) and notchy switches (i think carried over from the iriz). I just dont get why they used 'brown/beige' for the centre trim.... hmm.gif makes it looks cheap. Rear interior space is actually much much much smaller than i had anticipated, based on the iriz so expected i guess... (least its better than the beza's upright rear seats~)

now as far as what you can tell in the test drive, friend said, its quieter (has a iriz, persona and neo in his household) ride but where handling is concerned, compared to the old persona, its not as nice to drive. It's a lighter smaller less wide car, even the sales man who spoke to him agreed, felt less stable than the old persona. (does not seem to hug the road as well) and its performance is terribad.

if you consider the price of this thing, bolehlah...
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Go and test drive the Persona yourself. Don't just take your friends word.

it doesn't matter VVT is impressive or not. what matters is the result of engine response and fuel economy. Driving from Jengka 19 to tanjung lumpur in under 2 hours and returns 5.4L/100km is impressive enough.

Very typical people who condemn Proton never even ride in one, especially the current one.

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QUOTE(bizness @ Sep 28 2016, 12:14 AM)
Hi,

May I know which is a good buy between the Proton Preve (2016) and the new Proton Persona (2016)?

Is it a good choice to buy a Proton Preve now or they will be a new successor (new model or facelift) to it soon?

Comparing it's features and price. Is the Preve worth the money compared to the Persona?

Thanks smile.gif
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If you want the persona, make sure you book it before 30 September because the free 3 year service and parts promotion is only until this date. The 5 year warranty on persona still remains after this date.

Source: proton dealer. I am in proton right now surviving my suprima. BTW, the saga launch is today at 2 or 3 pm. The car is here now under wraps

QUOTE(vanguard @ Sep 28 2016, 11:06 AM)
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no rationale reason to buy any Proton. I'm not eager to start a debate now, but please do see options including the Kia Rio, and 3-year-old VW, Kia, Hyundai models before settling on anything. There is world of difference in factors to consider both short-term and long-term when comparing any car against a Proton.
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Maybe next 10 years when the German guy have time to use his BMW M pedigree on all cars.

3 year old vw = need to pay on parts. Persona cheaper here.

Persona has better fit than preve but less finish materials. I just been through the car like 2 hours ago. It is better than iriz.

On another note. Proton stopped making iriz 1.6 2 months now. Better get it quick. Dealer told me

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Thanks for all the input.

ericmaxman, heard of it. Everything in the Persona is improved.

mystvearn, already booked but the waiting time is too much. So reconsidering Preve Premium or wait for Persona.

Still in big dilemma. rclxub.gif
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QUOTE(bizness @ Sep 28 2016, 12:16 PM)
Thanks for all the input.

ericmaxman, heard of it. Everything in the Persona is improved.

mystvearn, already booked but the waiting time is too much. So reconsidering Preve Premium or wait for Persona.

Still in big dilemma.  rclxub.gif
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Persona Premium waiting time is now stands at 1.5 mth.
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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 12:08 PM)
Go and test drive the Persona yourself. Don't just take your friends word.

it doesn't matter VVT is impressive or not. what matters is the result of engine response and fuel economy. Driving from Jengka 19 to tanjung lumpur in under 2 hours and returns 5.4L/100km is impressive enough.

Very typical people who condemn Proton never even ride in one, especially the current one.
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1)im not condemning them, im just pointing out what i have heard and seen.... i did not condemn them, i basically stated its pros and cons
2)5.4L/100km isnt very impressive, my dads saga sv managed under 6l per 100km kl->taiping (99% smooth journey other than taiping town)
3)while i have not rode in this particular car yet, i have risen in basically all the other current models (only general variants, never sat or touched any of the special/limited production variants). my friend who has the iriz and the (old) persona has tested it and i have no reason to doubt his words..... (he does drive the other protons in his household often enough to know better)
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QUOTE(lsm1991 @ Sep 28 2016, 12:23 PM)
1)im not condemning them, im just pointing out what i have heard and seen.... i did not condemn them, i basically stated its pros and cons
2)5.4L/100km isnt very impressive, my dads saga sv managed under 6l per 100km kl->taiping (99% smooth journey other than taiping town)
3)while i have not rode in this particular car yet, i have risen in basically all the other current models (only general variants, never sat or touched any of the special/limited production variants). my friend who has the iriz and the (old) persona has tested it and i have no reason to doubt his words..... (he does drive the other protons in his household often enough to know better)
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and persona achive it with 1.6L engine with 200kg hevier body, wait till you get the result of 1.3 Saga VVT.

