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Selipo
post May 15 2010, 04:24 AM

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QUOTE(ssaturn @ May 14 2010, 01:07 AM)
Thanks smile.gif

I dunno how to feel the "powerful" also.. tongue.gif
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If u wear it, u feel safe, things go smoothly for u, u feel more lucky, then oklah..
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post May 23 2010, 11:18 PM

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QUOTE(xenxenxen @ May 18 2010, 01:10 AM)
Hi !

I need some help here..

Can any sifu help me identify this for me pretty please??
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Thanks.


Added on May 21, 2010, 9:55 amAnyone can help identify this ???
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Isn't this Ochi's amulet from Kedah?


Added on May 23, 2010, 11:26 pm
QUOTE(junshern222 @ May 23 2010, 09:43 PM)
hi Bro,i want to Ask,I have an amulet made of powder substances and I would like to make a cover for it and bring it everyday.So my question is which kind of casing you guys will recommend?transparent plastic?How much they usually cost?thanks.
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Hi Junshern,
I always prefer stainless stell casing for powder amulet. Doesn't matter the sweat seeping in, it's ok. Juz don't wear it to bath/swimming. Coz, I don't want to risk damaging the amulet when changing casing. For metal amulet, then I'll prefer waterproof plastic casing coz metal amulet will be damaged by sweat and there's no risk of damaging the amulet when changing a new plastic casing. Stalnless stell casing normally cost RM15-25 in Klang Valley area. Juz my opinion.

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Peter

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post May 29 2010, 03:41 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 26 2010, 04:42 PM)
u r right  rclxms.gif , show respect is the main purpose. But will these acts "power down" amulets?..confuse rclxub.gif
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Juz chipping in my opinion and what I know. For regular amulets (not those with spirits or barang), the power of the amulet is cemented forever if the monk who consecrated it pass on (died) while still upholding the Buddha's Teaching.
The basic principle that gives rise to so many Thai Buddhist amulets comes from a vow made by the Deva King. As the legend goes, the Deva King held high respect to the Lord Buddha for his virtue and teaching to all sentient beings. The Deva King thus vowed that whoever follows the teaching of the Master with diligence and faith will have their wishes granted and protected by the devas.
So, true monks (not just any guy in a yellow robe will do but those that diligently follow the Buddha’s teaching), having compassion for sentient beings, thus utilises this vow made by the Deva King and issue amulets, making wishes in the consecration ceremony that whoever wears the particular amulet will be free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc. So the power of regular amulets comes from the wishes made by the monks. If the monk pass on while still diligently practising the Buddha’s teaching, then the vow made by the Deva King will be unbroken forever and the power of the amulet is cemented forever.
That’s why, amulets made by acclaimed masters who have pass on such as AC Toh, LP Suk, LP Pan, LP Choong, LP Sud, LP Kong, and many more are so prized by devotees, coz the power of their amulets last forever as they have all passed on while still diligently practising the Lord Buddha’s teaching.
So logically/rationally speaking, will the power of amulets be lost if we go to toilet wearing it, walk under hanging cloths, go to the maternity ward, and all the taboos that we have been boggled with? Will the wish of the master making it and the vow of the Deva King be broken by such act? It is just out of our respect for this sacred object that we try our best to avoid such unclean act, nothing will harm the power of the amulet if u have understood where the power comes from..
For example, amulets by AC Toh are at least 138 years old, those by LP Suk, LP Pan, are over 80 years old, Phra Rod amulets from Wat Mahawan are over 1000 years old, Nangpaya amulets are 500 years old and many others old amulets, so many things unimaginable would have happened to these amulets in the course of their long history but why are devotees still willing to pay such a hefty amount to rent them? Think about it..it’s in understanding the source of the power, the vow is unbroken..
On the other hand, amulets made by living monks, who have broken their Buddhist practise in the course of their life will be lost without having u going to the toilet, walk under clothing, going to funeral, maternity ward and whatsoever cause the vow has been broken and the devas are in no obligation to grant the wishes of these disgraced monks/ex-monks..
There are another class of sacred objects/barang/spirits/amulets that derive their power from magical art and not from the vow of the Deva King. For these amulets, the power comes from magical incantation/practise and the power may be broken under certain circumstances as all magic can be broken. For example, spirits may leave the amulets, magical spell broken due to certain reason, etc.
So, in summary, for regular Buddhist amulets, it doesn’t matter what form/image it comes in, the power lies in what are the wishes made by the monks making them and if the monk truly practise the Buddha’s teaching till the end..
Hope that helps to clarify some part of the puzzle..

