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TSyhanwong
post Jan 28 2007, 06:13 PM, updated 19y ago

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as title...

wira 1.5 auto 1994 with 3speed transmision only
test condition is
from my house to tar college 27.5km
1 trip in 5day
27.5km x 2(trip) x 5day = 275km (*and i dun speed. whole trip just 80km/h, no over 80)

my wira petrol consumption
require RM 60 petrol to do that.. is this normal? the fuel consumption? shakehead.gif

Yapmy
post Jan 28 2007, 06:18 PM

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I think with RM60 u should be able to do about 300km. But for your car its still under the normal range. Just make sure u do regular check ups and servicing at the required time.
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post Jan 28 2007, 06:21 PM

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QUOTE(Yapmy @ Jan 28 2007, 06:18 PM)
I think with RM60 u should be able to do about 300km. But for your car its still under the normal range. Just make sure u do regular check ups and servicing at the required time.
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yup, my old wira aeroback 1.5gli also performing quite similar...

perhaps ur trip is having a lot of traffic lights and junctions where u need to stop & re-accelerate?
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post Jan 28 2007, 06:25 PM

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won so bad la the fc. around 46km for RM10.
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post Jan 28 2007, 06:40 PM

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QUOTE(leowhy @ Jan 28 2007, 06:21 PM)
yup, my old wira aeroback 1.5gli also performing quite similar...

perhaps ur trip is having a lot of traffic lights and junctions where u need to stop & re-accelerate?
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maybe.. cause i use mrr2.. traffic sometime can be very worst...


QUOTE(lee831219 @ Jan 28 2007, 06:25 PM)
won so bad la the fc. around 46km for RM10.
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bad? then how yours?
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post Jan 28 2007, 06:41 PM

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I think it's normal for Wira 1.5 Auto to have that high FC... Everyone I came across who's driven a Wira 1.5 Auto had told me the same thing... Very high FC.
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post Jan 28 2007, 09:40 PM

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That's because of 3 speed auto gearbox. Nothing much you can do about it. Try observe the engine RPM when you're cruising at 80km/h. I bet it's approaching 3k RPM wink.gif
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post Jan 28 2007, 09:46 PM

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change to manual gearbox la... no more headache.... can easily reach 400km per full tank....
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post Jan 28 2007, 09:50 PM

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for wira 1.5 A, what is the normal FC? 350km per full tank consider bad?
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post Jan 29 2007, 01:34 AM

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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Jan 28 2007, 06:40 PM)
maybe.. cause i use mrr2.. traffic sometime can be very worst...
bad? then how yours?
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Did u read my post carefully?

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won so bad la the fc. around 46km for RM10.



Added on January 29, 2007, 1:36 am
QUOTE(popiah04 @ Jan 28 2007, 09:50 PM)
for wira 1.5 A, what is the normal FC? 350km per full tank consider bad?
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how much ur full tank?

This post has been edited by lee831219: Jan 29 2007, 01:36 AM
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post Jan 29 2007, 02:03 AM

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Last time my 1.5 wira auto can go 440km with one full tank going slow n steady when it was quite new......now only about 300 n my mom is driving it

Now i using 1.6 wira manual can go 500+ full tank if slow n steady n still manage around 400 with crazy driving n all the time revving
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post Jan 29 2007, 06:48 PM

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QUOTE(kayef @ Jan 29 2007, 02:03 AM)
Last time my 1.5 wira auto can go 440km with one full tank going slow n steady when it was quite new......now only about 300 n my mom is driving it

Now i using 1.6 wira manual can go 500+ full tank if slow n steady n still manage around 400 with crazy driving n all the time revving
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wah..sure or not? even honda city lose already.
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post Jan 29 2007, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Jan 29 2007, 01:34 AM)

how much ur full tank?
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about rm70-ish. usually i'll go to the station whenever i see the warning light, say about 20-40km from the first light i see. what about others? how do u guys fare with 1.5A?
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post Feb 4 2007, 11:19 AM

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QUOTE(popiah04 @ Jan 29 2007, 07:42 PM)
about rm70-ish. usually i'll go to the station whenever i see the warning light, say about 20-40km from the first light i see. what about others? how do u guys fare with 1.5A?
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mean RM70 for 350km. then 50km per RM10. still ok la the fc..
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post Feb 4 2007, 03:01 PM

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my 5 years old Wira 1.5 AT also have the similar high FC, but if you step on your right foot a bit gently... sometime can go up to RM10/60km +/-

