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TSAydee
post Sep 24 2019, 08:59 AM

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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Sep 23 2019, 09:11 AM)
hs55 finish last.
even behind oku rider lorenzo.
bye bye motogp ride
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Sep 23 2019, 09:13 AM)
he is far better when he was with yamaha. the moment tech3 moved to ktm, gg.
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QUOTE(^pomen_GTR^ @ Sep 23 2019, 05:37 PM)
actually middle of the race he infront of lorenzo and set to catching up with mika kalio....

then out of blue he overshot into gravel and finished last...

the ducs suprised me with 2podium...good for dovi and keep his motivation high...
on side note... singapore f1 also have interesting finish with ferrari 1-2...just that i wish leklek was the winner (because he was leading from beginning) and hamilton was off the podium
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I saw shots of him battling with Lorenzo,Karel Abraham and Bradley Smith. He was ahead of the group for a few laps. Maybe a mistake towards the end got him last. On a positive note he battled to the end and finished the race.
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post Sep 24 2019, 11:57 AM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Sep 24 2019, 08:54 AM)
Still 1 more season in contract. Still doing better than most in my opinion, and he is a crowd puller.
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He needs at least to beat MV total points at the end of the season. Now he is often the slowest or second slowest M1.
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post Sep 24 2019, 12:26 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 24 2019, 11:57 AM)
He needs at least to beat MV total points at the end of the season. Now he is often the slowest or second slowest M1.
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Second slowest or slowest M1 is still acceptable to me as long as no Ducati,Aprilia,Suzuki,Honda,KTM in between him and the next M1 ahead laugh.gif . Of course inter-M1 battles he is losing now but no reason to retire yet.
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post Sep 24 2019, 02:16 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Sep 24 2019, 12:26 PM)
Second slowest or slowest M1 is still acceptable to me as long as no Ducati,Aprilia,Suzuki,Honda,KTM in between him and the next M1 ahead laugh.gif . Of course inter-M1 battles he is losing now but no reason to retire yet.
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But the fact is sometimes got other bikes too in between. The fact that he is already on the slower side of the M1 squad also suggested there are already better options for his seat. I think if at the end of the year he is also beaten in the points by FQ then sign of time to retire. It's better to retire while still relatively in reasonable shape than retire when got beaten badly.
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post Sep 24 2019, 03:54 PM

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QUOTE(NinjaGaiden @ Sep 23 2019, 10:14 AM)
Duc/Honda riders no need to fight hard to overtake yamaha/suzuki riders...Just drive fast on straight....

As long as Yamaha/suzuki still use inline 4 instead of V4, they can say goodbye to motogp championship...
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I don't think engine configuration is the problem, Yamaha still won championships with inline-4. It's just Ducati & Honda progressed far ahead (in electronics) & Yamaha were left behind. Only recently they hired someone from Magneti Marelli solve the problems (Ducati, Honda & probably Suzuki already hired the best MM technician ages ago).

Changing to V4 isn't the solution either. V4 is just fast on the straights but inline-4 still have the best handling (Yamaha used to be this but now Suzuki has overtaken them in bike development). Both have their own pros & cons.
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post Sep 24 2019, 05:14 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Sep 24 2019, 02:16 PM)
But the fact is sometimes got other bikes too in between. The fact that he is already on the slower  side of the M1 squad also suggested there are already better options for his seat. I think if at the end of the year he is also beaten in the points by FQ then sign of time to retire. It's better to retire while still relatively in reasonable shape than retire when got beaten badly.
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Somewhat true. Best to retire at your peak instead at low point. Now he is 6th and 10 points below MV, if he can get closer or overtake MV and keep FQ behind him in the points would be good for him. No doubt Yamaha wants FQ to be in the factory team soon but I still don't understand how Yamaha rookies can go fast on year old bikes compared to current bikes. Every year they said the new bike is better but older bikes seem to do it well(case in point Morbidelli(new bike),FQ(old bike)).
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post Sep 24 2019, 05:52 PM

