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Sony RX100 mk2 or Canon G7x mk2 or others?, Sifu opinion needed
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TSshinchan99
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Sep 19 2016, 10:22 AM, updated 10y ago
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Hi sifus,
I'm newbie in photography.. Just know how to press the snap picture button on camera.. Totally zero knowledge on settings.. Will leave my camera to fully auto mode..
Hence, which should be a better choice for me? RX100mk2 or G7x mk2 ?
Generally will be using this camera for vacation use.. Need to flip over the screen so can take selfie is a must.. that's the only few criteria i am looking into right now.. If can no need to turn the knob on the camera lense to get a sharp shoot..
Can sifu please advise?
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DaddyO
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Sep 19 2016, 10:33 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:22 AM) Hi sifus, I'm newbie in photography.. Just know how to press the snap picture button on camera.. Totally zero knowledge on settings.. Will leave my camera to fully auto mode.. Hence, which should be a better choice for me? RX100mk2 or G7x mk2 ? Generally will be using this camera for vacation use.. Need to flip over the screen so can take selfie is a must.. that's the only few criteria i am looking into right now.. If can no need to turn the knob on the camera lense to get a sharp shoot.. Can sifu please advise? Both camera are capable. Only thing is u prefer touchscreen (G7xmkii) or evf (rx100mkiii)? Though not sure why u put rx100mkii in your choice since it is older model and doesnt even have touchscreen unless cause its cheaper.
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TSshinchan99
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Sep 19 2016, 10:47 AM
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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Sep 19 2016, 10:33 AM) Both camera are capable. Only thing is u prefer touchscreen (G7xmkii) or evf (rx100mkiii)? Though not sure why u put rx100mkii in your choice since it is older model and doesnt even have touchscreen unless cause its cheaper. Hi Sifu, yes due to budget issue have to settle down with mk2 .. I guess getting g7 mk2 will be a wiser choice, considering it's the latest model ? Both the model mention have screen that can flip up and take selfie correct ?
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briancfk
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Sep 19 2016, 10:50 AM
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Photo wise, both is able to produce nice and sharp photo.
I got experience on rx100mk2 If you plan to use it to record video as well, I can tell rx100mk2 can produce very smooth focusing. But I am not sure about the G7x mk2 of the video, you can just go to the shop to test it out.
The way I test of the video is, two object one is front and one is far back, point the camera to the front object, see how fast it can focus Then point it to the back object, check how smooth of the camera can change focus from the front object to back object and the speed also. Then point back to the front object The result must not jerking and hard to focus
If you do not do video, just pick one that you feel good will do.
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DaddyO
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Sep 19 2016, 10:59 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:47 AM) Hi Sifu, yes due to budget issue have to settle down with mk2 .. I guess getting g7 mk2 will be a wiser choice, considering it's the latest model ? Both the model mention have screen that can flip up and take selfie correct ? Then go for g7. Touchscreen itself is very handy. Never understood why sony never put touchscreen in any of their compacts. This is 2016, danggit.
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TSshinchan99
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Sep 19 2016, 12:13 PM
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Any other camera's worth to mention beside these 2 models?
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HaN18
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Sep 19 2016, 02:57 PM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Sep 19 2016, 10:22 AM) Hi sifus, I'm newbie in photography.. Just know how to press the snap picture button on camera.. Totally zero knowledge on settings.. Will leave my camera to fully auto mode.. Hence, which should be a better choice for me? RX100mk2 or G7x mk2 ? Generally will be using this camera for vacation use.. Need to flip over the screen so can take selfie is a must.. that's the only few criteria i am looking into right now.. If can no need to turn the knob on the camera lense to get a sharp shoot.. Can sifu please advise? fujifilm X70
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kelvinling
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Sep 19 2016, 03:33 PM
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QUOTE(HaN18 @ Sep 19 2016, 02:57 PM) fujifilm X70  Difference by around 600 le.
