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Andrewtst
post Sep 9 2016, 01:41 AM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 9 2016, 01:12 AM)
good article to read
iPhone 7 or 7 Plus to buy
seriously zoom not useful in daily
btw what is bokeh effect ? I do google it don't know what it talking about
summoning sifu Andrewtst help explaining tqvm biggrin.gif
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Zoom is extreme useful as sometimes we want capture the thing where possible we can't reach the destination to get it.

Optical Zoom is hardware zoom which can maintaining as clear as without zoom. Digital zoom wise is software simulation zoom.

The iPhone 7 Plus after 2x optical zoom is move to digital zoom, this is no choice, else the camera will be superb long, they can archive 2x optical zoom already is something really great.

Read this for bokeh explanation, in short summary blurring the background to stunning out the focus object - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bokeh - this is where the most people love it as it just simply look beautiful where human eye can't really see it. Bokeh in previous only DSLR can archive it but now mobile also can get similar result but is a mixed of hardware + software, not like DLSR which is purely hardware by lens where bigger aperture lens can generate much extreme feel of bokeh effect, or another way to get it is using telephoto lens which having a big optical zoom.

iPhone 7 Plus second camera is a telephoto lens which have 2x optical zoom, in general it can't really can get outstanding bokeh effect, that the reason why some software simulation is involved, but at least it still got 2x optical zoom, with it smart ISP calculation (software simulation), thus it can produce a nice look bokeh effect.

In another word, Bokeh effect is where the lens produce a shallow depth of field (DOF) - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Depth_of_field, which means the background is blur and only the focus object is clear. It can archive in two way, a very big aperture lens or very big optical zoom telephoto lens. Combination of two can get something extreme shallow DOF. Mobile wise often involved with some software to emulate out due to it limitation where impossible to put something that big lenses in mobile.

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 9 2016, 02:06 AM)
the 2nd camera other than 2x optical zoom, for that bokeh effect we also can use apps to get it right ??
optical zoom is a plus for me, but not really needed in daily life hmm.gif (is useful when taking artist photo) laugh.gif
still waiting the camera comparison between 2 of them
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Bokeh effect can get using software but it is not as nice as real hardware. Of course the iPhone 7 plus is not pure hardware also, it is a mixture of software, but from the sample it is nicely well done.

You can get extremely nice bokeh effect if your photoshop skill is extremely great.

Optical zoom is so useful when you take some scenery, for example you seen a nice statue across the river, without zoom you can't get it. Or maybe bird / airplane fly on the sky, or as you said taking artist - a portrait photo can get great result when using zoom as this can get a shallow DOF, it also reduce the human unnatural feel as human normally act unnatural when the camera is position too front of human.

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This is sample to demostrate what is bokeh.

Telephoto lens can generate outstanding shallow DOF photo. This is only capable in DSLR previously, now using software calculation + capable hardware, mobile can get similar result as well but off course it can't as nice as like what DLSR did. What cool Apple did is it make this possible to portrait photo with so shallow DOF, none of mobile camera in market now able to do such to portrait photo (required telephoto lens) but only able to do on very closed macro photo (a big aperture lens).
  • iPhone 7 - big aperture wide-angle f/1.8 lens - can get very bright photo and help in dark and night shoot, a wide view of nice scenery photo and also extreme bokeh effect macro photo.
  • iPhone 7 Plus - beside above capability, second lens is f/2.8 telephoto lens - can closed up far object and also shallow DOF portrait photo.

Below is Dual Lens selection by manufacturer, 2nd lens is specific for special output photo.
  • LG - Big Aperture f/1.8 Lens + Extreme Wide-Angle Lens (2nd lens let you take extremely Wide-Angle up to 135 degree wide view photo)
  • Huawei - Aperture f/2.2 Lens + Real Black & White sensor Lens (2nd lens let you take a pure hardware capture black & white photo)
  • Apple - Big Aperture f/1.8 Wide-Angle Lens + 2x Optical Telephoto Lens (2nd lens let you closed up far object, and also shallow DOF portrait photo)
** If got manufacturer put in 4 camera lens (bit aperture wide-angle lens, telephoto lens, black & white sensor lens, extreme wide-angle lens), then everything can be capture already, haha!