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post May 30 2010, 12:10 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 29 2010, 09:34 AM)
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thx, it clear some of my hiding doubts, think it is time to appreciate my father amulets collection, he started more than 30 yeras, should have some "tresures".. rclxm9.gif

since amulets is for good purpose such as free from harm, acquire wealth, loving kindness, authority, etc..other than it, if persons misuse it? will it still have power under such conditions?  rclxub.gif
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Good for u..Wish i could be there to sort out the "treasure" together with u. What do u mean by misuse? If u mean if the person is doing bad things, will the amulet still protect him?
That depends on his own karma..the amulet will not lose its power, juz that at the moment the person is doing bad thgs, the amulet may fail to protect him..but another good person wearing it later on will be protected..The fault is with the person not the amulet, the wish and the vow made is not broken.
If karma has ripen, then with the best amulet in the world also things cannot be changed. Amulets serve as a catalyst, to give us the additional boost to reach our goal or to protect us from unexpected danger..
Even the Buddha in his lifetime cannot stop his own city state from being destroyed by her enemy because the karma is as such..
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post Jun 1 2010, 12:53 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ May 30 2010, 10:41 AM)
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it is really enjoy to see your post, like a lighthouse in the mist...lol

Krama, i like this word.!!..i think Karma for those persons sell fake amulets must be relly big. My friend bought a Somlek Watlakang (sorry if wrong spell) with RM3000. which the seller told him worth RM30,000 in Thai.. shocking.gif. after veryflied by experts(??), it seem that...

wounder any simple & proper steps or methods to upkeep original true amulets? some says, let monks pray it....wash with flower + perfume+ water...ourself pray it as much as possible...  rclxub.gif

i will try to post some photos of this "treasure", you are most welcome to reveal it, my house is in Sg.Petani.

thx again, hope that can see more of this informative posts, it help a lot to me..
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Well, maybe the seller also dunno..coz old Somdej WRK very difficult to ID..We go on a "to the best of my knowledge" basis in dealing..Unless sciencetifically proven by carbon dating by drilling a small hole into the amulet..if the age of the material is abt 150 yrs +/-, then it should be consecrated by AC Toh himself..PM me yr phone number. Maybe we will drop by on our tour of Malaysia with Maha Chat..
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post Jun 4 2010, 05:54 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ Jun 1 2010, 09:37 AM)
Still remember sometime ago in Penang, verification of Somdej WRk with offer to exchange some luxury cars if original.......verifation fees is about RM80 per amulets, a lot of persons went there..i forget to follow up, dont know who got it.. tongue.gif

btw, may i know who is Maha Chat..?

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Nobody got it, it's a hoax..They are looking for Somdej WRK 1st batch, BE 2356, only 4 made and 3 and a half remaining only. 1 is in the hand of the Royal family, 1 in the hand of ex-PM Thaksin, one broken into half and juz one dunno where is it's whereabout..Do u think it's in Malaysia?
Maha Chat/Porthan Chat is the abbot of Wat Molelimit, Pattani. He is the youngest person to be appointed as abbot of a temple in Pattani at age 31 and he already qualified to the rank Maha at age 29 (BE2541) and Porthan at age 32 (BE2544). The good master is highly skilled in Dharma, magical art from Thai, Khmer and Muslim tradition. Amongst other his master is from Cambodia and he is also the disciple of LP Thong, Wat Sampaucher.
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post Jun 4 2010, 06:09 AM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 1 2010, 04:16 PM)
There are plenty of old amulets that are blessed by Somdej Toh of WRK fame. It just that some dealer purposely say it is fake to protect the value of the old WRK batch.

The best verification is by holding it and feel the power. Of course, not many people can have such ability. Another way is to break it into half and see the interior. Of course, hardly anyone does this method
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Hmm, feeling the power by holding is good for barang/phi (ghost) but regular amulet, i am not sure as advise by a high monk. I opine no such need to break the amulet in half for testing sciencetifically.. Juz drill a small dental hole to get a sample of the material will be good enough for carbon testing of the age..it's too devastating/unnecesary to break such a valuable amulet for testing (if genuine). No owner would be willing to take such risk/devastation..
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post Jun 5 2010, 05:18 AM

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QUOTE(nagalaksa @ Jun 4 2010, 01:27 PM)
shocking.gif ..a hoax..those examine fees RM80/ amulets is a fortune for tham already..lol...the day i went, persons need to take number & line up for their amulets to be examined...