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HaN18
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Sep 19 2016, 03:41 PM
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QUOTE(kelvinling @ Sep 19 2016, 03:33 PM) Difference by around 600 le. RM600 for better picture , why not? Hahaha any enquiry pls ask kelvin taikor
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TSshinchan99
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Sep 19 2016, 04:19 PM
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Already book 1 unit G7X MK2 from Kelvin boss Michael here..
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kelvinling
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Sep 19 2016, 05:53 PM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Sep 19 2016, 04:19 PM) Already book 1 unit G7X MK2 from Kelvin boss Michael here.. Oh Hi Michael! So nice to bump into you here haha 😁
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ya77
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Oct 2 2016, 02:45 AM
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michael, you already got your g7x mark 2?
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TSshinchan99
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Oct 2 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ya77 @ Oct 2 2016, 02:45 AM) michael, you already got your g7x mark 2? Yes I did bro
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ya77
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Oct 3 2016, 12:34 AM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Oct 2 2016, 12:17 PM) Yes I did bro  NICE! i am really satisfied with that camera, but when i take group selfie, only the person who held the camerawill get sharp image, others behind him a bit will blur and out of focus. Do you know any forum to discuss about this camera?
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DaddyO
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Oct 3 2016, 12:17 PM
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QUOTE(ya77 @ Oct 3 2016, 12:34 AM) NICE! i am really satisfied with that camera, but when i take group selfie, only the person who held the camerawill get sharp image, others behind him a bit will blur and out of focus. Do you know any forum to discuss about this camera? Group selfie at close range prefer just use smartphone. There is a technical reason behind i.e. sensor size affect depth of field but too lazy to explain.
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sitescope
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Oct 3 2016, 01:54 PM
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QUOTE(ya77 @ Oct 3 2016, 12:34 AM) NICE! i am really satisfied with that camera, but when i take group selfie, only the person who held the camerawill get sharp image, others behind him a bit will blur and out of focus. Do you know any forum to discuss about this camera? Coz front hp camera is using fix focus... So front n all the way back is sharp. Ur camera using variable focal length so u need to understand DOF
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DaddyO
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Oct 3 2016, 04:16 PM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 3 2016, 01:54 PM) Coz front hp camera is using fix focus... So front n all the way back is sharp. Ur camera using variable focal length so u need to understand DOF Ummmmm......coz phone camera has smaller sensor thus "equivalent" dof is huge i.e. front to back will be in focus. Not "fix focus".....actually what is fix focus?????
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goldfries
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Oct 3 2016, 04:26 PM
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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Oct 3 2016, 04:16 PM) Ummmmm......coz phone camera has smaller sensor thus "equivalent" dof is huge i.e. front to back will be in focus. Not "fix focus".....actually what is fix focus????? Non-zoom aka Prime.  Which is not the reason why handphone pics are in focus.
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goldfries
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Oct 3 2016, 04:28 PM
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QUOTE(sitescope @ Oct 3 2016, 01:54 PM) Coz front hp camera is using fix focus... So front n all the way back is sharp. Ur camera using variable focal length so u need to understand DOF Incorrect. You can use fixed focal length lenses and it will be the same, focusing will still be off. The correct reason is as explained by DaddyO. His camera's aperture is very wide, on handphone they may say f/2.8 but when you factor in sensor size and all the DOF comes to about that of an f/8 - f/11 range. As for wefie photos, usually people raise it up high so that focal plane alone helps keeping the DOF area covering most faces.
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DaddyO
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Oct 3 2016, 04:29 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 3 2016, 04:26 PM) Non-zoom aka Prime.  Which is not the reason why handphone pics are in focus. That is fixed focal. Not fixed focus lah.
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DaddyO
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Oct 3 2016, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(goldfries @ Oct 3 2016, 04:28 PM) As for wefie photos, usually people raise it up high so that focal plane alone helps keeping the DOF area covering most faces. And thats where problem with using big sensor on wefie comes in. To get everything in focus, u need very small aperture which in turn very low shutter which may cause motion blur. Using small sensor but big aperture helps negate the low shutter while maintain large dof.
