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waja2000
post Sep 27 2016, 04:58 PM

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QUOTE(azriel @ Sep 27 2016, 09:28 AM)
They need 6 months just to construct the block part of the upper hull from that section alone since keel laying in March 2016. How long would it take to complete the whole ship?

I'm referring to the block part from the recent progress pic from RMN FB.

^^ But i see  a glimpse of maybe another module on the far right of the pic.
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i believe other module still in construction not yet join together.
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post Sep 27 2016, 05:06 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 27 2016, 02:33 PM)
Quote from article, the bolded part is the most worrisome. We may not see the first Gowind actually active until 2020! and what about the rest of the class? at 36 months a ship by the time we launch the last Gowind we might be ready to start building its replacement! at that build rate it would most definitely be cheaper to buy our ships from anybody!
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according preview news report, BNS will launch each LCS ship every 6 month after 1 ship launching (just hope so). so all ship will will finish construction n 2020,
all ship after launch, will continue assembly of the component, module , system, missile take about 1 year each ship. sea trail for 4-6 month。

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post Sep 27 2016, 05:37 PM

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Looks like the Phillipines is primed for another military coup to remove Duterte.
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post Sep 27 2016, 05:42 PM

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PT PAL Indonesia Builds Second Strategic Sea Lift Vessel For Philippines

Our Bureau09:32 AM, September 27, 2016

PT PAL Indonesia (Persero) has completed the construction of the second strategic sea lift vessel (SSV) ordered by the Philippines.

The ship is expected to be rolled out from its yard in Tanjung Perak, Surabaya, East Java, on September 29, Antara News reported.

The second SSV has been readied three or four months faster than the first one which had taken two years to finish, The company president director, M. Firmansyah Arifin said Saturday.

The first sophisticated ship built by the Indonesia was under the category of Lloyd Register class, and was launched on January 18, 2016. It has been named Tarlac by the Philippine government.

"Tarlac was the first warship that Indonesia exported and was part of the development of landing platform dock (LPD) designed with a length of 123 meters, a width of 21.8 meters and was capable of a speed of 16 knots. It can sail for 30 days in high seas," he elaborated. PT PAL applied the one day one block principle, and the strategy helped finish the ship building project faster, the project leader Turitan Indaryo said. "This means, every day there were blocks idenitified to be finished. So, those were completed ahead of the schedule," Turitan, current director of planning and business development, explained.

The Philippines has ordered two units of SSV-type LPD, complete with weapons for self-defense. The SSV comes complete with three helipads and a hangar and is capable of carrying two units of landing craft utility ships plus various kinds of combat vehicles, ranging from military trucks to amphibious assault vehicles.
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post Sep 27 2016, 05:49 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Sep 27 2016, 05:06 PM)
according preview news report, BNS will launch each LCS ship every 6 month after 1 ship launching (just hope so). so all ship will will finish construction n 2020,
all ship after launch, will continue assembly of the component, module , system, missile take about 1 year each ship. sea trail for 4-6 month。
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If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

Best case.

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Looks like the Phillipines is primed for another military coup to remove Duterte.
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post Sep 27 2016, 06:02 PM

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BELL MADE A TILTROTOR DRONE WITH MISSILES FOR MARINES

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Runways are a hassle. Long, flat strips of unobstructed land are work to defend at the best of times, and can’t always be found in rugged terrain or on small islands. Yet having a fixed-wing plane fly air support is useful, because plane bodies are faster and much more efficient than helicopters. What’s the Marine Corps to do?

If you ask Bell Helicopter, the answer is obvious: a brand-new tiltrotor drone, unveiled today before a crowd of media and experts at that National Press Club in Washington, DC.

