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post Feb 15 2017, 04:51 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 15 2017, 11:07 AM)
thats per rim or per set? if per set for that price is spray paint most likely
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asked is per set la.told me powder coating.
so fast used one year still look very new.no chipping or fade.
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QUOTE(leehernandez @ Feb 15 2017, 04:51 PM)
asked is per set la.told me powder coating.
so fast used one year still look very new.no chipping or fade.
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Per set is for 2 wheels?

I once asked a powder coat shop they ask RM150+30(sandblasting) for EACH Rim
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QUOTE(Lineage @ Jan 27 2017, 12:13 AM)
430/pc good price..can you share the name of the shop?
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QUOTE(biotin @ Jan 31 2017, 04:01 PM)
Care ro share bro?thanks
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i forget the shop name....need pass by again to remember..lol
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post Feb 16 2017, 11:30 AM

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Some price update...

225/45/18 hup shun Sunway RM430 (Inc 6% gst)

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post Feb 17 2017, 03:36 PM

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initial review after that day go touge batang kali to genting. just happen gohtong to genting rain, can test damp condition.

1. more comfort compare to s drive , yellow line feel not as harsh as s drive
2. same damper setting , a lot more roll , just as i use hand to test the sidewall,it feel softer
3. the grip level might be around the same as s drive, i dunno whether the tire fully run in yet , but the limit seem much earlier than s drive, squeeze much earlier. new s drive don't seem to squeeze much.
4. wet/damp condition better than s drive when new, but not sure about aquaplaning resistance though

my suspension setup guy suggest me to play around with the damper clicker to try first as he said this tire better than s drive, i will try to.

for now if you ask me, I will choose S drive instead.

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post Feb 17 2017, 07:42 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 03:36 PM)
initial review after that day go touge batang kali to genting. just happen gohtong to genting rain, can test damp condition.

1. more comfort compare to s drive , yellow line feel not as harsh as s drive
2. same damper setting , a lot more roll , just as i use hand to test the sidewall,it feel softer
3. the grip level might be around the same as s drive, i dunno whether the tire fully run in yet , but the limit seem much earlier than s drive, squeeze much earlier. new s drive don't seem to squeeze much.
4. wet/damp condition better than s drive when new, but not sure about aquaplaning resistance though

my suspension setup guy suggest me to play around with the damper  clicker to try first as he said this tire better than s drive, i will try to.

for now if you ask me, I will choose S drive instead.
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give it some time, my new tyre (not this brand) feel grip increase after 700km.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 03:36 PM)
initial review after that day go touge batang kali to genting. just happen gohtong to genting rain, can test damp condition.

1. more comfort compare to s drive , yellow line feel not as harsh as s drive
2. same damper setting , a lot more roll , just as i use hand to test the sidewall,it feel softer
3. the grip level might be around the same as s drive, i dunno whether the tire fully run in yet , but the limit seem much earlier than s drive, squeeze much earlier. new s drive don't seem to squeeze much.
4. wet/damp condition better than s drive when new, but not sure about aquaplaning resistance though

my suspension setup guy suggest me to play around with the damper  clicker to try first as he said this tire better than s drive, i will try to.

for now if you ask me, I will choose S drive instead.
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I used to use S Drive and distinctly remember that it made a loud noise till I cannot take it that I had to change it. The grip is good but the noise is unbearable.

After a few years, I finally decided to give another chance on the new S drive replacement as many tyre shops says it quiet.

Well, just change 4 donuts yesterday. First impression was pretty impress. Not loud, nice handling and more comfortable than my previous tyres, RE050A.

Anyway, will take my time to comment further but so far for the 2nd day, it has been quite good!
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post Feb 17 2017, 09:43 PM

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Im going to touge second times on these tyre with different damper setting, will update later
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post Feb 17 2017, 11:41 PM

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 15 2017, 03:21 AM)
no kaya, that one is better one only , others is time to change already.
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handover to kean lee hin jln ipoh, they send it to their contact for powder coat it.
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Your YOKOHAMA Previous S Drive done for how many mileage ?
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 03:36 PM)
initial review after that day go touge batang kali to genting. just happen gohtong to genting rain, can test damp condition.