"....Do u think it's in Malaysia?" - sometimes i doubts about this, why genuine & best amulets can out of their originate country - Thailand? experts & devotees are a lot lot there, will they let it go..? so i dont think here have this most precious amulets - Somdej WRK 1st batch.Correct me if my thounght is wrong.

Great to know Maha Chat,really like to mee with this master on one fine day.By the way, do you know one monk stays in cave, Langkawi island? seem quit popular among certain peoples.
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Well bro..use yr wisdom and think abt it..I don't want to comment any further..1 in Royal family's hand, 1 with Thaksin, another 1 complete piece is in the muzeum, so only half a piece left, where is it? Can exchange BMW with half a piece if it is in Malaysia? Yr guess and opinion lah..

Hopefully bro, one day we can meet up with Maha Chat together..The Langkawi master in cave, I don't know him..maybe u can tell me his background..I am only familiar with great masters from Thailand..


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post Jun 5 2010, 05:58 AM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 4 2010, 10:21 PM)
Amulet that has been bless will have power. Those that are mass chanting power are stronger. Fake one will have none. I agree that it is not necessary to break or drill for samples just to verify.

As for young abbot, I do not have how they are qualified at such young age. Recently, I read that there is one 30++ years old abbot in Thailand have been disrobed and sent to jail for directing his assistant to kill his ex gf's lover.
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Well..well..To help "enlighten”, at what age did the Buddha achieve enlightenment? 36, is it too young to be a Buddha?
With knowledge in the Buddhist teaching, the achievement of different individual differs even though they are at the same age in this lifetime because of their karma in previous life!
The 500 Bikkhus in Buddha’s time all achived at least the first stage of Arahanthood (Sotapanna) in their present lifetime..The 5 Lersi who used to be Buddha’s master during his cultivation all achieved enlightenment upon listening to the Budddha’s first sermon at an instance..How could this be/happen? Their cultivation in previous life has ripened for enlightenment in their present lifetime..
There are people of the same age who are billionaire while some struggle to survive?
Why?
Have u grasp the Dhammic truth by now? Look not at the surface but the inner/absolute Dharmmic truth..Have u understand not by now?
Sadhux3 for the Buddha, Dhamma and Sangha..


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post Jun 15 2010, 04:03 AM

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QUOTE(eLL_lAzyPiG @ Jun 6 2010, 01:10 AM)
i have this pendant since im a kid.its my auntie who gave it to me.
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back
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front
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someone can identify it?
I just know the back is the sleeping buddha but for what purpose?
and the front I'm not sure if it's Gautama Buddha
there's a number 2541..
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The front figure with lotus is LP Thuad, back sleeping Buddha. No. 2541 may be the year of manufacture, 12 years ago..This amulet is for protection, peace, metta and good luck, FYI.
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post Jun 15 2010, 04:07 AM

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QUOTE(cuebiz @ Jun 3 2010, 09:58 PM)
Most expensive amulet are very old. Since most fake will want to replicate the original, they use poor material and coat the outer layer and make it like aged amulet.
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Hmm, for experience collector it's not difficult to id, from the material and crack at the side plus inner material visible from the crack if they r over 100 years old..
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post Jun 20 2010, 10:04 PM

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QUOTE(saintsoul @ Jun 15 2010, 05:42 PM)
Can anyone here help me indentify below pendant?I have no idea from which temple and name.
Thanks in advance.

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This is a Jatukam Ramathep amulet, made in BE2550, Wat Phra Mahathat, Nakhon ST, but have forgotten the roon/batch name.
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post Aug 9 2010, 05:41 AM

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QUOTE(jasontonglee @ Jul 20 2010, 07:12 PM)
hi bros I wanna ask,lets say I have a butterfly king amulet,where can I have the katha ? Are all the butterfly king amulets apply the same katha?can someone let me know where can I find the katha,and how can I chant? Please help me Tq
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U can try this;
Yeram Yesirem Yeram,
Sri Ram Yeram,
Yeh Yeh Ram Krishna,
Haray Krishna,
Namapatha.

Hope that helps..

