lets see what will happen in Sachsenring this weekend..

Haha not that soon. Hopefully zulfahmi can come back to GP before he gets too old.

VR seems very happy with the updated chasis. MV I'm not sure because I think he doesn't have enough experience yet to run in those conditions. Even jl admitted he is not good in those conditions.

Well VR actually in general is pretty consistently competitive almost everywhere, but he's rarely the fastest on pure pace these days. MV maybe not as consistent in various conditions yet but absolutely fast in most normal dry condition. If that Assen race was pure dry/normal condition, VR will still have a tough task to beat MV. Also if MV had qualified better near the front, the result might be different but he's obviously still not as fast in the wet yet hence qualifying rather poorly. Anyway fantastic result in the end, not just because VR finally got a win this year but more because of the super tight point standing at the top! Hopefully next race time for DP and MM to strike back!

I agree, but on wet/drying/getting wet VR is still relatively good compared to the other aliens. I also want DP to close up on the points in the next races. What I like about the season so far is you are on the top in one race,the in the next you are fourth in the championship. I thought VR was out of the running last few races till I saw what the points difference actually were.

Well VR is good at riding at such changing conditions BUT sometimes his decision making on the timing to change to slick is not spot on hence backfired and he lost races that he should've won. That was the case that lost him the 2015 title.

Yeah very unpredictable which is fantastic! Next race in Germany is another MM favorite, he has been dominating there like he dominates the US GP. So that would be a good chance for him to cut the lead some more and make the point standing even tighter! Not sure about DP though, seem tough for him to win from MM in the next race. More realistically MM to win, then VR 2nd, MV 3rd, and Dovi 4th which will make the top 4 separated only by 2 pts!

Haha the way you describe dovi means he lost the mojo like rossi didi in 2015 then

Yeah, VR decision making in the rain needs to be improved
Dovi in 250 was nicknamed Mr consistency. He looks at the big picture which makes him look like a tame racer.

No lah, 4th out of the group of those fast riders is not that bad what!
Rossi did not lost his mojo in 2015, he just lost his temper with MM in Sepang and that got the better of him but he did not lost the title because of that, but he lost it due to wrong decision making (playing it too safe) during the changing conditions in San Marino race. He should've won that race or at least finished 2nd and that was enough to win him the title despite whatever happened after Sepang.

MV says the new chassis doesn't really suite his riding style yet while VR is pretty happy with it.
https://www.motorsport.com/motogp/news/vina...g-style-924809/

While the previous version, it did not suit VR riding style

Yup, so maybe MV would revert back to the older one if he still cannot make it work for him while VR continues with the new one. Looks like maybe Yamaha takes a lot of input from VR for the new chassis since he has been there for a long time, this is the challenge that MV needs to face. The other thing is they only have 1 new chassis for each rider hence if they need to change bikes in changing condition, they have to resort to a different/older one! That will be interesting.

Haha nice bring on the yoyo roller coaster😄😄👍👍

looks like it's gonna be another hard race again for yamaha & honda...

VR is struggling again in both dry & wet, looks like he might need to go thru Q1! MV was fast in the dry so looks like he will still go straight to Q2 but in the wet he's also slow and the race might be in the wet/changing condition. Zarco also struggled and crashed once in the wet yesterday.

Honda though actually looks the strongest! MM & DP were very fast in the wet so if the race continues in similar condition, these 2 should be strong favorites. Dovi & Petrucci on the Ducs also look pretty good yesterday in the wet.

Riders going directly to Qualifying 2 - Top 10 Combined Practice Times:
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)
2. Maverick Vinales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)
3. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)*
4. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)
5. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V)
6. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1)
7. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)
8. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17)
9. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V)
10. Alvaro Bautista ESP Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16)

Qualifying result:

Qualifying 2:
1. Marc Marquez ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 27.302s [Lap 10/10] 274km/h (Top Speed)
2. Danilo Petrucci ITA Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 27.462s +0.160s [5/10] 284km/h
3. Dani Pedrosa ESP Repsol Honda Team (RC213V) 1m 27.949s +0.647s [5/10] 267km/h
4. Cal Crutchlow GBR LCR Honda (RC213V) 1m 28.089s +0.787s [7/10] 282km/h
5. Jonas Folger GER Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 28.210s +0.908s [8/10] 278km/h
6. Jorge Lorenzo ESP Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 28.383s +1.081s [8/11] 280km/h
7. Pol Espargaro ESP Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 28.402s +1.100s [7/10] 275km/h
8. Aleix Espargaro ESP Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP) 1m 28.526s +1.224s [10/10] 279km/h
9. Valentino Rossi ITA Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 28.669s +1.367s [9/9] 280km/h
10. Andrea Dovizioso ITA Ducati Team (Desmosedici GP17) 1m 28.703s +1.401s [8/10] 282km/h
11. Maverick Viñales ESP Movistar Yamaha MotoGP (YZR-M1) 1m 28.823s +1.521s [7/10] 281km/h
12. Alvaro Bautista ESP Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 28.968s +1.666s [9/10] 277km/h

Qualifying 1:
13. Jack Miller AUS Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 27.967s 280km/h
14. Loris Baz FRA Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 27.979s 280km/h
15. Bradley Smith GBR Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 28.015s 278km/h
16. Andrea Iannone ITA Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR) 1m 28.103s 281km/h
17. Mika Kallio FIN Red Bull KTM Factory Racing (RC16) 1m 28.285s 274km/h
18. Hector Barbera ESP Reale Avintia Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 28.404s 276km/h
19. Johann Zarco FRA Monster Yamaha Tech 3 (YZR-M1)* 1m 28.444s 280km/h
20. Karel Abraham CZE Pull&Bear Aspar Team (Desmosedici GP15) 1m 28.625s 280km/h
21. Sam Lowes GBR Factory Aprilia Gresini (RS-GP)* 1m 28.659s 278km/h
22. Alex Rins ESP Team Suzuki Ecstar (GSX-RR)* 1m 29.504s 281km/h
23. Scott Redding GBR Octo Pramac Racing (Desmosedici GP16) 1m 29.578s 275km/h
24. Tito Rabat ESP Estrella Galicia 0,0 Marc VDS (RC213V) 1m 30.028s 277km/h

As expected, MM got another pole here and DP is also competitive. Looks like a great chance for MM & DP to catch up in the points as the top 3 are struggling in 9-11 grid. Surprising that Dovi got beaten by JLo this time in such condition. Zarco is also really struggling, got out qualified so comprehensively by Folger.

Lol.

Expected factory Yamaha to suffer here, but suddenly the results is not so bad for them.

One thing for sure, the bikes has no problem in the dry.

This post has been edited by ciwi1166: Jul 2 2017, 08:46 PM

Suddenly MV can handle new chassis better than VR. Started behind but able to catch up and finish in front of him.