1. more comfort compare to s drive , yellow line feel not as harsh as s drive
2. same damper setting , a lot more roll , just as i use hand to test the sidewall,it feel softer
3. the grip level might be around the same as s drive, i dunno whether the tire fully run in yet , but the limit seem much earlier than s drive, squeeze much earlier. new s drive don't seem to squeeze much.
4. wet/damp condition better than s drive when new, but not sure about aquaplaning resistance though

my suspension setup guy suggest me to play around with the damper  clicker to try first as he said this tire better than s drive, i will try to.

for now if you ask me, I will choose S drive instead.
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QUOTE(ktek @ Feb 17 2017, 07:42 PM)
give it some time, my new tyre (not this brand) feel grip increase after 700km.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 17 2017, 09:43 PM)
Im going to touge second times on these tyre with different damper setting, will update later
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Ya need to give some run in mileage first, maybe after 500 km then review again. If after that still not good then can forget about it. I will be very disappointed and surprised if it's really worse than S.Drive coz S.Drive is already very old tire and not as good anymore compared to other newer tires available now. I watched a youtube for this Fleva tested against CSC3 in Tsukuba and it did beat CSC3 pretty comprehensively, granted CSC3 is also an old tire but still a pretty good one.
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QUOTE(infinity1987 @ Feb 17 2017, 11:41 PM)
Your YOKOHAMA Previous S Drive done for how many mileage ?
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27k km +- i drive touge quite aggressive
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post Feb 18 2017, 05:43 AM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 18 2017, 01:09 AM)
Ya need to give some run in mileage first, maybe after 500 km then review again. If after that still not good then can forget about it. I will be very disappointed and surprised if it's really worse than S.Drive coz S.Drive is already very old tire and not as good anymore compared to other newer tires available now. I watched a youtube for this Fleva tested against CSC3 in Tsukuba and it did beat CSC3 pretty comprehensively, granted CSC3 is also an old tire but still a pretty good one.
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Just back from genting, learned something new today. hahaha actually for my style of driving I don't think I need that's much of mileage to run in, I checked the tire don't even seem to be any wax (shinny) leftover on the thread.

The story is like this. Wednesday I was touge on damper setting (F10clicks R12clicks count loosen from full stiff), and I felt the grip was bad, so easier to reach tyre limit compared to s drive. It felt even worst than a 50% s drive and I thought the tire haven't fully run in. Then my suspension guy suggested that I go play around with the damper clickers.

Today I touge with my friend (same car ,stock suspension on re003). I set the damper to loosen to F8click R10 click from full stiff. Based on record, my car from gohtong to genting, at least 1 to 2 corner advance if we push our car from guard house to ria aparment. Today run was totally dissapoint with the grip, my friend able to keep up with me and even overtake me due to I dont have the grip to maintain momentum to go in and out of the corner of my low power car.

After we yam cha and discuss, my friend ask whether i'm doing full speed or not, because he felt that i'm quite slow today. The yamcha session I was cursing on how yokohama can rated such tire better than the old s drive and thought of trade in it for a set of RE003. mega_shok.gif After yam cha I decided to give it a go , again. This time I soften the car 3 more click F&R (F11clicks R13clicks). While on the way to going down to chin swee temple and go uphill to test 1 more round, instantly I feel the car roll better than grip better. I couldn't believe, then I push hard on uphill to try. So I found my direction to tune my car, go softer more grip for these tire.

I drive my car to gohtong, play around with the setting. Found out that (F11clicks R14clicks soften from full stiff) seem working the best for this tire in terms of grip and roll level. After have some noodle at gohtong restaurant, going downhill, instantly felt a lot better, turn in, grip level, limit much higher than s drive. sweat.gif sweat.gif

OC4/3is my passenger, please give some review. hahaha icon_rolleyes.gif laugh.gif
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 05:43 AM)
Just back from genting, learned something new today. hahaha actually for my style of driving I don't think I need that's much of mileage to run in, I checked the tire don't even seem to be any wax (shinny) leftover on the thread.

