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DDG_Ross
post Nov 2 2016, 12:31 AM

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so the lms deal is inked
no detailed info yet available but from what we know is 4 will be built in 2-years time
2 will be built in china another 2 will be built here
more will be purchased if rmn satisfied with the vessels

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post Nov 2 2016, 01:02 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 2 2016, 12:45 AM)
I can't see the position of the MSI-30 on the model
Is it the hangar roof thingy? I thought that might be a radar
If it is then yeah thats a good place to put CIWS if needed
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post Nov 2 2016, 02:18 AM

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QUOTE(BorneoAlliance @ Nov 2 2016, 02:11 AM)
after a discount of about 30% financed by the German government
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ahahahahaha goyims using guiltcard™ as always

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post Nov 2 2016, 11:29 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 2 2016, 11:28 AM)
I was discussing military matters with some friends the other day, when unexpectedly someone asked: "If war break out between Malaysia and someone else in the ASEAN region, can we force a superpower to help us by threatening to close/restrict access to the straits of Malacca if they don't?"

I had to admit I had no answer. hmm.gif
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fpda?
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post Nov 2 2016, 11:43 AM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 2 2016, 11:35 AM)
It was made quite clear that FDPA is not a formal alliance, just an defence forum. In the event of war on Malaysia or Singapore the FDPA members must be 'consulted'. It was never said any declaration of war on both countries is an automatic trigger for alliance members' action unlike article 5 of NATO charter.
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if the straits is threatened then it wouldnt be just msia got affected but sgpore too
and you know that sgpore is the uncle sam biggest ally in the region so expect the 7th fleet to be parked at changi
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post Nov 2 2016, 01:02 PM

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QUOTE(AxeFire @ Nov 2 2016, 12:56 PM)
and if not satisfied can return to the shop??
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buat tukun laugh.gif
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:20 PM

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so the lms will be built by csoc and boustead
azmat class incoming?

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Boustead and CSOC to build Navy vessels

BY LOKMAN MANSOR - 2 NOVEMBER 2016 @ 2:49 PM Facebook 1 Twitter Share 1

BEIJING: Boustead Naval Shipyard Sdn Bhd (BNS) and China Shipbuilding & Offshore International Co., Ltd. (CSOC) will build the recently-announced Royal Malaysian Navy (RMN) vessels purchased from China, Defence Minister Datuk Seri Hishammuddin Hussein disclosed yesterday.

Under the deal signed during Prime Minister Datuk Seri Najib Razak's ongoing official visit to China, Malaysia is buying four littoral mission ships (LMS) from China. Two vessels will be built in China and another two will be made in Malaysia.

"Although it is a government-to-government deal between the ministry and its China counterpart, at the end the day (BNS) and a company designated by the Chinese, CSOC, have been identified," he told Malaysian media here last night.

Hishammuddin said the LMS purchases were off-budget and did not involve additional allocation as it would be financed by savings from the RMN's own internal realignment of resources. "The decision is made by the navy.

The money is coming from the navy from the savings. So it is a win-win, creative solution," he added. Hishammuddin said this was an out-of-the-box thinking by the RMN to acquire defence assets in a cost effective way.

"This (deal) is historical for us in the ministry and I believe that if it works or well, we can go further from here," he added.

Read More : http://www.nst.com.my/news/2016/11/185347/...ld-navy-vessels


csoc past project azmat class
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post Nov 2 2016, 03:50 PM

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so it will be a variant of the durjoy class

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post Nov 3 2016, 05:55 AM

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QUOTE(KLboy92 @ Nov 2 2016, 11:08 PM)
Can rely on azriel for constant updates then thumbup.gif
I hate to think what kaskus or cari is saying about it tho whistling.gif
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its just a marketing agreement but then again boustead literally got monopoly on msian naval shipbuilding industry
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post Nov 3 2016, 02:49 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 3 2016, 02:31 PM)
Seriously, these new Russian Army Ural lorries looked like they rolled off a factory in the 1950s. laugh.gif
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if it doesnt break dun fix it
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post Nov 4 2016, 09:46 AM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 4 2016, 09:37 AM)
Computer graphic LMS from China
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still early concept as its just a cgi of the durjoy class slapped with lms68 letters
though we now officially knows the ship will be a longer version at 68m
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:38 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 4 2016, 06:45 PM)
Personally i not really prefer size 700 tons navy ship as Patrol craft,
it should more low tons like 450 tons 60 meter. enough carry 30 crew, weapon only with 25/30mm gun + 2 x 12.7mm navy gun + 2 RHIB
cost just about usd 20-30 mil, Daman/Austal or other country plenty of this type to patrol boat, and it design optimization operation & efficiency。
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did you just described a perfect ship for the coast guard? laugh.gif
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post Nov 4 2016, 07:51 PM

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QUOTE(bereev @ Nov 4 2016, 07:37 PM)
no need talk so much if real u aldy pull him out, now say will never see him again  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif  laugh.gif
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he is just trying to shift the blame to others for his best friend abu sayyaf as he wants to include them in his amnesty appeal
by saying the msian gomen plans the kidnapping and the abu sayyaf is an innocent party so misuari can include them in his peace talks
luckily duterte is having none of that shit coming out of misuari mouth biggrin.gif biggrin.gif

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Duterte: Misuari wants amnesty for Abu Sayyaf

MANILA - President Rodrigo Duterte revealed Tuesday that Moro National Liberation Front (MNLF) founder Nur Misuari wants to include the Abu Sayyaf Group in peace talks with the government.

