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post Apr 24 2007, 01:35 PM

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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Apr 24 2007, 12:59 PM)
yay...vincC454 already giv u all the answer....i also type plamo building in youtube n then dl all the related video.....but i really dunno wat kind of tools they r using for scribe panel line....anyone can help pls or share wit me wat kind of tools can be use for scribe panel line??thx..... notworthy.gif
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post Apr 24 2007, 02:06 PM

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thx guys for ur input..really appreciate them...

i sayang my MG's, thats why kinda unsure on building them without deforming them..

i even deformed my those cheapo NG 1/144 just for the sake of experiment using markers, putty and even sanding them...

for me, AB out of my league as time is not on my side...i mean the time needed to learn to control the AB pen...also, budget wise for now, kinda empty...

i might consider the spray can + hand paint method...

oh, is there any guide for stripping enamel paints?

i found guide on stripping acrylics, but havent found for enamels coz from forums like wired-wolf and plamo-outhere, they use enamels for lining aka washing method..
i found this very handy rather than using markers...

just curious let say after ur kit is done, then say few months u wanna repaint them, is it possible to strip the topcoat and enamel paint?


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post Apr 24 2007, 03:00 PM

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I too got a question, when i wanna remove seam lines, must the simen b the regular one? cause the thin simen(which i have) dosen't seem to work very well....
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post Apr 24 2007, 03:21 PM

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QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Apr 24 2007, 02:06 PM)
thx guys for ur input..really appreciate them...

i sayang my MG's, thats why kinda unsure on building them without deforming them..

i even deformed my those cheapo NG 1/144 just for the sake of experiment using markers, putty and even sanding them...
Wow.. how u managed to deform lar? probly used too much force there I think...

QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Apr 24 2007, 02:06 PM)
for me, AB out of my league as time is not on my side...i mean the time needed to learn to control the AB pen...also, budget wise for now, kinda empty...
AB I guess will be the initial investment cost, a bit on the high side, but if u do these models regularly, then its a good investment lar...

controlling the AB pen isnt that difficult actually, as I had found out. The trick is to use a low PSI setting on the compressor, so that u get more control. And the paint has to be pretty dilute too.


QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Apr 24 2007, 02:06 PM)
i might consider the spray can + hand paint method...
Spray cans will be ok I guess for the base coats, but u'll need to proceed onto hand painting for the rest already

QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Apr 24 2007, 02:06 PM)
oh, is there any guide for stripping enamel paints?

i found guide on stripping acrylics, but havent found for enamels coz from forums like wired-wolf and plamo-outhere, they use enamels for lining aka washing method..
i found this very handy rather than using markers...

just curious let say after ur kit is done, then say few months u wanna repaint them, is it possible to strip the topcoat and enamel paint?
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Enamels, really hard to say lar.. I guess the only way to find out is to try the different types of thinners that u can get from those hardware shops. Since u got a few deformed NG ones, u can probly scrap one of those, and try differnet thinners on different parts and see. U'll need one that can strip the paint, but yet not melt the plastic.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 24 2007, 04:21 PM)
Enamels, really hard to say lar.. I guess the only way to find out is to try the different types of thinners that u can get from those hardware shops. Since u got a few deformed NG ones, u can probly scrap one of those, and try differnet thinners on different parts and see. U'll need one that can strip the paint, but yet not melt the plastic.


Dont ever try any thinner from hardware shop unless u are pretty sure those thinner are weak. I tried various thinner from hardware shop and I ended up turning my kits into goo. tongue.gif My best bet is to use the DOT3 brake oil for automobile. If i am not mistaken, it can strip acrylic, enamel and lacquer paint.
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post Apr 24 2007, 05:00 PM

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QUOTE(GrandElf @ Apr 24 2007, 12:59 PM)
yay...vincC454 already giv u all the answer....i also type plamo building in youtube n then dl all the related video.....but i really dunno wat kind of tools they r using for scribe panel line....anyone can help pls or share wit me wat kind of tools can be use for scribe panel line??thx..... notworthy.gif
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i just use the compass end only..those sharp ends..works fine for me so far..
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post Apr 24 2007, 08:27 PM

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I have build gunpla for many years ..experiment with Lining, weathering effect (using charcoal + clear paint) ... colour Certain parts, add Led to eyes.

