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jaykay4540
post Feb 19 2018, 02:47 PM

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tech3 team hinted that HS will test the bike again on final testing at Qatar.

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post Feb 19 2018, 02:49 PM

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hopefully he can adapt with the bike and follow zarco's footsteps
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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Feb 19 2018, 03:47 PM)
tech3 team hinted that HS will test the bike again on final testing at Qatar.
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hopefully HS55 will perform better. i was expected him ride 10-15 pos. his pace quite slow by use tech 3 bike.
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Feb 19 2018, 02:50 PM)
hopefully HS55 will perform better. i was expected him ride 10-15 pos. his pace quite slow by use tech 3 bike.
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ya he is 2-3sec off pace than zarco..hope he can improve fast. atleast need to equal with team mate
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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ Feb 19 2018, 03:59 PM)
ya he is 2-3sec off pace than zarco..hope he can improve fast. atleast need to equal with team mate
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it quite impossible to match zarco pace but at least he can show something to tech 3 team. tech 3 is really competitive bike last season. it give zarco couple podium and shot. so HS55 must use this opportunity to show his skills. i can see Nakagami, MORBIDELLI & alex rins doing well with motogp test.

after that down to sponsorship which whoever bring more money will get a seat. so i hope hong leong yamaha will give sponsorship to HS55 for sake of marketing is South Asian.
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QUOTE(jaykay4540 @ Feb 19 2018, 02:47 PM)
tech3 team hinted that HS will test the bike again on final testing at Qatar.
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This means confirmed lah. No way to get another rider at last minute.

QUOTE(NyOx @ Feb 19 2018, 02:50 PM)
hopefully HS55 will perform better. i was expected him ride 10-15 pos. his pace quite slow by use tech 3 bike.
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QUOTE(Lion Cut @ Feb 19 2018, 02:59 PM)
ya he is 2-3sec off pace than zarco..hope he can improve fast. atleast need to equal with team mate
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QUOTE(NyOx @ Feb 19 2018, 03:07 PM)
it quite impossible to match zarco pace but at least he can show something to tech 3 team. tech 3 is really competitive bike last season. it give zarco couple podium and shot. so HS55 must use this opportunity to show his skills. i can see Nakagami, MORBIDELLI & alex rins doing well with motogp test.

after that down to sponsorship which whoever bring more money will get a seat. so i hope hong leong yamaha will give sponsorship to HS55 for sake of marketing is South Asian.
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He can't match Zarco yet. It's his first ride on the bike, he needs to adjust ride position, riding style, footpegs, seats etc. But considering where he is, he has done a very god job. His aim is not to go fast but familiarise with the bike, tyres, electronics what not. Also being faster than a factory bike on your first test is still impressive. I actually expected him to remain last on the timesheets on this test because he is really really fresh. If you compare to the test riders who was also in the bottom half in the last tests, it looks pretty good for him. He also mentioned he did not follow anyone during the tests so his pace is purely on himself. Imagine he follows one of the experienced riders and learn their style, strengths and weaknesses, he could be further up the grid.
But then again this is just a test. Jonas Folger was faster than Zarco during last year's test but during raceday he was way off.

Can't wait for the first race!
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post Feb 19 2018, 04:35 PM

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sorry to say..but HS55 to go up same level with ZARCO its just ridiculous opinion..
ZARCO much better on Moto2 record cmpare to HS55..
but for sure HS55 will need more n more time fr that..
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Looks like Yamaha in trouble
http://www.crash.net/motogp/news/889834/1/...rst-test-yamaha
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post Feb 20 2018, 02:37 PM

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what problem actually on YZF M1 ???
come dscuss it and find it for tech eng YMHA.. haha

MotoGP: Vinales: 'By a long way the worst’ test for Yamaha






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18 Feb 2018
Maverick Viñales feels the three-day test in Buriram outdoes Sepang as his worst test in Yamaha colours; feels his pace is ‘horrible’.

MotoGP: Vinales: ‘By a long way the worst’ test for Yamaha

Maverick Viñales labeled the three-day MotoGP test in Thailand as the worst he has experienced since moving to Yamaha at the close of 2016, as the Catalan toiled once more on the final day, leaving him perplexed, dazed and in need of answers.

Any optimism that was founded late on Saturday afternoon soon made way for further frustration, with Viñales unable to offer up any explanation for his lack of speed. What should be the run up to a title challenge is quickly turning into a series of outings to forget.

The 23-year old’s speed was far from disastrous – he ended the three days eighth overall, 0.493s back of pace setter Dani Pedrosa – but the warnings that sounded two weeks ago at Sepang were ringing loud and clear here.