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post Feb 4 2007, 10:54 PM

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yup. very normal. used to own a 97 model 1.5A. problem with it is the lousy 3 speed auto. problem comes when you run on highways. 3k rpm is around 90 km/h and when you stay too long on 140km/h, you will see the temp needle going up to hot and you get to stop by at the side of the road to have a cup of tea. new 1.5 wira auto already comes with 4 speed auto. so this problem is a pass. my experience has been twice over heating and once radiator explode and leakage due to over heat. because of the lousy transmission, i decided to sell it off and get something reliable.

if you consider on the 4 speed auto. that should settle the problem of speed vs rpm issue. but do remember the 1.5 soch is way too underpower and you will feel the lack of power, and countless reving to achieve desire speeds.
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post Feb 5 2007, 03:52 AM

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woah wira that teruk ah? 3rd speed lousy ahh..hmmm can fix ah this problem?
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post Feb 5 2007, 10:51 AM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Feb 4 2007, 10:54 PM)
yup. very normal. used to own a 97 model 1.5A. problem with it is the lousy 3 speed auto. problem comes when you run on highways. 3k rpm is around 90 km/h and when you stay too long on 140km/h, you will see the temp needle going up to hot and you get to stop by at the side of the road to have a cup of tea. new 1.5 wira auto already comes with 4 speed auto. so this problem is a pass. my experience has been twice over heating and once radiator explode and leakage due to over heat. because of the lousy transmission, i decided to sell it off and get something reliable.

if you consider on the 4 speed auto. that should settle the problem of speed vs rpm issue. but do remember the 1.5 soch is way too underpower and you will feel the lack of power, and countless reving to achieve desire speeds.
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Sure arr new Wira 1.5 Auto now comes with 4 speed auto? How to know that? Plan to buy 1 blush.gif
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post Feb 5 2007, 12:19 PM

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i always pump 35-38 liters of gasoline....city driving can only reach around +-320KM....

P.S: year 2001 wira 1.5L
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hmm... Wira's FC quite high eh?
My 1.6 Vitara... RM95 for 460-480km.
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post Feb 5 2007, 12:58 PM

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u shud get around 45-50KM for RM10 gas..

better use Caltex..me from JB -> KL (300++KM) .. Full Tank (RM70) on Wira 1.5 Auto and still got 1 bar left...huhuhu..
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post Feb 5 2007, 01:02 PM

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Wira 1.5A is really a sad car. Previously i was driving 1 @ 300km/38l, now change to vios @ 510km/38l. Can see the difference??
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post Feb 5 2007, 01:54 PM

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QUOTE(Vervain @ Feb 4 2007, 10:54 PM)
yup. very normal. used to own a 97 model 1.5A. problem with it is the lousy 3 speed auto. problem comes when you run on highways. 3k rpm is around 90 km/h and when you stay too long on 140km/h, you will see the temp needle going up to hot and you get to stop by at the side of the road to have a cup of tea. new 1.5 wira auto already comes with 4 speed auto. so this problem is a pass. my experience has been twice over heating and once radiator explode and leakage due to over heat. because of the lousy transmission, i decided to sell it off and get something reliable.

if you consider on the 4 speed auto. that should settle the problem of speed vs rpm issue. but do remember the 1.5 soch is way too underpower and you will feel the lack of power, and countless reving to achieve desire speeds.
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Sure the newer Wira 1.5 is with 4-speed AUTO????
If not mistaken... all Stock 1.5 Wira with 4G15 engine will have only 3 speed AUTO new model or old... all same....

QUOTE(rockdaman @ Feb 5 2007, 12:19 PM)
i always pump 35-38 liters of gasoline....city driving can only reach around +-320KM....

P.S: year 2001 wira 1.5L
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Me also the same...
Normally, pump RM 78+- petrol and get 320 km +- also...

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post Feb 5 2007, 04:41 PM

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Last time using father in law 1.5A for about 1 year. Got 400 to 450 km per full tank. He said he put something to save fuel. Do no what...

Currently with Vios, RM 0.13 per km rclxm9.gif
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post Feb 5 2007, 06:12 PM

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i know the wira 1.6(A) versions come with 4 speed auto gearbox, becuase of the O/D button. Anyway, is it possible to transfer the wira 1.6 (A) gearbox to the 1.5 (A) one, can it be done?