This is the V-247 Vigilant. The drone has a maximum speed of 345 mph, though it cruises most efficiently at 205 mph. It can fly at an altitude of up to 25,000 feet, can carry up to 2,000 pounds internally, and has a maximum flight time of 17 hours or a maximum range of 1,600 statute miles (though it can’t do all of this simultaneously). Bell provides an example mission of one where it carries a 600-pound payload to a target 500 miles away, hangs around for several hours, and then returns. And “target” here is key: the Vigilant isn’t just a scout. As designed, it can fire missiles, including Hellfires and its expected replacement, the Joint Air Ground Missile. It can also carry Mk50 torpedoes, making it deadly to enemies in the sea, as well as on land.

The Vigilant weighs 16,000 pounds empty, 29,500 pounds filled to the brim with something slung beneath it, and it has a wingspan of 65 feet with a 30-foot rotor diameter. Two V-247 Vigilants can fit inside a C-17 Globemaster transport, helping them get to where they’re needed. That makes the Vigilant about half the size of the troop-carrying V-22 Osprey tiltrotor, which is small for a plane but still a Group 5 drone for the military, which includes the heaviest and fastest drones.

Bell says it can start producing the V-247 as early 2023, and designed it to meet the needs of the Marine Corps. If the Corps bites, and if the Vigilant works as promised, by the end of the next decade Marines could fly into battle inside tiltrotor V-22s and request air support from tiltrotor V-247 drones, while at the same time soldiers from the Army arrive in Bell’s planned V-280 Valor transport.

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post Sep 27 2016, 06:06 PM

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China wants to build a US-style aircraft carrier

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Right now, China’s aircraft carrier uses a ski-jump design, where planes hit a ramp to launch of the ship. This greatly limits the maximum weight of the planes, meaning they can’t carry as much fuel or ordnance as land-launched variants can.
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China has set out to develop a Catapult-Assisted Take-Off But Arrested Recovery (CATOBAR) variant of the Shenyang J-15 Flying Shark.
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But now photos surfaced in Yeo’s piece suggest that China is trying to imitate these flat top carriers. Here’s a photo of a J-15 with additional nose landing gear (this is what the catapult couples with during launches).


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post Sep 27 2016, 06:12 PM

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Larsen and Toubro signs $99 million Vietnamese ship deal

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MUMBAI, Sept. 23 (UPI) -- Larsen and Toubro has signed a $99 million contract with the Vietnam Border Guard for high speed patrol vessels, the Indian company announced Thursday.

The contract calls for design and construction of the vessels, as well as transfer of design and technology, equipment and material kits for construction of follow-on vessels at a Vietnamese shipyard, the company said in a statement.

The vessels are for controlling and protecting sea security and sovereignty, anti-smuggling and search and rescue missions.

The 114-foot-long vessels are made of an aluminum alloy and reach speeds of 35 knots.

In keeping with the Indian government's "Make in India" policy, design and engineering of the ships will be done at the company's dedicated warship design center.

The company is currently executing Indian ministry of defense contracts for design and construction of 54 interceptor boats for the Indian coast guard, 28 of which have been delivered.

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Taiwan Asks Google to Blur a Secret Island Base, Plan Backfires

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Taiwan had good reason to want to hide a secret island base in the South China Sea. The country is building military fortifications on the island whose legal status is claimed or disputed by multiple countries. Taiwan asked Google to blur out the base on Google Maps, but that request has now backfired because was made public.

The location is Itu Aba or Taiping Island. It lies 763 miles south of Taiwan in the Spratly Islands. Taiwan has controlled Itu Aba since the 1950s, but China and Vietnam have openly claimed the islands, and the nearby Philippines contends this one is legally only a "rock" that does not qualify for full territorial rights.

The request seems to involve four new concrete structures that have popped up on the north side of the island in the last eight months. In January 2016, the director of the Center of Strategic and International Studies' Asia Maritime Transparency Initiative visited Itu Aba with Taiwanese officials. At the time, the structures were not present.