Viñales was unable to feel comfortable at any point other than late into the second day when the fitting of a new tyre brought about some temporary respite from the toil. His pace on Sunday was, in his own words “horrible” and with less than a month until the first race, Yamaha faces a fight against time to uncover the root of this long-standing issue.

On Sunday afternoon, Viñales even admitted he had been trying the 2016 chassis - used by Johann Zarco, second fastest and one of only three riders to lap the 2.8-mile Chang International Circuit in the 1m 29s - to understand the nature of the Frenchman’s speed aboard a satellite machine.


Like the second half of 2017, the ex-Moto3 world champion was left dejected and shrugging his shoulders. “We are working on our side, and we have the same problems from six months ago,” he said. “So honestly, I don't know.”

“Today we were struggling much more than yesterday,” said Viñales. “I thought we had the solution, but finally not. So we have to continue working, as I said always. I have been saying for a long time we have to continue trying to find out where the problem is.

“Honestly I don't know [what the problem is], because we tried everything, and nothing works, so we have to continue working. It's difficult right now, it's a difficult point, because some other Yamahas are working quite well, and we are struggling as a factory team, so I don't know. I don't know what to say. It's difficult.”

Asked what in particular was so lacking in performance, Viñales couldn’t pinpoint any area in particular. “All areas," he said. "We are missing a little bit in all areas. But what we do is try to do laps, and just be objective and give an explanation every time I try a new setup.”

Would he consider this his worst outing as a Yamaha rider? “For me, yes,” came the terse reply. “By a long way it's the worst. Even Malaysia, for me that was the worst one [since] I've been in Yamaha, and then today it's even worse.”

The truly confusing manner of the factory team's struggles stems from the continually differing feedback offered up by its riders. On Friday Viñales explained how he struggled to enter the corner as he wanted, while Rossi felt the electronics package was at fault.

A day later and Viñales said Yamaha’s 2018 engine was too docile for his style when in conversation with the Spanish media, and Rossi used Sunday’s debrief to add a new thought to the list: tyres, and the M1’s vicious reaction to them.

From a distance, it appeared the riders and technicians were at as much of a loss to explain the whole affair as the observers looking in.

On Saturday, Viñales had sounded defiant, claiming he needed to “follow my own feelings and my own set-up. That’s when I feel good” – words that suggest he has been frustrated by development and set-up direction over the off-season.

Asked whether he aimed to continue this tactic at the next test in Qatar less than two weeks away, he said, “Yes, for sure! For sure we will continue. But I don't think the problem is in the garage, it's something more. Because we tried everything on the bike - everything. Set-ups that last year we were never going to try, because it was impossible for them to work.

“Honestly, Yamaha has to work, has to realise we have a problem, and have to put the work. As a rider, physically I'm 100%, I'm concentrated, when the bike is there, I can do a good lap, good rhythm, I just give my best every time I go on the track.”

So what has he requested from the factory? “My request is to have the bike I rode the first time I rode the Yamaha,” he said. “To have this feeling. I just jumped on the Yamaha, and it was a totally different feeling to right now.”
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post Feb 20 2018, 03:31 PM

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lol gonna be 2017 all over again for yamaha...
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QUOTE(amar_arifin @ Feb 20 2018, 02:37 PM)
what problem actually on YZF M1 ???
come dscuss it and find it for tech eng YMHA.. haha

MotoGP: Vinales: 'By a long way the worst’ test for Yamaha






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Neil Morrison
18 Feb 2018
Maverick Viñales feels the three-day test in Buriram outdoes Sepang as his worst test in Yamaha colours; feels his pace is ‘horrible’.

MotoGP: Vinales: ‘By a long way the worst’ test for Yamaha

Maverick Viñales labeled the three-day MotoGP test in Thailand as the worst he has experienced since moving to Yamaha at the close of 2016, as the Catalan toiled once more on the final day, leaving him perplexed, dazed and in need of answers.

Any optimism that was founded late on Saturday afternoon soon made way for further frustration, with Viñales unable to offer up any explanation for his lack of speed. What should be the run up to a title challenge is quickly turning into a series of outings to forget.

The 23-year old’s speed was far from disastrous – he ended the three days eighth overall, 0.493s back of pace setter Dani Pedrosa – but the warnings that sounded two weeks ago at Sepang were ringing loud and clear here.
Viñales was unable to feel comfortable at any point other than late into the second day when the fitting of a new tyre brought about some temporary respite from the toil. His pace on Sunday was, in his own words “horrible” and with less than a month until the first race, Yamaha faces a fight against time to uncover the root of this long-standing issue.