The story is like this. Wednesday I was touge on damper setting (F10clicks R12clicks count loosen from full stiff), and I felt the grip was bad, so easier to reach tyre limit compared to s drive.  It felt even worst than a 50% s drive and I thought the tire haven't fully run in. Then my suspension guy suggested that I go play around with the damper clickers.

Today I touge with my friend (same car ,stock suspension on re003). I set the damper to loosen to F8click R10 click from full stiff. Based on record, my car from gohtong to genting, at least 1 to 2 corner advance if we push our car from guard house to ria aparment. Today run was totally dissapoint with the grip, my friend  able to keep up with me and even overtake me due to I dont have the grip to maintain momentum to go in and out of the corner of my low power car.

After we yam cha and discuss, my friend ask whether i'm doing full speed or not, because he felt that i'm quite slow today. The yamcha session I was cursing on how yokohama can rated such tire better than the old s drive and thought of trade in it for a set of RE003.  mega_shok.gif After yam cha I decided to give it a go , again. This time I soften the car 3 more click F&R (F11clicks R13clicks). While on the way to going down to chin swee temple and go uphill to test 1 more round, instantly I feel the car roll better than grip better. I couldn't  believe, then I push hard on uphill to try. So I found my direction to tune my car, go softer more grip for these tire.

I drive my car to gohtong, play around with the setting. Found out that (F11clicks R14clicks soften from full stiff) seem working the best for this tire in terms of grip and roll level. After have some noodle at gohtong restaurant, going downhill, instantly felt a lot better, turn in, grip level, limit much higher than s drive.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

OC4/3is my passenger, please give some review. hahaha icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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From passenger/keyboard warrior point of view so take it at that
Initial run up from Batang Kali to Ghotong Jaya, each time he enter corner the tyre already squealing kaw kaw rclxub.gif Before even there are any lateral G generated, the squealing noise is crazy rclxub.gif
After he play around with damper setting, it keep on getting better
Softer damping setting = more grip at the expense of roll
The final setup nzh0920 arrive at have good balance between grip and slight roll
On the way down from Ghotong Jaya to Batang Kali(reverse direction from initial run), the difference is significant. There are lateral G and yet the squealing from tire is a lot better, just slight squeal.
TL;DR : Need to have softer damping to run V701 thumbsup.gif

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 05:43 AM)
Just back from genting, learned something new today. hahaha actually for my style of driving I don't think I need that's much of mileage to run in, I checked the tire don't even seem to be any wax (shinny) leftover on the thread.

The story is like this. Wednesday I was touge on damper setting (F10clicks R12clicks count loosen from full stiff), and I felt the grip was bad, so easier to reach tyre limit compared to s drive.  It felt even worst than a 50% s drive and I thought the tire haven't fully run in. Then my suspension guy suggested that I go play around with the damper clickers.

Today I touge with my friend (same car ,stock suspension on re003). I set the damper to loosen to F8click R10 click from full stiff. Based on record, my car from gohtong to genting, at least 1 to 2 corner advance if we push our car from guard house to ria aparment. Today run was totally dissapoint with the grip, my friend  able to keep up with me and even overtake me due to I dont have the grip to maintain momentum to go in and out of the corner of my low power car.

After we yam cha and discuss, my friend ask whether i'm doing full speed or not, because he felt that i'm quite slow today. The yamcha session I was cursing on how yokohama can rated such tire better than the old s drive and thought of trade in it for a set of RE003.  mega_shok.gif After yam cha I decided to give it a go , again. This time I soften the car 3 more click F&R (F11clicks R13clicks). While on the way to going down to chin swee temple and go uphill to test 1 more round, instantly I feel the car roll better than grip better. I couldn't  believe, then I push hard on uphill to try. So I found my direction to tune my car, go softer more grip for these tire.

