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brotan
post Sep 28 2016, 03:21 PM

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hi all,

long time i didn't come here

anyone knows what happened to rhb islamic bond fund? sudden drop of 3.8%
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:24 PM

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QUOTE(ROSS_Solar @ Sep 27 2016, 08:31 PM)
Yep... NAV price dropped to 1.3661 according to their website. WTF?
EDIT: ah damn, late September... distribution time biggrin.gif
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what a relief

normally fsm will give an icon on distribution fund but rhb tak da also?
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post Sep 28 2016, 03:30 PM

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QUOTE(Pink Spider @ Sep 28 2016, 03:25 PM)
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i normally see my account overview only lah
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post Sep 28 2016, 06:15 PM

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QUOTE(nexona88 @ Sep 28 2016, 04:15 PM)
wah so many funds in your list..

which one is top performer & lowest performer  hmm.gif
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best is KGF and RHB Islamic Bond
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post Sep 29 2016, 02:14 AM

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QUOTE(Kaka23 @ Sep 28 2016, 09:56 PM)
Why got 2 kgf?
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1 is epf. another own invest
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post Oct 20 2016, 03:39 PM

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nice that all my funds performing well recently after the scary drop earlier this year and late last year

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post Oct 20 2016, 04:43 PM

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QUOTE(puchongite @ Oct 20 2016, 04:23 PM)
Lucky you. Must be laughing all the way to the bank !
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err... not really that great lah. just better than before

nowadays i don't add new money into fsm anymore cuz got better return elsewhere

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post Oct 20 2016, 05:58 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2016, 05:12 PM)
oh yes care to share what returns can beat those of our awesome unit trusts
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i am trading forex myself, average 20% per month

Screen shot is my real acc for past 2.5 months

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post Oct 20 2016, 06:37 PM

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QUOTE(Ancient-XinG- @ Oct 20 2016, 06:33 PM)
Erm...

Then the 20% per months meaning 240% pa?
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Sort of
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post Oct 20 2016, 06:52 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2016, 06:31 PM)
lol when you win in forex most likely some poor sod lost his savings in forex.  nope
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Too bad lor

Anyway with ut same what. U win, somebody else must lose right?
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:03 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2016, 06:56 PM)
if you say so brother. I don't want to have that bad conscience on my shoulders because I really cannot imagine how one can make money out of exchanging two different  currencies.

unit trusts on the other hand pools a collection of funds from a group of people to be invested into sectors be it technology or real estate to generate growth. that's the definition.

http://thefirstmillionisthehardest.net/blo...-forex-trading/
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UT which is similar to stocks. You win in stock market somebody must lose. It is a zero sum game

So by right you should feel bad too making money from UT. Lol
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:05 PM

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QUOTE(vincabby @ Oct 20 2016, 07:02 PM)
why is a forex dude in a UT thread?
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Scroll up bro

I was just commenting I recently gain handsomely from Equity gain because of the UT I bought last time (which was losing at a point this year)

Then I was saying I didn't put in new money anymore in UT because I have better return investment and someone was asking what it iz

And that's where the forex topic came up
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:18 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 20 2016, 07:15 PM)
hmm.gif I am no stock knowledge person....but....
A buy at RM 1, sell at RM 1.5 ...EARN RM 0.50
B buy from A at RM 1.50...sell at RM 2.0, EARN RM 0.50

both earned nope?
the cycle can go round and round?
all can earn,....

it is when the time come to see who bought at the highest..... sweat.gif
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Stock will not go up forever right?
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:36 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 20 2016, 07:21 PM)
yes,...it is thus not as 1 win, the other lose.....
it could be many may win,...1 lose.
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Lol. Ok lah. You win. Haha
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post Oct 20 2016, 07:39 PM

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QUOTE(Avangelice @ Oct 20 2016, 07:27 PM)
stocks and uts allow investors to pool their buying power to invest in a country or company to allow it to eg

buy a machine if you invest in health care or start more projects to create more housing in REITs or maybe a new tech start up needs funds to manufacture a new gadget. 

no matter how much research on forex there's never a single definitive answer where does the money come from.
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Ok lah. Not going to argue on this. Kinda pointless

For me it is simple. As long as it can make money for me legally, I don't really care the things behind it
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post Oct 20 2016, 08:22 PM

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QUOTE(T231H @ Oct 20 2016, 07:39 PM)
it is you that WINS.... :thumbsup:
for you had found the winning formula while I am still lurking and "kay poh" here.
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You humble only. Hehe

Surely got a lot of Kang tao one
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post Oct 20 2016, 09:22 PM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 20 2016, 09:15 PM)
No.
Assuming nobody buy/sell after IPO. Stock price goes up 20%. Everyone gains.
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okok. i lose, you guys win

not gonna argue on this

to me it is simple as long as whatever i invest makes money legally, doesn't matter what investment it is, i will go for it

it is also cool if anyone feels it is morally wrong and not go into it

to each its own blush.gif

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post Oct 21 2016, 12:21 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 21 2016, 12:20 AM)
Let's consider a case with buy/sell...

A & B bought a stock at IPO price of 1.00.
A later sold the stock to C for 1.10.
The stock price dropped to 0.95. Panic of the drop, C 'cut loss' and sold the stock to D.
After the company reported good results, the stock price jumped to 1.20.

A - gain 0.10
B - gain 0.20
C - loss 0.15
D - gain 0.25
overall - gain 0.40
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then 1 year later company post losses, price drop to 0.8, how?
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post Oct 21 2016, 12:57 AM

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QUOTE(river.sand @ Oct 21 2016, 12:40 AM)
Overall is loss, but it's still not zero sum game. I never said it must be positive.
You google for historic price of Berkshire Hathaway. Don't say every thing which has gone up must come down. Yes, short term, this stock had ups and downs. But long term, it has been all the way up.
(This stock has never had split, so it's easy to see the point.)

Btw, ethical issue not withstanding, I am not against forex trading, so don't be too sensitive. My aunt's husband is a professional commodity trader, and he is very rich.
But, as a part timer and somewhat risk aversive, I will stick to the more passive way.

Gold is another issue...
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ask him become your sifu lah. hehe

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