On Sunday afternoon, Viñales even admitted he had been trying the 2016 chassis - used by Johann Zarco, second fastest and one of only three riders to lap the 2.8-mile Chang International Circuit in the 1m 29s - to understand the nature of the Frenchman’s speed aboard a satellite machine.
Like the second half of 2017, the ex-Moto3 world champion was left dejected and shrugging his shoulders. “We are working on our side, and we have the same problems from six months ago,” he said. “So honestly, I don't know.”

“Today we were struggling much more than yesterday,” said Viñales. “I thought we had the solution, but finally not. So we have to continue working, as I said always. I have been saying for a long time we have to continue trying to find out where the problem is.

“Honestly I don't know [what the problem is], because we tried everything, and nothing works, so we have to continue working. It's difficult right now, it's a difficult point, because some other Yamahas are working quite well, and we are struggling as a factory team, so I don't know. I don't know what to say. It's difficult.”

Asked what in particular was so lacking in performance, Viñales couldn’t pinpoint any area in particular. “All areas," he said. "We are missing a little bit in all areas. But what we do is try to do laps, and just be objective and give an explanation every time I try a new setup.”

Would he consider this his worst outing as a Yamaha rider? “For me, yes,” came the terse reply. “By a long way it's the worst. Even Malaysia, for me that was the worst one [since] I've been in Yamaha, and then today it's even worse.”

The truly confusing manner of the factory team's struggles stems from the continually differing feedback offered up by its riders. On Friday Viñales explained how he struggled to enter the corner as he wanted, while Rossi felt the electronics package was at fault.

A day later and Viñales said Yamaha’s 2018 engine was too docile for his style when in conversation with the Spanish media, and Rossi used Sunday’s debrief to add a new thought to the list: tyres, and the M1’s vicious reaction to them.

From a distance, it appeared the riders and technicians were at as much of a loss to explain the whole affair as the observers looking in.

On Saturday, Viñales had sounded defiant, claiming he needed to “follow my own feelings and my own set-up. That’s when I feel good” – words that suggest he has been frustrated by development and set-up direction over the off-season.

Asked whether he aimed to continue this tactic at the next test in Qatar less than two weeks away, he said, “Yes, for sure! For sure we will continue. But I don't think the problem is in the garage, it's something more. Because we tried everything on the bike - everything. Set-ups that last year we were never going to try, because it was impossible for them to work.

“Honestly, Yamaha has to work, has to realise we have a problem, and have to put the work. As a rider, physically I'm 100%, I'm concentrated, when the bike is there, I can do a good lap, good rhythm, I just give my best every time I go on the track.”

So what has he requested from the factory? “My request is to have the bike I rode the first time I rode the Yamaha,” he said. “To have this feeling. I just jumped on the Yamaha, and it was a totally different feeling to right now.”
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Feb 20 2018, 03:31 PM)
lol gonna be 2017 all over again for yamaha...
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But then again, this year they might actually be sandbagging again. Who knows? Vinales finally learning psychological tactics from Rossi innocent.gif
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post Feb 21 2018, 01:31 PM

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even tech engineer yamaha also cant find a single root cause... haha..


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It's official now

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/02/20/s...-in-2018/250389

It'd be nice to see him consistently scoring points once he manages to learn to ride the bike well.

This post has been edited by 8sg9ft: Feb 21 2018, 04:33 PM
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 21 2018, 04:32 PM)
It's official now

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/02/20/s...-in-2018/250389

It'd be nice to see him consistently scoring points once he manages to learn to ride the bike well.
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Woohoo! rclxms.gif
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Better fast buy ticket for moto gp this year lol..sure sold out.. 55 flag will dominate SIC. biggrin.gif
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QUOTE(8sg9ft @ Feb 21 2018, 05:32 PM)
It's official now

http://www.motogp.com/en/news/2018/02/20/s...-in-2018/250389

It'd be nice to see him consistently scoring points once he manages to learn to ride the bike well.
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woowwww congrats HS55 !!! look forward 2018 motogp. support our local product !!!
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QUOTE(s|dE @ Feb 21 2018, 05:34 PM)
Better fast buy ticket for moto gp this year lol..sure sold out.. 55 flag will dominate SIC. biggrin.gif
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This is so true.
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Haha great

Sepang motogp sale higher than F1 sepang easily laugh.gif rclxms.gif
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QUOTE(ciwi1166 @ Feb 20 2018, 03:31 PM)
lol gonna be 2017 all over again for yamaha...
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No problem, let MM come in and ride the limits out of it would do. biggrin.gif
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