Because if it is possible, then yeah, u'll have a 4 speed for your wira 1.5(A)
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post Feb 5 2007, 09:28 PM

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QUOTE(WhizzWork2005 @ Feb 5 2007, 01:54 PM)
Sure the newer Wira 1.5 is with 4-speed AUTO????
If not mistaken... all Stock 1.5 Wira with 4G15 engine will have only 3 speed AUTO new model or old... all same....
Me also the same...
Normally, pump RM 78+- petrol and get 320 km +- also...
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yup the new wira aeroback se comes with 4 speed auto. sorry for the lack of information.
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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Jan 28 2007, 06:13 PM)
as title...

wira 1.5 auto 1994 with 3speed transmision only
test condition is
from my house to tar college 27.5km
1 trip in 5day
27.5km x 2(trip) x 5day = 275km (*and i dun speed. whole trip just 80km/h, no over 80)

my wira petrol consumption
require RM 60 petrol to do that..  is this normal? the fuel consumption? shakehead.gif
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Your car stock standard?

Wira 1994, wow 12+ years. How is the engine condition? Any white smoke from the exhaust pipe?
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post Feb 5 2007, 11:00 PM

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from my personal experience, using primax3 is better for my FC, compared to "more mileage" from shell. didnt try projet or the rest though
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post Feb 6 2007, 04:58 PM

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My sold 99 Wira 1.5 A/B, could give me around 500KM per full tank. I used it to travel along NS highway daily.
Beside, I did mod quiet heavy with my sold wira with K&N drop-in, NGK platinium plugs, plug cable , 3 units fuel saver, 4-2-1 extractor, cut cat., S flow exhaust pipe.

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post Feb 6 2007, 08:50 PM

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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Jan 28 2007, 06:13 PM)
as title...

wira 1.5 auto 1994 with 3speed transmision only
test condition is
from my house to tar college 27.5km
1 trip in 5day
27.5km x 2(trip) x 5day = 275km (*and i dun speed. whole trip just 80km/h, no over 80)

my wira petrol consumption
require RM 60 petrol to do that..  is this normal? the fuel consumption? shakehead.gif
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Your car is about 13 years old, so the fuel consumption should be higher than new wira. SO, it think it is normal biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2007, 09:32 PM

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QUOTE(lee831219 @ Jan 29 2007, 01:34 AM)
Did u read my post carefully?

Added on January 29, 2007, 1:36 am
how much ur full tank?
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sorry dude... new to this thread... dunno fc==fuel consumption. shocking.gif

QUOTE(zeist @ Feb 5 2007, 10:41 PM)
Your car stock standard?
Wira 1994, wow 12+ years. How is the engine condition? Any white smoke from the exhaust pipe?
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ya... nothing mod to the engine.. still the same...
but since is old car.. just normal service every 5000km
ya.. no white smoke...

QUOTE(popiah04 @ Feb 5 2007, 11:00 PM)
from my personal experience, using primax3 is better for my FC, compared to "more mileage" from shell. didnt try projet or the rest though
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i dun think got difference..
i try project, shell and primax.
almost same...
currently using primax due to the bankcard convient thumbup.gif

QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 6 2007, 08:50 PM)
Your car is about 13 years old, so the fuel consumption should be higher than new wira. SO, it think it is normal biggrin.gif
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but somehow the fc are killing me... day by day.. (cant imagine if the petrol price rise again)
want change car but this old car max only can sell 7k... rclxub.gif
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My 13 year old wira 1.5A sedan average bout 17-18 sen per km and this is avoiding the jam in the morning and evening by going to work early in the morning and going home late in the evening. Still very good condition and change spark plug+engine oil+transmission oil.
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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Feb 6 2007, 09:32 PM)
want change car but this old car max only can sell 7k...  rclxub.gif
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No choice lah unless you change your car biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2007, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(kb2005 @ Feb 6 2007, 09:37 PM)
No choice lah unless you change your car biggrin.gif
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7k also not enough to bayar muka lah.. how to buy...

think maintain it fequenlty.. still can use for few year de...
by the way.. i remember that malaysia gov are 'learning' singapore where those over 15 years car are not allow on the road.. <--- is this true?
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QUOTE(yhanwong @ Feb 6 2007, 09:45 PM)
7k also not enough to bayar muka lah.. how to buy...

think maintain it fequenlty.. still can use for few year de...
by the way.. i remember that malaysia gov are 'learning' singapore where those over 15 years car are not allow on the road.. <--- is this true?
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No confirmation from the government on the implementation yet biggrin.gif
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post Feb 6 2007, 10:54 PM

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you can try to overhaul the engine, retune the carburator. which is the cheap way. the expensive way is to change the carburator to a EFI unit. there are workshops which does such transplant. But do take note that the cost is high and its not practical unless you're stuck to the car for another few more years. in addition. you won't get a drastic in performance but its much better than the old carb engine.

 

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