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post Sep 9 2016, 09:01 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 9 2016, 03:24 PM)
wow nice explanation
why you make me want jump to 7 Plus laugh.gif
but still need to wait review and test unit before purchasing biggrin.gif
no matter how we use the phone, every phone definitely got scratches
off course less scratches is better lar
either going silver, rose gold or jet black hmm.gif
I will go for 128gb as I plan to use the iPhone at least 2 years
as nowadays apps size, photo size and even OS sizes getting bigger and bigger
yet I love to take photo and listen music (spotify premium download offline) + offline music that I store in my computer
based on those usage I mention, 32gb should be fine but if I use longer than 2 years then I think 32gb is not enough, hence better go for 128gb
unless Apple release 64gb whistling.gif
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Haha! my friend already pre-order iPhone 7 Plus Jet Black.
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post Sep 9 2016, 09:21 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 9 2016, 09:09 PM)
from SG ??
I will wait for Malaysia official release, not urgent icon_rolleyes.gif
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Yalo, he work at SG. The Jet Black a lot people buy, the time he preorder is already need to wait 4 to 6 weeks. The time he told me already need to wait until November where others color still 2 to 3 weeks.
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post Sep 9 2016, 09:45 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 9 2016, 09:24 PM)
then is better go queue up and buy from stores at next Friday laugh.gif
by the time wait until November, Malaysia already selling whistling.gif
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Hahaha. His one is 4 to 6 weeks. Actually also near to Nov.

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post Sep 10 2016, 02:32 AM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 10 2016, 02:06 AM)
maybe got miracle appears can get early laugh.gif
fixed
how you send to claim warranty ??
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Now I dunno pick Jet Black or Black....
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post Sep 10 2016, 12:40 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 10 2016, 03:02 AM)
wait and test the demo unit only decide biggrin.gif
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Yaya

QUOTE(yattnana @ Sep 10 2016, 09:19 AM)
jet black is basically piano glossy like 3gs right?
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Different material construct and the way it shine.
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post Sep 10 2016, 12:41 PM

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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 10 2016, 12:32 PM)
which means we are in 3rd wave hmm.gif ??
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Normally Malaysia in last wave (3rd wave is last wave)

This time also as Malaysia already not in 1st and 2nd wave.
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post Sep 10 2016, 12:42 PM

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QUOTE(barneyong3300 @ Sep 10 2016, 11:58 AM)
Malaysia will pre order on end of sep ,and can get the phone on mid oct.
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Really? Malaysia already official not in 2nd wave list announcing.
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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 10 2016, 12:59 PM)
cannot be rm100 or rm200. I'm expecting it's around rm500 more including dealers profit margin.
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More RM 500? Impossible la. If yes.

I buy at Singapore.
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post Sep 10 2016, 01:07 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 10 2016, 01:04 PM)
they will give weak MYR as excuses.

and maybe GST too  bangwall.gif
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I believe will extra RM 300 at max. Probably be around RM 200.
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post Sep 11 2016, 06:13 AM

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QUOTE(clawhammer @ Sep 11 2016, 12:38 AM)
Can't you buy those from 6S? It's the same size anyway.
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It is different and not working especially for the 7 Plus.
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post Sep 12 2016, 10:53 PM

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QUOTE(1234kingbling @ Sep 12 2016, 07:47 PM)
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Can a Merz/ BMW / Audi / Honda / Toyota outperform a Proton? Yes. So we buy it.
Can other phones with similar specs outperform an iphone?ย  hmm.gifย  hmm.gif

So its loyalty to brand?
Actually used an Iphone 6s.  innocent.gif
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It is not necessary must outperform to others. They got it own value.