But only recently i want to make a perfect gundam- Sanding + puttying + Airbrushing. .. But too bad.. kinda bz after workng n lazy.. sad.gif

Now im testing on my SD freedom.. I have finish puttying .. Sanding all d parts. Now waiting for Cleaning + airbrush.

But now i have a problem. D place where i just moved in is very DUsty.. example: after i wipe my black wooden table...after few hours/immediately u can see dust gathering on top already. So my question is.. How can i Avoid these dust from sticking to my just painted model? I don dare to start even washing it as i know if i din painted right away.. d dust will start gather on top again.. grrr.. any idea how to face this?
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 24 2007, 03:21 PM)
AB I guess will be the initial investment cost, a bit on the high side, but if u do these models regularly, then its a good investment lar...


as an initial investment, i agree..
the time i need to invest, that one quite tricky right now... biggrin.gif
might give it a go one day..
have to start a fund called "duke's AB fund".. laugh.gif

QUOTE(eehtsitna @ Apr 24 2007, 03:32 PM)
Dont ever try any thinner from hardware shop unless u are pretty sure those thinner are weak. I tried various thinner from hardware shop and I ended up turning my kits into goo. tongue.gif My best bet is to use the DOT3 brake oil for automobile. If i am not mistaken, it can strip acrylic, enamel and lacquer paint.
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thx for all the input...i've read in other forums that they also use brake oil for stripping paint, but most of them use acrylics for painting..
this is used on model cars as model cars have bigger space areas rather than gundam..
as for gundams, if not mistaken, they use Windex a.k.a Magiclean, which Magiclean, i dont know..

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But now i have a problem. D place where i just moved in is very DUsty.. example: after i wipe my black wooden table...after few hours/immediately u can see dust gathering on top already. So my question is.. How can i Avoid these dust from sticking to my just painted model? I don dare to start even washing it as i know if i din painted right away.. d dust will start gather on top again.. grrr.. any idea how to face this?


My NG 1/144 models got deformed by this..even at priming stage as i use tamiya fine primer spray can, and i spray it outdoor, so, living in a house where the main road is about 50-60m away from my house, this is a problem and i dont have a spray booth..

now i got a spray booth setup made from cardboard box, still in need of adjustments, i was thinking whether can a paint curing box be done?

its like spray booth in a way, u have a duct fan where to placing of the duct fan is totally up to u, but a paint curing box is fully closed, but u cut holes at the top of the booth if ur duct fan is mounted on the side, and other side walls as well but cover the holes with let say, fine cotton cloth or ur used car air filter(make sure not so dirty larr)...will this affect the paint that are currently drying or no need for duct fan at all?

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post Apr 24 2007, 09:03 PM

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QUOTE(VincC454 @ Apr 24 2007, 10:28 AM)
those master gundams most of the time never use lining markers..they use those enamel paint for the lining, but using this paint you need to make those line deep a bit with something sharp..like a compass sharp end..if you dont have those craft knife..

for those who just started gunpla..i do suggest that you just play around with just marker lining instead of jumping into painting straight..even how good your hand in painting on plain flat paper..painting a gundam is a different story already..you still can screw up ur expensive gundam.

painting a gundam till it looks so nice takes time..you need to practice and practice..then only you can get it right..not expect to have a great painting result on your first time building..

if you have no idea and first time building a gunpla..then forgot those sanding and puttying first..it can make your gundam worst later if in the middle process you dunno what else you wanna do or maybe you screw it already.

remember that sanding and putty means you need to color you gundam already as most of the time they leave stain and sratches.

