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post Sep 7 2016, 10:04 PM

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If the intention is going from Fund A to Fund B, there is no need for CMF. You just do a switch.

Fund A to Fund B is inter-fund switch if A and B are from different Fund Houses (fees will be like buying new funds)

Fund A to Fund B is intra-fund switch for same Fund House (switching fees may apply depending on Fund House)

There is no CMF2 involved.

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post Sep 7 2016, 10:06 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 7 2016, 09:51 PM)
It won't be in a single transaction.

It needs 4 transactions to happen.

Transaction 1: Switch sell of Fund A to CMF
Transaction 2: Buy CMF
Transaction 3: Switch sell of CMF
Transaction 4: Buy Fund B

You need to have "units" in CMF first before you can buy or top up a fund if you choose to pay using CMF.

Also do take note on the "cut off" time of each transaction.
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The steps are wrong.

You can go direct from Fund A to Fund B.

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post Sep 7 2016, 10:09 PM

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QUOTE(David83 @ Sep 7 2016, 09:52 PM)
It acts like a trust account in the normal trading platform.
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No, wrong.

If you are trading, you don't need it. See my previous comments.

It is for "parking" while you are deciding which Fund B to buy.
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post Sep 7 2016, 10:12 PM

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QUOTE(thesoothsayer @ Sep 7 2016, 10:08 PM)
Only within the same fund management group, right?

Anyway, thanks everyone for the replies.
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Within the same fund management group (or Fund House), it is known as "intra".

With different fund management groups (or Fund House), it is known as "inter".

Either way, no CMF2 is required.

PS: The only difference between "inter" and "intra" is the costs (fees and credits) involved. The FSM websites explains this well.

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post Sep 7 2016, 10:47 PM

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Just a note that if you have funds from other non-FSM fund houses, you can also "switch" to FSM for zero costs.

Just sell your say, Public Mutual fund, email your PM redemption slip to FSM, and you can buy the equivalent amount of FSM fund for Zero sales charge.

No, I don't work for FSM, thanks.
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post Sep 22 2016, 10:49 PM

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QUOTE(prince_mk @ Sep 22 2016, 01:29 PM)
I have more in Ponzi2. How abt Titan?
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CIMB Global Titans?

If you look at the 10-year chart, it was under-water for the majority of the time. The average return for 10-year is 4.96%, if you hung on that long. And have the patience.

Given the risks (under-water for extended periods), it may not be a good fund to select. I am not going to suggest any "ratios", or any regular investment method because a bad fund is a bad fund.

If you look at the shorter term, like the 2015 performance, it has done really well. In 2016, it has been not well.

It could be a good fund if you review and re-balance regularly (exactly how often, it depends), but otherwise no.







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post Sep 26 2016, 01:17 AM

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Try getting the quoting right, especially when you quoting numerous people.
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post Sep 26 2016, 09:25 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Sep 26 2016, 05:49 PM)
I only rely information like Sharpe Ratio to differentiate between funds.
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I would like to recommend that one should never, ever rely on a single criteria.

What else one should look at, it depends. But definitely never "only rely" on one criteria.



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post Sep 26 2016, 09:59 PM

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QUOTE(AIYH @ Sep 26 2016, 09:30 PM)
That's why I like to hear from sifus' experience to improve judgement on evaluating funds  notworthy.gif
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I was afraid you might ask biggrin.gif , but since you did, here are what I look at in no particular order:
- the FSM list of recommended funds
- look at the performance charts. FSM allows you to overlap up to seven funds on the same chart. Include the funds you are interested in and see what you see. Look for funds that under/over-perform in comparison.
- look at performance rankings for the different timeframes, and compare them
- look at the ratios
- google search "economic outlook" and do some reading. I'm not saying I know, or agree, what it all means, but if you don't, find another one that you do.
- give preference to funds where the manager has greater flexibility to adjust between equities/fixed-income ratios.

Sorry, there are a few more "ifs" involved, and I can't give you a spreadsheet where you can just do one click and out comes the answer.

What I can say is I don't believe in DCA-only approach because if you DCA into a shit-fund, the returns will be shit.
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post Sep 28 2016, 11:30 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 28 2016, 06:49 PM)
Guys, sorry for disturbing again, few more questions.
1a) How come the value didn't come out?
1b) What amount is it showing?
2a) I started with RM3k, how come it showed only RM1k?
2b) Any idea to update/fixit?
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If you don't know what it means, don't worry about it. It was meant for the person who designed and programmed it, not you.

If you don't have basic spreadsheet/macro skills, asking questions like "How come the value didn't come out?" is unlikely to get you a reply that you can understand.

What the spreadsheet macro does is call a URL end-point of the fund code as a ? parameter. and parse the resultant HTML page and look for the current NAV, and update the spreadsheet cell.

Well, if you need more information, just ask the source you got the information from.

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post Sep 28 2016, 11:50 PM

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QUOTE(Ramjade @ Sep 28 2016, 11:40 PM)
Thanks. Got it.  notworthy.gif
Nevermind all the technical stuff. Asal can work and can get the results.  rclxms.gif

Anyway how I got it to work:
1) Delete everything except fund A cause I noticed if use fund B template, results won't show correctly.
2) Recopy back fund A, rename it to fund B and give it a test. Result shows exactly like how FSM shows it + IRR + ROI rclxm9.gif
3) Repeat the process for fund C  nod.gif flex.gif
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How or why not important then.

You got something that works for you, great.




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post Sep 29 2016, 09:20 PM

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QUOTE(xuzen @ Sep 29 2016, 02:59 PM)
To avoid this up and down, that is why smart investment person will try to match and pick asset / UTF that have low corr-coeff. So when one naik, the other one neither naik or turun or perhaps naik or turun a little bit. The end result is that your portfolio is stable and naik slow and steady and will not cause heart attack lor!
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"smart" isn't quite the right word.

Cautious, balanced, risk-adversed, stability-seeking, want-to-avoid-heart-attack... etc, yes.

Smart, dumb...etc, no

All to do with personal investment objectives, risk-tolerance, investment time-frames... etc.

If you are looking at maximizing returns over the long term, the correlated coefficient should not be in your list of things to worry about.



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post Sep 29 2016, 10:26 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Sep 29 2016, 10:10 PM)
correction. maximizing potential of returns would be making sure most of the funds aren't correlated. why buy the same funds when you should be investing in other funds.
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No, you aren't correcting anything when you don't even understand the point.

Aren't correlated means if one up, the other down, and vice versa.

Therefore, you are just averaging, not maximizing.



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post Sep 29 2016, 10:31 PM

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QUOTE(_azam13 @ Sep 29 2016, 10:27 PM)
actually, arent correlated means they dont affect/follow each other at all.. one up, the other could be up, down, or sideways...
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Yes, no problem. I was keeping it simple.

The main point is, you are not maximizing (or minimizing), because you are balancing because you are avoiding them all going in the same direction at the same time.

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post Oct 19 2016, 08:53 PM

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QUOTE(Vanguard 2015 @ Oct 19 2016, 07:13 PM)
I AM RICH. I AM RICH. DISTRIBUTION FROM RHB BOND FUND IS OUT.

I got RM1465.22.

MUAHAHAHA.  biggrin.gif
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Wah, you invested RM22.8k in RHB Bond, ah.. rclxms.gif


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