Same as some people lover branded clothes and beg but at the end it still a clothes and beg.
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QUOTE(Boykidz93 @ Sep 12 2016, 01:35 AM)
Matte black looks great! but still gonna get Jet Black! vmad.gif
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Black is nice also but I decide get Jet Black already.
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QUOTE(dragna @ Sep 12 2016, 02:17 AM)
With casing then the showcase of the phone is gone. From the looks it's pretty much similar to the S7 finishing.
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Just use transparent case. smile.gif
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post Sep 13 2016, 08:12 PM

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QUOTE(silencer5089 @ Sep 13 2016, 06:39 PM)
another unboxing photo, this time in taiwan. both the matte and jet black

http://www.mobile01.com/topicdetail.php?f=383&t=4921274
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Awesome unboxing, the camera photo at 5x digital zoom still look fantastic!

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post Sep 14 2016, 12:14 AM

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QUOTE(DeepMemory @ Sep 13 2016, 09:46 PM)
Was hoping to take a day trip to Singapore to purchase the iPhone 7. Any idea when I should go and which reseller I can visit to get my hands on it?
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Check below few site before going. smile.gif but don't expect they selling same price, normally more higher if the unit is hot. I will wait a while, probably only Oct or Nov just buy. smile.gif
- http://www.whymobile.com/home.php
- http://mobilesquare.com.sg/en/
- http://redwhitemobile.com/

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post Sep 14 2016, 01:39 AM

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Get ready for iPhone 7 Plus. ๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š๐Ÿ˜Š

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Why I decide for iPhone 7 Plus.
  • Dual Camera and it is wide angle and 2x optical zoom! The best combination so far. ๐Ÿ“ท๐Ÿ“ท๐Ÿ“ท
  • The Jet Black make my heart melt. ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  • 7 is my lucky number! iPhone 7 Plus will be my LUCKY PHONE. ๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜๐Ÿ˜
  • The new processor and GPU is unbeatable! wow! No one can win even the Snapdragon 820.
  • Finally iPhone 7 Plus had more than 2GB RAM, it is 3GB! (even though Android already 4GB to 6GB) but 3GB pretty enough in iOS. ๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰๐Ÿ˜‰
  • iOS - iMessage simply the most awesome messenger apps, those sticker just simply awesome and you can place anywhere you want inside the iMessage.
  • Apple make the definitely correct movement where nobody did! by change the 64GB to 128GB but same price as previous! ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿ‘
  • Wide Gamut Display, which means will be much vibrant and life like display.
  • The AirPods is damn cool, it is a normal bluetooth device but Apple make it SMART!
  • iOS is more open now, not as closed as last time. Is time taste iOS. ๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜๐Ÿ˜˜


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QUOTE(silencer5089 @ Sep 14 2016, 01:51 AM)
Welcome to the club bro. ๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป๐Ÿ‘๐Ÿป
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Thanks, smile.gif Joining soon.
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QUOTE(XeactorZ @ Sep 14 2016, 10:16 AM)
wow so fast order the case
hope iPhone 7 reach Malaysian market ASAP thumbup.gif
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Yaya, I want immediate put in case once get.

QUOTE(vez @ Sep 14 2016, 12:14 PM)
buy from ebay is cheaper, same seller from spigen, they have Official Spigenยฎ eBay Store and called spigen_inc smile.gif
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I actually forgotten eBay, I only check Amazon and Spigen official site yesterday. Thanks for highlight back, too long never buy online since bad currency.

QUOTE(junclj @ Sep 14 2016, 05:05 PM)
If I were you, I will not order from that website. You items confirm lost. I was lost mine before, about 4 years ago when I order iPhone 5 casing from Spigen website. My items will never arrive.

I will order from Tmall, I'm using wiwaa.com forwarding service. Cheap, safe, fast and 100% ori.
https://detail.tmall.com/item.htm?spm=a230r...d=3215335440545
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I buy before item arrived, actually purchase from overseas is a risk sometimes. If really lost then next time I go buy at Singapore shop, wished it came safe.

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