for pre building your gundam and take it off all apart for painting..its better that you cut half all the male and female joint first..cause some parts, it just impossible to take it off back later on and maybe end up brake it. cut half the joint means you losen it and maybe you need to cement it before the final assembly..and this can skip the puttying process also.

for cutting those plastic from the runner..dont you playar please..hehe
if you can buy a gundam..im sure you can invest a bit more for the cutter..not saying to go ang get those rm80 tamiya cutter..the normal at hardware shop one will do good already.

i cannot think of any actual links or website that show how to build a gunpla from stage 1..i try to search before..and end up buying books about building gunpla last time..and its not cheap also..and somemore not in english

read and look the pictures only are not enough..whatever also you still need to trial and error with you gundams..lol

there is no easy way to learn something..hand on experience is the best..i screw almost 3 MG last time till i got it right..and my first HG last time i even pull the plastic with my bare hands from the runner..lol

try this link for gunpla building from some of the master gundams from japan
http://www.youtube.com/results?search_quer...g&search=Search

and finally..dont rush when building them..take your time and enjoy building it..no one rush you also right..lol
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I watch d 2part of d video.. There's one part im not clear with.. when he uses Mr Surfacer 1000... he add together with sm white liquid.. What is that white thing? is it white paint colour? I know surfacer should b d grey colour. rclxub.gif

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lol..maybe mr white base..

and dont think you have any solution if you living in a place where its very dusty..

unless you can dumb all of them in the glass cabinet or something

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post Apr 25 2007, 12:27 AM

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anybody knows if the Hi-Nu Gundam is coming out in HG? The MG is a piece of work, but too pricy for me to even consider sweat.gif
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post Apr 25 2007, 09:00 AM

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^ I'd say the chances might not be that high... It would do such injustice for a magnificent kit like the HiNu, and HGUC-fying it would cause the loss of great detail. The HGUC line is probably more focused on mechas which would have less chances of getting MG treatment, or re-releasing models which have been MG-fied for a long time (unless they are cult favourites like the Acguy and other Char's toys though)

But then again, who knows?

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SWWWWWEEEEEEETTTTTTTT !!!! But the Gelgoog's inner frame details are probably going to be covered up by the armor. sad.gif

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post Apr 25 2007, 09:08 AM

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QUOTE(young_soul @ Apr 25 2007, 12:27 AM)
anybody knows if the Hi-Nu Gundam is coming out in HG? The MG is a piece of work, but too pricy for me to even consider sweat.gif
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QUOTE(duke_hunt @ Apr 25 2007, 09:08 AM)
even the japs are selling it at high prices bro?
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Just buy it from Bro Edison. extremely reasonable price. I bought Hi Nu (7000yen) from him is equal to i brought Mg StrikeGundam (3500 yen?) from retail. thumbup.gif
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i wonder what's gonna be so special about gelgoog ver2. even with better internal frame its gonna be covered up with armor anyway. yeah, the gelgoog happens to be my least favourite monoeye suit
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post Apr 25 2007, 01:56 PM

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QUOTE(asuk @ Apr 25 2007, 01:26 PM)
i wonder what's gonna be so special about gelgoog ver2. even with better internal frame its gonna be covered up with armor anyway. yeah, the gelgoog happens to be my least favourite monoeye suit
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An invitation to DIY Ver.Ka? smile.gif

Hmm.. the PG Zakus r kinda the same too actually.
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QUOTE(fyire @ Apr 25 2007, 01:56 PM)
Hmm.. the PG Zakus r kinda the same too actually.
i daresay the MG zaku ver 2 has better details and flexibility than the PG version
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post Apr 25 2007, 02:58 PM

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QUOTE(Ah WanG @ Apr 25 2007, 02:16 PM)
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this one only change colour on the current oyw rx78-2 isit?
kind of lame le..

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QUOTE(phantasm0110 @ Apr 25 2007, 02:58 PM)
this one only change colour on the current oyw rx78-2 isit?
kind of lame le..
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That's why Bandai didn't give it a MG No.
because it's just a color variation to the current MG RX-78-2 OYW

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