Duterte added that Misuari also wants amnesty for members of the terrorist group.

"Si Misuari, I've been waiting for him but he seems equivocal because 'yung proposal niya ngayon, pati 'yung Abu Sayyaf, isali na niya at pagdating nga panahon kung magka-okay tayo, isali natin sa general amnesty," Duterte said in a speech before more than 400 Marines during a camp visit at the Philippine Marine Headquarters in Taguig City.

(I've been waiting for (Nur) Misuari but he seems equivocal. He is proposing to include the Abu Sayyaf Group in the peace talks, and eventually, make them eligible for general amnesty.)

Duterte said he rejected the proposal outright. He said he is willing to drop the talks with Misuari altogether if he insists on bringing in the Abu Sayyaf.

"Sabi ko, pagka-ganun, 'wag na lang tayo mag-usap. I will not, for the life of me, as a matter of principle. Forget about it," Duterte said.
(I said, if that is the case, it's better if we drop the talks. I will not, for the life of me, as a matter of principle. Forget about it.)

He had some harsh words for the terrorist group.

"Why should I talk to animals? What's the point? Ni walang awa. (They show no mercy.)"

Duterte said his administration will not deal amicably with the terrorist group.

"Ang mga Morong kapatid ko, sabi ko nga, federalism... Pumunta ka sa akin with a mixed crowd including 'yung Abu Sayyaf, bahala ka diyan. You wait for another president," he said.

(To my Moro brethren, my proposal is federalism. But if you come to me with a mixed crowd, which is with the Abu Sayyaf, you better get lost. You wait for another president.)

http://news.abs-cbn.com/news/09/27/16/dute...-for-abu-sayyaf

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post Nov 7 2016, 01:39 PM

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QUOTE(braun.buffel @ Nov 7 2016, 01:27 PM)
its like someone giving out an old volvo.

before you start driving, you have to spend hefty might as well as just get a new saga....
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japan have a reputation of giving out nice stuff to others
and its not their first time giving free vessels to msia

in the past they ady given training ship km marlin to mmea
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and buoy laying ship pedoman to the marine department
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and all for foc brows.gif brows.gif

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post Nov 7 2016, 02:57 PM

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QUOTE(waja2000 @ Nov 7 2016, 02:27 PM)
Both is new ship ... went give to MMEA.
but this time is 1600+ tons ship old ship.
i worry is rojak ship in MMEA,
cost maintenance will be high,and take more time to service.
MMEA budget is low。
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rojak ship is inevitable since mmea inception laugh.gif
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post Nov 7 2016, 03:51 PM

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QUOTE(MilitaryMadness @ Nov 7 2016, 03:42 PM)
I was hoping the lobbying started early. It's not everyday a navy wants to overhaul its entire fleet. Could mean good business for shipyards. PRC already got a fat LMS contract, who doesn't want a piece of that pie?

Anyway, down to 4 types left. biggrin.gif
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actually only down to 1 type left which is the mrss (boustead have ady target the makassar)
all other ngpv, sgpv, lms and the submarine only need expansion programme
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post Nov 7 2016, 09:56 PM

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lel looks like all the boys in the region is using the caracals nod.gif

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post Nov 7 2016, 11:04 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 7 2016, 10:51 PM)
singapore/indon use pukima and super puma way earlier than us
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well did you know that rmaf did operate a super puma at one time? brows.gif brows.gif
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post Nov 7 2016, 11:11 PM

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QUOTE(ayanami_tard @ Nov 7 2016, 11:06 PM)
vip transport.
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post Nov 8 2016, 10:09 AM

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QUOTE(Strike @ Nov 8 2016, 09:44 AM)
PH say sabah?

MY say tawi tawi?

so how? PH recovered the yatch.. laugh.gif
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ph sources also quoted taw-tawi
the asg spokeperson also confirms the boat is snatched there

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Muammar Askali alias Abu Ramie, a self-proclaimed spokesperson of the Abu Sayyaf, said the group was able to snatch two German tourists in Tawi-tawi, the country’s southernmost province.

“Unfortunately, the other one died. She tried to shoot us, so we shot her. She died,” Askali said in a brief phone conversation on Sunday morning.


Abus kidnap German man in Tawi-tawi
http://newsinfo.inquirer.net/841650/abus-k...an-in-tawi-tawi

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