Right now, Google Maps shows a cluster of four Y-shaped concrete structures with what appears to be strua cture under construction in the center. This is consistent with an air defense battery made of either guns or missiles with search and tracking radars located in the center of the cluster. Here's a similar air defense facility protecting the Vietnamese Air Force base at Kep:

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It's unknown exactly what air defense weapon the structures are meant for, but they could be meant for Skyguard radar-controlled air defense guns, which can engage aircraft at low to medium altitudes at ranges of up to 13,000 feet.

This is not the first time Taiwan has bungled a secret operation visible in Google Maps. In 2009, Taipei disguised HF-2E land attack cruise missile trucks as commercial delivery trucks, complete with a fake company name, "Red Bird Express." After rumors began to circulate about the mysterious vehicles, a roof suddenly appeared over the truck parking lot.

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post Sep 27 2016, 06:31 PM

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Russian Armata Vehicles to Sport Smart Fire-Suppression Gear With 'Black Boxes'

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The recorders are part of the PPO-25 intelligent fire control system developed by Elektromashina Association.

The PPO-25 immediately locates a flare-up and puts it out by adjusting the direction and amount of the firefighting foam depending on the intensity of the blaze.

“The system has already undergone preliminary trials and is currently being tested on new types of armored vehicles,” Ilya Markin, the head of Elektromashina’s firefighting division, told Izvestiya.

He added that the system memorizes the entire sequence of fire extinguishing operations thus making it possible to determine the time, place and causes of the fire.

Independent military expert Oleg Zheltonozhko said that the appearance of onboard recorders on Armata, Kurganets and Bumerang fighting vehicles was necessitated by their technological complexity and price.

“Onboard recorders are normally installed on the most expensive and complex machines like planes, spaceships and helicopters, but the cost and complexity of the latest tanks and armored vehicles is now putting them in the same category,” Zheltonozhko said.

According to Viktor Murakhovsky, editor-in-chief of “Arsenal Otechestva” (Arsenal of the Motherland) journal, Russia’s T-72B3, T-80 and T-90 tanks now carry onboard systems of fire suppression, which respond to sudden temperature jumps caused by a fire and put out the flames using special foam.

The Russian Defense Ministry unveiled its next-generation Armata tank during last year’s May 9 Victory Day military parade in Moscow.

It also rolled out a bevy of heavy armored vehicles based on the Armata combat platform, such as the Kurganets-25 tracked infantry fighting vehicle and the Bumerang amphibious wheeled armored personnel carrier.

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The Kurganets and Bumerang IFVs are currently undergoing testing ahead of their first deployment slated for 2017.
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post Sep 27 2016, 09:24 PM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Sep 27 2016, 05:49 PM)
If this is true (which I really do hope it is) then why Gowind #2 keel laying/cutting steel hasn't made any news? Clearly they are not on schedule.

Lets look at the Kedah class's history from Wiki

KD Perak - Laid down March 2002, Commissioned June 2009 - 7 years plus
KD Terengganu - Laid down August 2004, Commissioned December 2009 - 5 years plus
KD Kelantan - Laid down July 2005, Commissioned May 2010 - 4.5 years
KD Selangor - Laid down July 2006, Commissioned December 2010 - 4.5 years

So best speed is something like 4.5 years, staggered 1 year apart - say every Gowind gets laid down in March with Gowind #6 laid down in March 2020, and we commission a new Gowind every year from end 2020 till end 2025, when Gowind #6 completes.

Best case.
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2# unit no need to report on cut steel anymore or keel laying
the new construction matted is different from last time. plus BNS more better experience/capability than last time.
new matted allow ship join all piece module in 6-9 month (depend size) in shipyard. all module is pre-built in locally or other partner. after launch only do other assembly/fitting.
that allow shipyard have more time to built other ship (business), not Occupying the the shipyard.
anyway LCS said early is 2022 finish all ship.

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CAESAR 8x8 look not bad .no bad。。。 simple laugh.gif
look like little shorter than Archer means more balance/mobility

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Pakistan warns of "water war" with India if decades-old treaty violated

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ISLAMABAD/NEW DELHI: Pakistan would treat it as "an act of war" if India revoked the Indus Water Treaty regulating river flows between the two nations, Pakistan's top foreign official said on Tuesday.