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goldfries
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Oct 3 2016, 05:08 PM
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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Oct 3 2016, 04:29 PM) That is fixed focal. Not fixed focus lah.  Yes, as mentioned in my follow up post. It's fixed focal length. If fixed focus no need to use already.
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sitescope
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Oct 3 2016, 06:39 PM
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QUOTE(DaddyO @ Oct 3 2016, 04:16 PM) Ummmmm......coz phone camera has smaller sensor thus "equivalent" dof is huge i.e. front to back will be in focus. Not "fix focus".....actually what is fix focus????? Ooo i see... Fix focal... Kekeke
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ya77
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Oct 3 2016, 07:28 PM
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HAHA thanks guys. very informative and helpful. I am not good at manual setting thats why i bought this camera. Thank you.
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Jimsee
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Oct 4 2016, 11:40 AM
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QUOTE(ya77 @ Oct 3 2016, 07:28 PM) HAHA thanks guys. very informative and helpful. I am not good at manual setting thats why i bought this camera. Thank you. I use mostly program mode. Most photos turn out good.
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ya77
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Oct 4 2016, 11:06 PM
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Ok thanks bro!
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TSshinchan99
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Oct 4 2016, 11:12 PM
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I haven't got chance to use yet. Going to use it for my upcoming trip to Perth on Nov..
So any tips tricks to snap good photos sifu?
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DaddyO
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Oct 4 2016, 11:44 PM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Oct 4 2016, 11:12 PM) I haven't got chance to use yet. Going to use it for my upcoming trip to Perth on Nov.. So any tips tricks to snap good photos sifu? Go to flickr or 500px site, type in Perth in search bar, see examples of some of the good tour shot and try copy that. Of course not do it 100% but just get the feel of what photo you can take and perhaps add in your own flavour. This post has been edited by DaddyO: Oct 4 2016, 11:44 PM
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leongsem
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Nov 23 2016, 09:06 AM
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I saw G7X mark II features 16. USB CHARGING This is another nice feature of the G7X mkII, which is easily overlooked. It will now be possible to charge the battery with an USB cable, instead of having to resort to the dedicated external battery charger.
it mean that old g7X cannot charge using USB cable? so I do not need extra battery if I purchase mark II?
Thank you in advance......
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TSshinchan99
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Nov 23 2016, 10:48 AM
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I'm not sure the old G7X can use USB to charge, but the G7X mark2 definitely can use USB to charge from power source to powerbank etc..
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TSshinchan99
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Nov 23 2016, 12:05 PM
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On the sidenotes sifu photographies..
1. If i want to take a shot at a dark place.. What should i adjust to capture the best image without using flash? Do I adjust the FS ? Or i dont know what is it called on top of the button that has -1 , -2 , -3 , 0 , +1 , +2 , +3
2. Sometimes I just want to capture the whole image without any blurred backdrop.. This happen each time i use Macro shot, whereby the camera will focus only on the object and blurred the backdrop.. Say if i want to cancel this function, what should i use? I tried AF and manual but sometimes it happens too, especially when i press and hold the snap picture button.. Should i press only and dont hold ? Even sometimes holding less than 1 second makes the backdrop a bit blur..
Sorry ya very noob in photography and camera..
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CanonLee
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Nov 23 2016, 04:40 PM
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QUOTE(shinchan99 @ Nov 23 2016, 12:05 PM) On the sidenotes sifu photographies.. 1. If i want to take a shot at a dark place.. What should i adjust to capture the best image without using flash? Do I adjust the FS ? Or i dont know what is it called on top of the button that has -1 , -2 , -3 , 0 , +1 , +2 , +3 2. Sometimes I just want to capture the whole image without any blurred backdrop.. This happen each time i use Macro shot, whereby the camera will focus only on the object and blurred the backdrop.. Say if i want to cancel this function, what should i use? I tried AF and manual but sometimes it happens too, especially when i press and hold the snap picture button.. Should i press only and dont hold ? Even sometimes holding less than 1 second makes the backdrop a bit blur.. Sorry ya very noob in photography and camera.. try using A mode and set your aperture to bigger value (example from F2.2 to F9.0) hope it helps
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