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QUOTE(Aydee @ Sep 24 2019, 05:14 PM)
Somewhat true. Best to retire at your peak instead at low point. Now he is 6th and 10 points below MV, if he can get closer or overtake MV and keep FQ behind him in the points would be good for him. No doubt Yamaha wants FQ to be in the factory team soon but I still don't understand how Yamaha rookies can go fast on year old bikes compared to current bikes. Every year they said the new bike is better but older bikes seem to do it well(case in point Morbidelli(new bike),FQ(old bike)).
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Have VR and MV retested comparison with the old bike like FQ one? Coz maybe development goes to wrong direction but in smaller increments hence the riders also not realizing it. Similar case to Haas in F1 where they went back to Aussie spec car, also Ferrari last year after mid season.
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post Sep 25 2019, 09:27 AM

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QUOTE(RalphRatedR @ Sep 24 2019, 03:54 PM)
I don't think engine configuration is the problem, Yamaha still won championships with inline-4. It's just Ducati & Honda progressed far ahead (in electronics) & Yamaha were left behind. Only recently they hired someone from Magneti Marelli solve the problems (Ducati, Honda & probably Suzuki already hired the best MM technician ages ago).

Changing to V4 isn't the solution either. V4 is just fast on the straights but inline-4 still have the best handling (Yamaha used to be this but now Suzuki has overtaken them in bike development). Both have their own pros & cons.
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actually i still think is engine config...

u remember yamaha boasting about crossplane crankshaft setup...

and see yamaha R1 roadbike using the same setup...


the good side is they have loads of toque at midrange rpm..pretty much like ducati roadbike vtwin advantage (and disadvantage with lower high rpm peak power a.k.a topspeed) and that was yamaha stength in corner back then...


and when motogp switch tyre to diff manufacturer (and different compount) then their performance falls flat...


that massive torque backfire them eating tyre edge like no tomorrow...



suzuki use flatplane crankshaft...so their performance is more average...


last year i think they still can drafting honda at some occasion... but this year....duc and honda runaway brows.gif brows.gif brows.gif
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post Sep 25 2019, 08:59 PM

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There is hope for yamaha to comeback up top

https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/opinion/...gp-s-brains-war
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post Sep 26 2019, 03:44 AM

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motogp is all about grabbing engineers now..biggrin.gif
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post Sep 29 2019, 01:33 PM

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Haha interesting laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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post Sep 30 2019, 11:53 AM

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... and rea win the 2019 championship ........

Huh?! thats it?! bautista mana?? semua harapan palsu..!! tongue.gif tongue.gif tongue.gif

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post Oct 5 2019, 09:32 AM

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So quiet here nobody watching Marc Marquez championship this weekend?
BTW, he got nasty high sided fall on FP1 but still business as usual on FP2
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post Oct 5 2019, 03:25 PM

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QUOTE(voscar @ Oct 5 2019, 09:32 AM)
So quiet here nobody watching Marc Marquez championship this weekend?
BTW, he got nasty high sided fall on FP1 but still business as usual on FP2
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only interested in race day...biggrin.gif

qualifying does not decide anything laugh.gif
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post Oct 5 2019, 04:07 PM

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Amazing pole lap again from FQ, this kid is really fast. And again VR is the slowest M1 unfortunately. He is really falling g off the cliff now, keep getting beaten by his younger team mates.
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post Oct 5 2019, 04:34 PM

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FQ has some searing pace in qualifying. If he manages to have consistently good race pace, he’ll be challenging for several race wins in the future
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post Oct 5 2019, 05:27 PM

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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Oct 5 2019, 04:34 PM)
FQ has some searing pace in qualifying. If he manages to have consistently good race pace, he’ll be challenging for several race wins in the future
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he would've already won a few races if without the Yamaha imposed rev limiter!
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post Oct 5 2019, 07:33 PM

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OK now they granted more rpms for Quartararo, let's see if he could win all the remaining races this season.
https://www.crash.net/motogp/news/930717/1/...le-more-rpm?amp
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post Oct 6 2019, 01:10 PM

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Looks like MM vs M1 guys again.
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post Oct 6 2019, 02:36 PM

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QUOTE(6UE5T @ Oct 6 2019, 01:10 PM)
Looks like MM vs M1 guys again.
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will MM take his 6th motogp champion today? 😆

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