Tension has been mounting between the nuclear-armed neighbours since at least 18 Indian soldiers in the disputed Kashmir region were killed this month in an attack that New Delhi blames on Pakistan.

India on Tuesday summoned Pakistan's High Commissioner in New Delhi to inform him about two men from Pakistan now in Indian custody who it alleges helped gunmen cross the disputed Kashmir border before the attack. Pakistan denies involvement in the raid and has urged India to conduct a proper investigation.

One retaliatory move being considered by Prime Minister Narendra Modi is for India to "maximise" the amount of water it uses
including by accelerating building of new hydropower plants, along three rivers that flow into Pakistan, a source with knowledge of a meeting attended by Modi on Monday told Reuters.

The source said India does not plan to abrogate the decades-old Indus Water Treaty. But using more of the rivers' water is still likely to hurt Pakistan as the Islamic Republic depends on snow-fed Himalayan rivers for everything from drinking water to agriculture.

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Sartaj Aziz, foreign policy adviser to Prime Minister Nawaz Sharif, said Islamabad would seek arbitration with the Indus Water Commission which monitors the treaty if India increased the use of water from the Chenab, Jhelum and Indus rivers.

However, if India revoked the treaty, Aziz said Pakistan would treat that as "an act of war or a hostile act against Pakistan."

"It's highly irresponsible on part of India to even consider revocation of the Indus Water Treaty," Aziz told the national assembly.

The treaty was signed in 1960 in a bid to resolve disputes, but India's ambitious irrigation plans and construction of thousands of upstream dams has continued to annoy Pakistan. India says its use of upstream water is strictly in line with the agreement.

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India currently generates about 3,000 megawatts of energy from hydropower plants along rivers in its portion of Kashmir, but believes the region has the potential to produce 18,000 megawatts and says it can use more water and still remain within the terms of the treaty.

Aziz said India's provocative posturing constitutes a breach of the Indus Water Treaty and "threats of a water war are part of a military, economic and diplomatic campaign to build pressure on Pakistan", and deflect attention from civil unrest by the Muslim population in the Indian-ruled side of Kashmir.

DETAINED BY VILLAGERS

The attack on the Indian brigade headquarters in the Kashmir town of Uri before dawn on Sept. 18 was the deadliest in 14 years in the disputed Himalayan region and has sharply raised tensions between the arch-rivals.

India on Tuesday told Pakistan's High Commissioner that security forces had in their custody two men - a 19-year old and a 20-year old - who helped a group of gunmen cross the de facto border dividing Kashmir before launching the Sept. 18 raid, and that they were from Pakistan-controlled Kashmir.

In a statement, India's foreign ministry said the two men were apprehended by local villagers on Sept. 21, and that one of them had since admitted their role as guides and also identified one of the gunmen as a Pakistani from Muzaffarabad.

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Reuters could not independently verify these claims.

A Pakistan foreign ministry spokesman did not immediately respond to a request for comment.

(Reporting by Drazen Jorgic in ISLAMABAD and Tommy Wilkes in NEW DELHI; Editing by Richard Balmforth)

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Turkish Tanks Take a Pounding in Syria