I genuinely ask you to go test drive the new Persona and Saga, you will change your mind as I and most people did. that is why Proton persona booking now is 11,000 unit just only a month after launch
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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 12:08 PM)
Go and test drive the Persona yourself. Don't just take your friends word.

it doesn't matter VVT is impressive or not. what matters is the result of engine response and fuel economy. Driving from Jengka 19 to tanjung lumpur in under 2 hours and returns 5.4L/100km is impressive enough.

Very typical people who condemn Proton never even ride in one, especially the current one.
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The fc is with manual or cvt variant? Roughly how long is that? Sorry not familiar with these two places
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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 12:27 PM)
and persona achive it with 1.6L engine with 200kg hevier body, wait till you get the result of 1.3 Saga VVT.

I genuinely ask you to go test drive the new Persona and Saga, you will change your mind as I and most people did. that is why Proton persona booking now is 11,000 unit just only a month after launch
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hehe actually going test later on after another friend gets his.... wanted to see whats the top spec model like, but the showroom near my place was very busy when i went to see and no cars for me to test with on the spot.
salesman not willing to take his deposit cause they havent even gotten the chassis/engine numbers (or some other numbers) yet.... eta about 1 month for him
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QUOTE(-Aktan- @ Sep 28 2016, 12:29 PM)
The fc is with manual or cvt variant? Roughly how long is that? Sorry not familiar with these two places
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The Journey around 120km, mixed of small town, B roads, highway and Kuantan City. the variant is CVT.
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QUOTE(vanguard @ Sep 28 2016, 11:06 AM)
Not to burst anyone's bubble, but there is no rationale reason to buy any Proton. I'm not eager to start a debate now, but please do see options including the Kia Rio, and 3-year-old VW, Kia, Hyundai models before settling on anything. There is world of difference in factors to consider both short-term and long-term when comparing any car against a Proton.
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I respect your opinion, but i wonder why does Malaysians have this perception, me as a foreigner(America) feel that Proton have some really good cars.


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QUOTE(Adjansi @ Sep 28 2016, 01:52 PM)
I respect your opinion, but i wonder why does  Malaysians have this perception, me as a foreigner(America)  feel that Proton have some really good cars.
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I don't. Being a family man having a lot of priorities and long experience with secondhand cars, I think the new Proton entry level sedans are very good bargain compared to all foreign cars of the same kind.
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QUOTE(bizness @ Sep 28 2016, 12:16 PM)
Thanks for all the input.

ericmaxman, heard of it. Everything in the Persona is improved.

mystvearn, already booked but the waiting time is too much. So reconsidering Preve Premium or wait for Persona.

Still in big dilemma.  rclxub.gif
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Persona= 3 years free service. This alone should be enough for consideration. The amount save here is quite a lot.
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QUOTE(Khai RULE @ Sep 28 2016, 11:19 AM)
the engine at sepang uses CFE engine block. It does not matter as long as VTEC got tah pau
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"We’ve just been informed that the Proton R3 Suprima S Touring Car draws 155 hp at 7,500 rpm and 185 Nm of torque at 4,000 rpm from a modified 1.6 litre IAFM engine (same setup as R3 Preve racer), and not 178 hp and 224 Nm from a CPS as previously stated." cili sos

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QUOTE(bizness @ Sep 28 2016, 12:14 AM)
Hi,

May I know which is a good buy between the Proton Preve (2016) and the new Proton Persona (2016)?

Is it a good choice to buy a Proton Preve now or they will be a new successor (new model or facelift) to it soon?

Comparing it's features and price. Is the Preve worth the money compared to the Persona?

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if you got budget,
go for suprima s instead of preve premium.


but if you ask me personally, preve or persona.
id say the new persona.


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If you have a budget of 75k, i suggest getting the bottom spec Honda City to get your money's worth or go for top spec Persona to save money.

 

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