I drive my car to gohtong, play around with the setting. Found out that (F11clicks R14clicks soften from full stiff) seem working the best for this tire in terms of grip and roll level. After have some noodle at gohtong restaurant, going downhill, instantly felt a lot better, turn in, grip level, limit much higher than s drive.  sweat.gif  sweat.gif

OC4/3is my passenger, please give some review. hahaha icon_rolleyes.gif  laugh.gif
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Hmm that's a bit odd, coz you said the sidewall is already softer yet you still need to run with even softer dampers. What's your tire pressure? Did you play around with that? But anyway if based on you finding, then this tire might still be suitable for me coz my car is also still soft even though already using TRD shocks & Tanabe springs with some UR bars. laugh.gif Currently on CSC5 fr/CSC3 rr and they barely squeal at all. biggrin.gif
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post Feb 18 2017, 12:27 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 18 2017, 11:32 AM)
Hmm that's a bit odd, coz you said the sidewall is already softer yet you still need to run with even softer dampers. What's your tire pressure? Did you play around with that? But anyway if based on you finding, then this tire might still be suitable for me coz my car is also still soft even though already using TRD shocks & Tanabe springs with some UR bars.  laugh.gif  Currently on CSC5 fr/CSC3 rr and they barely squeal at all.  biggrin.gif
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tire pressure same as sdrive among the test which is 225kpa as I found the best on the s drive for this setting, didn't have much time to play around with this new tire.

how do i put in this? may be i should say it's not soft, but it's require softer rebound compared to s drive to put it in working state. Stiffer setting damper feel like the tire sidewall giving up much earlier and less grip. Now on softer you can feel its stick on the road and earlier higher instead.
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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 12:27 PM)
tire pressure same as sdrive among the test which is 225kpa as I found the best on the s drive for this setting, didn't have much time to play around with this new tire.

how do i put in this? may be i should say it's not soft, but it's require softer rebound compared to s drive to put it in working state. Stiffer setting damper feel like the tire sidewall giving up much earlier and less grip. Now on softer you can feel its stick on the road and earlier higher instead.
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Based on your summary, i conclude that the fleva v701 works best with standard damper setting either with standard or sports spring instead of sports/firm damper setting.
Am i correct?

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QUOTE(nzh0920 @ Feb 18 2017, 12:27 PM)
tire pressure same as sdrive among the test which is 225kpa as I found the best on the s drive for this setting, didn't have much time to play around with this new tire.

how do i put in this? may be i should say it's not soft, but it's require softer rebound compared to s drive to put it in working state. Stiffer setting damper feel like the tire sidewall giving up much earlier and less grip. Now on softer you can feel its stick on the road and earlier higher instead.
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Maybe next you can try with a higher tire pressure just to find out.

Even though you said your driving style pretty aggressive and don't need much run in, would appreciate if you update us again once you reach over 500km on this tire and let us know how are they, if they still stay the same as now or keep improving or what.
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post Feb 19 2017, 12:42 AM

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QUOTE(nagasie @ Feb 18 2017, 03:23 PM)
Based on your summary, i conclude that the fleva v701 works best with standard damper setting either with standard or sports spring instead of sports/firm damper setting.
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Lets just say that my earlier setting was too stiff for the tire. I won't say stock works better , as i try softer , its roll more and less grip, just need to find the right setting
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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Feb 18 2017, 11:47 PM)
Maybe next you can try with a higher tire pressure just to find out.

Even though you said your driving style pretty aggressive and don't need much run in, would appreciate if you update us again once you reach over 500km on this tire and let us know how are they, if they still stay the same as now or keep improving or what.
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Now on 300km mark, will update again, but obviously damper setting makes traction a lot different. Will try to play with air pressure
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post Feb 22 2017, 11:43 AM

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Personally I prefer lower air pressure. The tire shop filled my tires to 35psi. Handling was ok but I find it a bit scary. Lowered it to 32psi and definitely feel better.

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