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Today, Turkey fields three types of M-60s, including 658 M-60A3 TTS vehicles with improved thermal sights for night combat, and 170 Israeli-upgraded M-60A1 Sabra Mark II tanks, designated the M-60T in Turkish service. Ankara fields 104 more M-60A1 tanks that it has yet to upgrade to M-60Ts.
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On April 21, video evidence appeared of Islamic State fighters firing a Kornet anti-tank missile at a Turkish M-60T tank, which was training Iraqi forces in Bashiqah, a town north of Mosul. Turkish troops returned fire and killed 32 Islamic State fighters, according to the Turkish army.
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A picture of the vehicle released after the incident revealed that the missile damaged the vehicle — but it didn’t appear to fully penetrate.
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It’s possible the missile didn’t cause a full kill because it struck the side of the Patton’s turret rather than the center of mass.
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In May 2016, Kurdish fighters claimed the destruction of two Turkish M-60s. In video footage of one incident, an anti-tank team cheered as their missile struck a tank deployed behind sandbagged defensive positions on the top of a hill.
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On Aug. 27 a Kurdish anti-tank team knocked out a Patton with a U.S.-made TOW missile, leading to the first Turkish death in the intervention. The destruction of a second Patton appeared on video shortly afterward.
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On Aug. 27 a Kurdish anti-tank team knocked out a Patton with a U.S.-made TOW missile, leading to the first Turkish death in the intervention. The destruction of a second Patton appeared on video shortly afterward.
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However, on Sept. 7, the Islamic State released video footage of two Turkish Pattons near Al Rai taking hits from missiles — again likely to be Kornets. Testifying to the power of the Russian-designed missiles, the first tank violently burst into the flames, while the second erupted in a cloud of smoke and debris.
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The Firtinas have long-barreled 155 millimeter howitzers with a range of 30 to 40 kilometers depending on the ammunition.
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On April 30, the Islamic State released a video depicting AT-13 Metis-M missiles taking out a platoon of three Firtinas in sandbagged positions. Like most self-propelled artillery, the Firtina’s armor is for stopping shrapnel and small arms, not guided missiles — leaving one to wonder why the vehicles were in such an exposed position in the first place.
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Finally, the Otokar Kobra is a unique armored vehicle incorporating Humvee DNA. For one, it has the same suspension and wheel base. However, unlike the Humvee, it’s designed from the get-go with a mine-resistant v-shaped hull and better protection from small arms and shrapnel.
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Despite reportedly having a good record surviving blasts from improvised explosive devices and mines, this has simply led to Kurdish fighters making bigger bombs. In August 2015, a 2,000 pound IED destroyed a Turkish army Kobra in Siirte province, killing its eight passengers.


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post Sep 28 2016, 10:59 AM

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DND finalizing contract for Navy's 2 missile-firing frigates

MANILA, Sept. 27 (PNA) -- The contract for the Philippine Navy's two missile-armed frigates is now being finalized, Department of National Defense (DND) public affairs office chief Arsenio Andolong said Monday.

Once the contract is finalized, it will be signed by DND Secretary Delfin Lorenzana and the duly authorized representative of the winning proponent, Hyundai Heavy Industries (HHI), he added.

"Notice of Award (NOA) was formally served to HHI last Aug. 4. Once the formal contract is signed, it will be followed by a Notice to Proceed, which will be formally served to the proponent," Andolong said.

"NOA was given to HHI as GRSE (Garden Reach Shipbuilders and Engineers Ltd) was post-disqualified after it was determined that their Net Financial Capacity was insufficient and therefore not in compliance with Republic Act 9184 (Government Procurement Policy Board)," he added.

GRSE along with HHI was one of the six proponents in the DND's frigate program.

In the NOA, HHI offered PHP15,744,571,884 for the two frigates.

The DND has allocated the sum of PHP18 billion for the acquisition of two missile-capable frigates, with PHP16 billion going to the construction of the ships and PHP2 billion for its munitions.

The ships will be armed with a variety of sensors and weapons capable of detecting and neutralizing air, surface, and submarine threats.

It will be also capable of electronic warfare.

Aside from this, the frigates, according to their technical specifications, must be capable of performing extended maritime patrol with an embarked naval helicopter and maritime surveillance through air-and-surface-search radar, sound navigation and ranging (sonar) for sub-surface search.

It will be armed and fitted a variety of air-to-air, anti-ship, and anti-submarine weapons. (PNA)


http://www.pna.gov.ph/index.php?idn=1&sid=&nid=1&rid=926455


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