Hi guys, I wonder if all the courses in TAR College are recognized by JPA? Help me out. Thanx.

tarc is condesidered as IPTA actually.... so i think they are recognized by jpa... tatz y we can hv stpm here...

I'm TAR College student.
TarC is considers IPTA and it only certain course recognize by JPA and some of them is recognize by BC.

This post has been edited by WingKalimdor: Jan 30 2007, 08:18 AM

If you all check carefully the TAR's staff website.You could see lots of academic inbreeding happenings there.

http://www.tarc.edu.my/staff/staff_st.htm

1st example: ex-TARCians with Campbell qualifications becoming lecturers to support and teach Campbell degree programs.

2nd example: head of microelectronics,extra-mural and Perak campus branch head, all have one thing in common: Phd(Exe). What a nice coincidences!!

So if this is not a case of money buying PhDs through long-distance programme, then I don't know what else is.

As usual, TARC for being closely associated with political party MCA, the Malaysian Government, of course, will close both eyes!!!

Good luck to those going to TARC, choose your courses carefully!!!

This post has been edited by Gamgee: Jan 30 2007, 09:03 AM

I am ex- Tarcian here !! can confirm TARC is IPTA ??

I thought TARC is IPTS when apply for PTPTN a few years back. Confused

I always told my friends I m studying in a private college. That means I m lieing all these years I should told that I m studying in a public college.

-IPTS is Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Swasta like Lim Kok Wing, Sunway that charge in very high fee.

Fee around 2-3k per month

-IPTA is Institusi Pengajian Tinggi Awam that is half supported by goverment like Tunku Abdul Rahman College , Kolej Yayasan Selangor , and etc.

If you are ex-Tarcian you should know that out fee per semester is around 1k+ except semester 3 and 6

This post has been edited by WingKalimdor: Jan 30 2007, 01:17 PM

Ok, thanks

TARC where got recognised by JPA.....

TARC is Not a IPTA. It's an IPTS. It's not funded by the government. It's privately owned by MCA, a political component party.

Only IPTS programmes that are accredited by LAN are recognised by JPA. Currently, level of accreditation is only at about 30% of approved courses being run at existing active IPTSs.

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Added on January 30, 2007, 7:15 pmFees charged is NEVER an indication of whether a higher learning institution is IPTA or IPTS. Fees can be low if they are sponsored or funded.

IPTA fees are low because they are funded by the government. TARC fees are low because MCA (NOT the government, but a political component party) doesn't want to make a lot of money but want to introduce affordable programmes for the chinese.

For a list of IPTAs, just visit the ministry of higher education website: http://www.mohe.gov.my/info_kpt_senarai.ph...&subcode=SUB001
There are 19 IPTAs (excluding community colleges).

TARC and UTAR are listed among 553 IPTS in the country. Check this out: http://www.phed.gov.my/Services/Search_Ins...&subcode=SUB002

Am surprised at the low level of research abilities of TAR graduates and awareness of what constitute and IPTA/ IPTS. *sigh*




This post has been edited by Teong: Jan 30 2007, 07:15 PM

from wat i heard, tarc is IPTA. so the courses here don need accreditation from LAN. LAN is only for IPTS right?

TARC is an IPTS. To be recognised by JPA, the diplomas (at TARC) and degrees (at UTAR) must be accredited by LAN.

Surprise...surprise!! not many programmes at TARC or UTAR is accredited. They only have approval of minimum standard. This means that they are not recognised by JPA.

Only 199 of 533 IPTS have courses that are accredited by LAN. AND TARC is NOT one of them (however, UTAR is).

Check out this link for list of courses at accredited by LAN: http://www.lan.gov.my/english/index2eng.htm

Another surprise is that UTAR only has 11 courses accredited (including 1 at their Setapak campus) out of the over 50 degree programmes on offer. That's less than 20% accredited and hence recognised by JPA.

Just check out www.utar.edu.my and roam under academic> faculty.
Look for the LAN codes. A = accredited; KA = not accredited but had been submitted for approval; KN = submitted just for approval. The last few digits are the date when the course approval expires 5/07 means expiry in may 2007.

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Added on January 30, 2007, 7:36 pmJust check out the LAN website www.lan.gov.my and Ministry website www.mohe.gov.my.

It's 100% confirmed that TARC and UTAR are NOT IPTAs. They need accreditation and approval from LAN and the Ministry. That's why when you check the UTAR website or TAR website, they include the JPS and LAN codes.

I've copied and attached a sample here from utar website:

Courses Offered
Bachelor of Arts (Hons) Graphic Design and Multimedia
KP/JPS(KA7217) 7/11

Bachelor of Arts (Hons) Chinese Studies
KP/JPS(KN3339) 5/07

Bachelor of Arts (Hons) English Language
KP/JPS(KA5857) 2/10

Let me teach you how to read these codes:
KP = Kementerian Pengajian Tinggi
JPS = Jabatan Pendidikan Swasta (which means UTAR is IPTS = "swasta")
KA number = submitted for accreditation but NOT YET received accreditation
2/10 = approval expires in february 2010.

Sorry to tell you, my friend. What you heard is wrong.

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Added on January 30, 2007, 7:38 pmAnother indication of whether an institution is an IPTS or IPTA is the mode of application.

For entry into IPTA: you need to fill-in the "UPU form" and get it processed by BPKP.

For IPTS, you just call and the marketing people will enroll you.

This post has been edited by Teong: Jan 30 2007, 07:38 PM

all education courses have to be accredited by LAN, regardless of IPT status. new courses must get recognition and accreditation from LAN, and courses that have already obtained accreditation MUST be reaccredited every 5 years. it's technically hard to fall out of accreditation if the IPT maintains the level of standard they used during the first accreditation, but these things do happen.

lol, thx pals.. gotta move my @rse from here ASAP

wait wait wait
I took my a-level in TARC without doing LAN studies, that's 100% true. This is getting confusing

But what see from TARC website is that they claims that the College is 50% subsidised by the Government for all its recurrent and capital expenditure. please check from this link.

http://www.tarc.edu.my/about/abt_overview.htm

And if i am not mistaken, PTPTN will not give loan to students which are not recognixe by the goverment that's why ADvance Diploma students in TARC are not eligible to apply PTPTN. Correct me if I am wrong I am only assuming.

This post has been edited by soyasos: Jan 30 2007, 11:39 PM

I ady knew TARC n UTAR cant get those accreditation by JPA....there are some politics involved why both IPTS (only today i knew TARC is IPTS though im studying there now...)...but when u ask the mgmt why we cant get the accreditation after so long....no satisfactory ans given....

Now Tarc is combination between MCA and goverment.It mean can be both IPTA and IPTS(not very sure because principle of TARC and president of MCA say that TARC is IPTA).Regarding the LAN it didn't apply on diploma level and it only apply in advanced above.

This is not a coincidences. They all enrolled the PhD course at the same time and money buying PhD doesn't need 4-6 years to obtain the qualification. BTW, this is not a long-distance programme as they need to travel to UK to see their supervisor.

Becareful (or be responsible) with the stuffs you typed. Maybe you can say whatever you like for Diploma, Adv Diploma, Bachelor's Degree or to some extent, Master's Degree but not PhD, show some respect will'ya? Oh ya, do you know what does PhD(Exe) means at the first place?

This post has been edited by kimhoong: Jan 31 2007, 11:17 AM

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