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post Aug 22 2010, 05:08 PM

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QUOTE(nghoongen @ Aug 16 2010, 12:22 AM)
hello all the bros here. i have a lersi amulet but what is the amulet's power? i mean what is the amulet for?
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Lersi is useful for protection frm harm and danger, dispelling evil, promoting business and career luck.
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post Aug 31 2010, 06:00 AM

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QUOTE(D-Tourist @ Aug 27 2010, 11:23 PM)
Just curious... anyone know how is the ranking of monks in thailand...? notice some are called Phra / Phra Maha / Porthan / LP  etc.... how to differentiate? I understand that some level requires some sort of further studies.. and some confered by the king. Perhaps someone can clarify or provide any link to such info
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Hi,
Juz sharing whatever knowledge I know..
Any monk can be called Phra, Phra=monk.
Any monk passing at least level 3 out of the 9 levels of the Pali language test can called himself Maha.
If a monk passed all 9 levels of the Pali test continuously w/o fail/resit, then he can be conferred the title of Somdej.
Phra=monk and ku=guru..So Phraku means guru of monks. There are official level Phraku/Royal Phraku where he has qualified academically and upon recommendation and much contribution, he can be conferred the title of Phraku by recommendation from by a higher level monk (like the Chao Khun of his area) to be conferred the title of Phraku by the Sangha council.
Another type of Phraku is addressed as such out of respect by devotees..but this type of Phraku is lower in rank than the official Phraku.
An official level Phraku has many levels also which he gradually progressed out of his contribution and recommended promotion.
Porthan is an address used on monks in Southern Thailand. Technically, a monk can be addressed as Porthan if he is an abbot of a temple and has served in good standing in the Sangha for a considerable period of time. However, since this is not an official title, senior monks who is well respected, has served with good standing in the Sangha for a long period of time may also be referred to as Porthan but some monks may not like to be addressed as Porthan and may preferred to be address as Maha if he is qualified academically, Luang Phor or Luang Pu.
Luang Phor means father and Luang Pu means grandfather (old monks is addressed as such) and this title/address does not require any official requirement, juz out of the respect to the monk by devotee but generally the monks should have served in good standing for a substantial amount of years in the Sangha. On a stricter note, only monks who were ordained unmarried and without children can be addressed as Luang Phor or Luang Pu, else they would only be addressed as Phor Luang. Again, since this is not an official title, some highly respected monks are still addressed as Luang Phor or Luang Pu eventhough they were ordained after having been in a marriage previously.
We can generally address any monk as Archan (teacher).
I hope my little explanation helps, FYI.

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post Sep 15 2010, 06:25 AM

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QUOTE(eg_9525 @ Sep 11 2010, 06:54 PM)
sifus & gurus...

got this 2 amulets for more than 20 year.. can anybody advice me on the history and id for this amulets rclxub.gif ?

amulet 1
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amulet 2
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thank you thank you... and happy holiday....

karp khoon karp.... thumbup.gif  brows.gif


Added on September 12, 2010, 6:06 pmany advice or info?
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Hi,
Not a sifu here but if I am not mistaken, the first one is AC Fun amulet from Isan, NE Thailand and the second one is LP King, Wat Talongtong, Nakhon Si Thammarat.
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post Oct 10 2010, 09:11 AM

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QUOTE(D-Tourist @ Sep 25 2010, 11:40 PM)
thank... kobkhunkap...smile.gif
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U r welcome bro..Juz sharing another info..If a person is ordained as a monk b4 he gets married/have kids, then as he gets older above 40, u can call him Luang Phor..If a person is ordained after he has a family (married/have kids), then he can only be addressed as Po Luang by the correct definition..In the monk circle, it is a pride to be ordained b4 getting married and a married person ordained will not be accorded the same respect from the devotees/monks circle..Hope u find this interesting..Chok dee and chop lap to all bros/sis out there..Mung Mi Si Suk..
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:52 AM

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ha.ha..ha..they got 6 body guard with machine gun guarding..if u have the gun to rob, will u rob amulets? Better go for goldsmith/bank tat has only one guard and it's much easier to let go of the robbed stuff..it's juz a show man..a rational person will prefer bank/goldsmith, will u not? It's not that easy to bluff educated ppl like us..Pitda Tok Raja or Somdej WRK, how many pieces u want..We can state any price but will ppl buy it? Tat's the main question.."Lao qian" lah tis show..we r not stupid..
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post Oct 11 2010, 06:56 AM

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U want Chua Soi Lek (Chairman of MCA and minister) to attend or not? MCA members with the dough can get him to attend..That's political insider info..
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post Nov 15 2010, 02:56 AM

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It's funny with the type of amulet we in MY and Sg like..In Thai, they dun go for tis sort of amulet..But that's our belief and I respect that..


Added on November 15, 2010, 3:04 am[quote=skon9,Oct 21 2010, 01:59 AM]Anyone know where to get this kind of tattoo charm(especially in northern state, penang or kedah)  and what is it call actually?


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