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 HLA : Prime Wealth, Not so bad?

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Showtime747
post Sep 7 2016, 10:42 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Sep 7 2016, 05:56 PM)
A HLA agent met up with me and she was pitching this Prime Wealth plan from HLA LINKY for more info.

Ofcourse it was not a 100% super honest presentation, I had to cut thru a lot of marketing gimmick to get to the nitty gritty.

Actually it doesnt look so bad... as long as you can withdraw the money out FAST and not leave it lingering for 30 years getting stupidly low returns.

She presented that the payment is only 6 years, by 9th years we can withdraw everything.

A quick calculation I did shows that the returns outstrip the FD for sure... but I wish to double check if I missed anything... if confimr can withdraw everything WITHOUT penalty by the 9th years.. I might go for it.... 40~50k forced savings per annum sounds decent..
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Bro, use IRR calculation to assess an investment with periodical cash inflow and cash outflow

Don't need to see what are the returns rate 5.25%, bonus, dividend etc

Your cash inflow and outflow is as follows :

Year 0 -RM100k
Year 1 -RM100k
Year 2 -RM100k
Year 3 -RM100k
Year 4 -RM100k
Year 5 -RM100k
Year 6 RM0
Year 7 RM0
Year 8 RM0
Year 9 +RM812k

The IRR is 4.7152%

http://www.calkoo.com/?lang=3&page=26

The calculation will be affected by :

1. Your "guarantee" on bonus and dividend - whether they are fixed or variable
2. If you can withdraw without penalty in 9th year

If the above calculation is correct (please check the timing of cashflow), then 4.7% is not that a fantastic returns. It fits roughly in with a lot of those Saving Plans which force you to save XXX amt a year, by the year Y, you get ZZZ amount. Considering there are still some variable dividend which they don't commit to you, and that might affect your returns.

Invest in stock market like Reits can get more % for that.

But IMO, these types of saving plans are best for those who have no discipline and spend all their money whenever they see balance in their bank. It is a force saving.
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post Sep 7 2016, 11:00 PM

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QUOTE(MeToo @ Sep 7 2016, 10:47 PM)
812k was my calculation without factoring in the "compound interest" they are also including into the mix...

1. Apparently the bonus is guaranteed... the dividen she gave the impression it was, will re-clarify
2. That was my understanding, 9th year can exit.

As for equities etc getting better returns, sure, this is for diversifying the portfolio... i cant be putting everything in shares/commodities/properties..
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Ya, use the IRR calculator to estimate the cash inflow and outflow (add in the additional compound interest), then you can compare whether the plan suits you

You have already made investment in shares, commodity, properties. You already have some higher risk stuff in your portfolio. If I were you, I will put in FD/bonds for saver investment to balance the risk

Because this type of investment tie you in for years. It is not as flexible as FD or bond funds.

But at the end of the day, it is your pick.
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post Sep 8 2016, 02:20 PM

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With return ~4-5% from the plan, buy blue chip shares better. Maybank DY now >5-6% price RM7.xx. In 9 years time, chances are price will increase. You have RM100k per year, even buy property for rental is better although rental yield could be around 3-4% only. In 9 years time, the price is at another level

 

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